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Old 11-10-2011, 02:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm reading this book, and there's an interesting quote in it I'd like to share with you.
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Dismissing addictions as "bad habits'' or "self-destructive behaviour" comfortably hides their functionality in the life of the addict.
Vincent Felitti , MD Physician and Researcher


What do you guys think?
I think it makes a lot of sense. I remember how good I feel even if I'm sober and it's first thing in the morning and I'm on my way to work but knowing that I have some shit at home whether it's dope or booze, but definitely makes the whole day go by smoother.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Spending your time looking forward to something at the end of the day is no way to live.



Cut that shit out of your life and learn to live in the moment bro.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i don't get it.
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comfortable hides their functionality in the life of the addict.
i assume its supposed to be "comfortably" but still im not understanding... does this mean that it's the addiction that gives functionality to the life of the addict? i just dont see how that works
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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but the question i have is.

how is anything a human does not an "addiction"

see people all the fucking time that need coffee in the morning. even like famous/successfull people.

see people all the time smoking cigarettes... i think people clearly say thats an addiction, but why is that ok?


some people like to gamble, or buy scratch off cards...

some people like to jog, and while they may have some good results, they may also aggravate their knees prematurely and suffer osteoarthritis sooner..

so what is an addiction?


an addiction is a human behavior that is repeated. ?? maybe??


physical addition is another story of course. but physical addiction doesnt mean the same thing, it means like your body requires a certain chemical to operate normally or psedo normally.... but then again, maybe by the repetative action that even has nothing to do with chemicals or taking substances, maybe even those cause your body to release chemicals internally , so they can be thought of as chemical dependancies too.


so do athletes have a chemical dependancy on endorphins?
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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an addiction is a human behavior that is repeated.

Your incorrect definition of addiction is what's causing the logistical anguish on this matter.
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well please clarify for me, the logical anguish is CRUSHING!!!
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i don't get it.

i assume its supposed to be "comfortably" but still im not understanding... does this mean that it's the addiction that gives functionality to the life of the addict? i just dont see how that works
it was comfortably
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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an addiction is a human behavior that is repeated.
like jfk trolling with dumb shit.

his definition of addiction is more than a bit oversimplified.

anything that you are compelled to do in disregard of it's negative consequences could be considered addictive behavior.

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so everyone is an addict, since we all must shit on a daily basis ?
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"so everyone is an addict, since we all must shit on a daily basis ? " well thats basically my question/observation

this is supposed to be "higher thoughts " so care to answer the question? nowhere did i act like i was speaking authoritatively on the subject, but i guess its just easier to refuse to answer questions asked. i cant tell if roach thought that because hes an old fuddyduddy or because of something i said, so is anybody going to answer the ops questions?

as to your definition roach...see my original post for various observations/questions on that very comment.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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it's an individual thing. I knew a guy, had a serious opioid script. He used, and abused that shit, personally, never calling it in early, etc. Had to suffer when the time came to kick/taper, but he did it, he made it work. I will admit, i kind of lost touch, and don't know the end of this story, but it wouldn't surprise me if dude still had the same script he's been getting all these years, two weeks on, two weeks off.

Then there are people like me. I looked to abuse, to the american maxx, every drug i used to get my hands on. For a long time my outlook was that I was only living 'till thirty, and didn't need to take care of my body. So i didn't, and suffered for it.

But now i take care of myself, and try to make choices about the drugs i use that seem responsible. I was taking kava every day for a week or so. That was getting out of hand. Took a day off, had a couple cups yesterday, taking tonight off.

I feel okay about this. I set out eighty bucks every two weeks I get to 'have fun with' and my kava took up over half that. That's a lot, but i'm not going to be emptying my bank account in three days to get another tub of kava.

It's all individual.

I won't go as far as saying i think there are a lot of people who can use illicit opiods without such consequences. Power to those who can.

But people ingest drugs, always have, probably always will. when there are no drugs, they'll spin around, or lock themselves in white, soundproofed rooms until they hallucinate living tapestries on the walls. people like to get altered, in fashions sacramental and routine, Nothing wrong with coming home to something you enjoy.

Living your life chained to a substance, a thing, a person-or idea-(nouns, i guess), is no way to live.

Big difference.

I look forward to having drugs at the end of the day the same way i look forward to having a warm meal, a bed, perhaps a book. these things are not necessary, but they make life nicer.

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Old 11-10-2011, 05:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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lol wtf JFK I can't tell if you're trolling or what
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