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Old 11-29-2014, 04:52 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Your sig sucks and is incredibly dismissive and generally ignorant.

With that same logic, someone in the 60s could have said the exact same thing about black protesters, and likely did.
Even though they suffered from oppression and segregation then (undeniable), american blacks still had more much freedom and oppurtunity than their grandparents or parents (slaves) as well as more than many people in third world countries had.

They were dismissed by the same logic you present, yet anyone with half a brain could still see that things were far from fair and just, and that change was needed.
The same holds true for right now.

To dimiss it as 'playing the victim card' or whatever is just rediculous and you are retarded for believing it.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:05 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Umm, the quote is referring to the "special snowflake tumbleristas" out there who do believe they are just as oppressed as old slaves while being middle class white children due to gender issues or other whiny made up bullshit like wolfkin and being a furry. As well as dumb shit like cultural appropriation. Who gives a flying shit what some lady is doing on a yoga mat in LA in reference to a yogi master? who really gives a fuck AND thinks its justified for them to be worried about such petty social grievances and act like they're being oppressed.

Now that ive explained that the post is referring to, do you still feel this way?

You obviously misunderstood and went on some rant about black people that isnt in any way connected to what my signature is suggesting. Its ok man, ive done it too, you might wanna chill out a little though.

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Take a stroll around there and then you'll get why I hate "social justice" and other such nonsense.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:45 PM   #43 (permalink)
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i guess it is a misunderstanding, but a vague quote that easily could be directed at young blacks in general, especially due to the timing of things, is more often than not going to be interpreted the way i did.

But i retract my calling you retarded and will chill out and smoke some weed.

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Old 12-02-2014, 11:02 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I haven't any strong opinions on this topic

Reason being...
Should Asians be the only students allowed to learn & practice martial arts? Anyone else that aspires to learn tae kwon do is a culture vulture? Should one be Japanese to make origami without it being inappropriate/insensitive?

(I disagree with that rationale)

At the same time, I completely understand why it's considered disrespectful when blonde haired white hipster/hipple chicks wear fashion statement bindis on their foreheads(or costumey warbonnets)and why it's offensive if non-blacks go out in Mammy/Sambo-style blackface--obviously way out of line in most any imaginable context.

But barring all outsiders from, say, eating traditional foods from the culture in question, or taking sport/dance/language courses geared at activities originating from or synonymous with cultures other than their own?

Personally, I see no benefit in preventing others from experiencing any of those things. Culture doesn't have to be 100% exclusive in order to remain sacred, authentic, distinct etc etc
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I completely understand why it's considered disrespectful when blonde haired white hipster/hipple chicks wear fashion statement bindis on their foreheads(or costumey warbonnets)
why? it might be distasteful, but its not for anybody to say its disrespectful, fashion is fashion and people can wear what they want. Or are we telling people what they can and can't wear now, I thought that wasn't "feminist"?

It is in no way close to blackface which was created out of hate for a race, not an interest in a cultures fashion choices.

Girl with bad fashion choices working a yoga studio =/= white club owner who wants to exploit black culture but not pay/hire them so he hires white people to mock them with exaggerated makeup.

If we wanted to make your statement true, she would have to have an influx of people from that culture in her city wanting to work but not being able to because there are laws against it and people would absolutely riot of they knew they were paying to see a, what they considered to be sub-human, performer(as what the case with blackface).
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why? it might be distasteful, but its not for anybody to say its disrespectful, fashion is fashion and people can wear what they want. Or are we telling people what they can and can't wear now, I thought that wasn't "feminist"?
Reaching. FAR. No one said, not even once, that it shouldn't even be an option to begin with.

Also, I'd argue tastelessness & disrespect tend to overlap. Nothing & nobody is above reproach IMO.
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:12 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Spoken like a true cultureless white guy.

Some people like where they came from, and not have it corrupted in their face on a daily basis.

You have a right to your feelings and they aren't wrong. Do you even practice yoga in a spiritual context though? If you dont, these feelings hold a lot less merit. It's like some Italian guy who doesn't go to church getting upset at someone in India taking the Lord's name in vain.

It's not as if these skinny white girls are claiming to do yoga for spirituality. They just want their ass to look good. Sorry if that offends your cultural sensibilities but frankly that's your problem not theirs.

No one is getting hurt here. All that's being affected are cultural boundaries which are going to completely disappear eventually anyway.
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I'm a straight, white midwestern American. If i didn't appropriate other cultures I wouldn't have any.
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That redskins stuff is fucked up though. Wouldn't have a team called the chicago spades would you?

Kansas City Chiefs are OK though imo. It's still appropriation but it isn't derogatory.
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I'm a straight, white midwestern American. If i didn't appropriate other cultures I wouldn't have any.
This is basically what the white males in this thread are saying.

That's your problem, not mine.
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thats because we were born white males into a relatively new culture which has only been around a few hundred years and doesnt have the corresponding traditions as compared to other cultures which have been around for thousands and thousands of years. thats not a problem thats just the state of the world. america is the cultural melting pot as they say.

this is like the dumb gay marriage debate. people who engage in heterosexual marriage are worried that gay people getting married will corrupt their own marriage somehow.

if you are a person who is into the spiritual aspect of this practice, skinny white girls appropriating your cultural practice for a different use doesnt affect you AT ALL.

you literally have nothing to get mad about besides the "corruption" of your tradition. you get to continue having your tradition and engaging it in the way you want, and these people get to take your tradition and use it in the way they want.

what a bullshit excuse to be offended. i mean seriously. find some real problems if thats what is on your list of shit to be worried about.
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I disagree.

White culture is the most historically accounted for. I'm sure many of you can trace your own descendants culture and derive meaning from it.

The gay marriage argument makes no sense to me. I AM living with it, it's not like I bitch about it with out being asked, as has the people of color responding to the op's link.

Lol, Indian culture is getting along just fine without this form of yoga, but this form of yoga really isn't yoga, which is what most people who don't know yoga ate being exposed to thinking this is the genuine spiritual practice when it is only a feel good fitness regime.
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Yeah, no kidding!

May I ask whom is it you speak of that is bringing in other traditions to your land? Those from different localities, or authorities?

Also, is there any sort of general consensus within your community about how to go about revitalizing culture?
ppl come from other areas and try to bring their ways which have confused/distorted the way in this land

consensus...LOLOLOL...the trick is to keep your eye on the right circle and give them all you've got!!!
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This is basically what the white males in this thread are saying.

That's your problem, not mine.
The bolded portion sums up most folks' outlook of established large-scale issues or conflicts that have been acknowledged at length by others. Yet if it doesn't directly impact them, people figure, why the fuck is THAT worth a second thought?

To which I'd inquire;
would you* rather be stuck on an island with a bunch of people that can't be bothered addressing persistent problems in their community...until or unless the issues start hitting home & affecting them personally?

or, would you rather be stranded on that proverbial island surrounded by a group that's collectively willing to address disagreements early on & if need be, forge solutions before the conflict or disparity reaches monstrous proportions--ultimately compromising the whole community's rights, safety & overall well-being?

*the "royal you", not addressing anyone in particular.
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Now, I'm not directly applying the above to Yoga per se, being that I can't say for sure whether the practice is exclusively a hit with white yuppies trying to chase the hottest fitness trend.


Purely anecdotal; but I used to work near a wildly popular yoga studio. At face-value, there was NO shortage of East Asian, Latina, black & white patrons in and out of the building during hours of operation(the vast majority were women, though). Not sure it'd be fair to conclude that the bulk of the local studio's client base lacked distinguishable cultures to rightfully claim as their own; thus they relied on weekly yoga courses in order to help pass themselves off as "cultured".
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Look, i understand in an ideal world, ideas travel willingly.

The problem is what the OP's author is talking about.

She was a certified teacher of something she wholly admits she really had no idea about for ten years. She admits to spreading ignorance, which led to her writing this whole schpeel to begin with.
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This is basically what the white males in this thread are saying.

That's your problem, not mine.
That's fine, I don't need your approval

If you want to get offended over it, well that's your problem, not mine.
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