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Old 11-01-2015, 11:18 AM   #61 (permalink)
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And even if you do manage to swallow it, it's even less likely to result in action. For most it turns into a ball of cynicism that weighs down on the heart.
Definitely possible.

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Because what it would actually take to stop oppression..
Like any of life's hard feelings, setting obtainable goals helps.

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I'm not even sure if it's physically possible. Oppression might be a highly abstracted example of an actual physical truth. I really don't know.
Change begins with you and I.


It can start in really simple ways.


When I lived in Canada I meant a lot of people who liked to bring up 'No good, drunk, Indians'.


When I actually started to talk with people about Residential Schools,
and what generations of taking away people's culture can do to people....

Without getting into heady things like Cultural Continuity.....


Folks, in my experience, were far more likely to soften up a bit,
and start to see a bigger picture, and people's humanity....

Especially their own humanity, as they slowly and subtly question the story they've been told.

If we all changed our story just a bit, a lot of change could happen.

Does that make sense?


I think it'd be akin to something like counting your blessings, what you do have each day,
instead of reflecting on all the things you feel like to need to for it all to be perfect.

Again.... changing the story of what we're told makes us who we are.
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:38 PM   #62 (permalink)
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tyrannical apathy
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prosperity gospel
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Well in all cases it's the oppressor who benefits of course.

Your average man isn't the oppressor though. He's just another person caught up in all the confusion.
Yet a lot of outspoken feminists (not the majority of feminists) convey an attitude contrary to this, and it's the voices of those people that end up reaching the most ears. We hear: men are the oppressors. NO. The oppressors are men and they favour men. But men are not the oppressors. The oppressors could be women, and still, women would not be the oppressors. The oppressors could be lizards! But I'm not gonna blame my iguana and tell it that it needs to join me in the fight against oppressive lizards otherwise it's complicit in their reptilian evil empire.

Your average guy is just trying to make his way though life, and having some stranger harp on him because he's an oppressive male and needs to unite under the feminist banner is just plain counterproductive.
Hey Sir. Just wanted to say

You bring up some great points here. We all are continuously learning, which I think is a great thing when a society analyzes itself.
I think a lot of problems stem from people making their minds up too quickly, looking from whatever angle. Temperance in perspectives could do us a lot of good, especially when one considers we're always evolving.

Often people speak from a place of emotion rather than knowledge, and that can also pose problems. Sometimes it can be helpful to listen to the emotion, and ask why. Other times it can be wise to simply see that the individual is emotional. The knowledge certainly does go beyond "all men suck." A big wish of mine is that conversations would more easily move to the point where people could address the actual theories.
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:37 AM   #67 (permalink)
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YaHooka's first thread about feminism that didn't go to shit. Congrats.
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He refers to Christina Hoff Summers debunking of the wage gap myth.
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I took a look at her wiki page.

she "(argues) that modern feminist thought often contains ... an inability to take seriously the possibility that the sexes are equal but different"



I agree and this is probably the biggest thing that annoys me. People that say that we're all the same. That distinctions between are just societal lies of some kind. Dumbfuckingdumbohmyg odyouresodumb (directed @ those who think this)
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To clarify, I that isn't to say I don't think that there aren't societal lies, but I think strongly that there are differences between men and women (obviously beyond our bodies), and that lot of our behavior stems from biological truths about us. These differences are significant enough that they can't be supplanted for wishful thinking that all the things we dislike can be explained by poor ideologies.
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Which still boils down to hersay from a journalistic perspective.

Christina Hoff Summers is known for not having the best reputation, people have exposed how she is being financially supplemented for her sentiments by some pretty big corps.
https://sinmantyx.wordpress.com/2014...-hoff-sommers/

On the myth of the wage gap myth:
Gender pay gap - RationalWiki
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Not really trying to argue about anything right now, just saying what I thought after reading her wiki page
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Sorry, not you Sir. I was referring to Sommers.
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