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Old 11-04-2004, 03:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I will now make a post defining Ego

Inspired by another thread regarding ego, I feel it is my duty to shed some light on the topic.


Ego is the false self. Ego is part of Maya (illusion), according to Hindus.

According to Christianity, Ego is Satan.





Imagine disappearing. All your patterns, all your beliefs, all your thoughts, all your memories, gone. Imagine your physical body disappearing. Gone. Your mental body, gone. Everything about you , gone. As if a mathematical formula has just been solved, you have completely dissolved.

What would be left? That is the purpose of meditation. To dissolve all the layers of ignorance, and ego built upon your True Self.

What do you have left when everything is gone? Pure, blissful awareness. God-realization.


In Hinduism, In yoga, and in the teachings of our World Teacher Jesus Christ.....God-Realization and Self-realization are the exact same thing. Why? Because without ANYTHING ELSE, we are pure sparks of God. That is our true nature, and when we are ready to receive the reality of our true nature, it is our divine inheritance.




So ego is everything false about you. Everything self-created.


Now, do not believe for a second that character is ego. Character is the opposite of ego. Wonderfully put, character can be described in this way.

Intent Leads to Thought
Thought leads to Action
Action leads to Habit
Habit becomes Character


So, in a sense, character is the habits we have built for ourselves. This is entirely different then Ego. Ego is the front, the false us...character is just the patterns built on top of us, giving us a unique identity.



Thats why Karma Yoga is possible. Karma Yoga is doing selfless work, without attachments to the fruits. Eventually, one is supposed to become completely selfless, thus attaining God-realization.

That is why Meditation works. One unravels all layers of Ignorance, piercing though each layer, one by one. Finally, one breaks all false layers, and reaches God-Realization.

Same with Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga , I'd imagine.




Ego is such an important lesson during our time. In fact, until humanity conquers ego, we cannot live in a world of peace.

Until Satan (ego) is flushed from our planet, we shall not see Heaven on Earth.
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Ego is all material, Earthly attatchments/desires. It's not a bad thing if you work with it (meaning, realize what it is, what it does, and how it affects you on a day to day basis) but most don't, so it consumes them and completely shadows their true spirit.
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Inspired by another thread regarding ego, I feel it is my duty to shed some light on the topic.


Ego is the false self. Ego is part of Maya (illusion), according to Hindus.

According to Christianity, Ego is Satan.





Imagine disappearing. All your patterns, all your beliefs, all your thoughts, all your memories, gone. Imagine your physical body disappearing. Gone. Your mental body, gone. Everything about you , gone. As if a mathematical formula has just been solved, you have completely dissolved.

What would be left? That is the purpose of meditation. To dissolve all the layers of ignorance, and ego built upon your True Self.

What do you have left when everything is gone? Pure, blissful awareness. God-realization.


In Hinduism, In yoga, and in the teachings of our World Teacher Jesus Christ.....God-Realization and Self-realization are the exact same thing. Why? Because without ANYTHING ELSE, we are pure sparks of God. That is our true nature, and when we are ready to receive the reality of our true nature, it is our divine inheritance.




So ego is everything false about you. Everything self-created.


Now, do not believe for a second that character is ego. Character is the opposite of ego. Wonderfully put, character can be described in this way.

Intent Leads to Thought
Thought leads to Action
Action leads to Habit
Habit becomes Character


So, in a sense, character is the habits we have built for ourselves. This is entirely different then Ego. Ego is the front, the false us...character is just the patterns built on top of us, giving us a unique identity.



Thats why Karma Yoga is possible. Karma Yoga is doing selfless work, without attachments to the fruits. Eventually, one is supposed to become completely selfless, thus attaining God-realization.

That is why Meditation works. One unravels all layers of Ignorance, piercing though each layer, one by one. Finally, one breaks all false layers, and reaches God-Realization.

Same with Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga , I'd imagine.




Ego is such an important lesson during our time. In fact, until humanity conquers ego, we cannot live in a world of peace.

Until Satan (ego) is flushed from our planet, we shall not see Heaven on Earth.
Did you write that? It's very clear and precise.
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How do you think the Ego was created?
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Yes, I wrote that really quickly , I actually didn't explain Ego as much as I'd like to, and what it really is, but I touched on the subject in a way I was hoping would be pretty easy to understand for everyone, I know when I read things I dont want them to be all technical and boring, rather to the point. Thanks





Well, scripturally, according to Christianity, Ego on this planet would have evolved as part of Calastigia's revolt against God.

Lucifer, being at the top of the chain I believe, would have altered the natural evolution of Humanity on our planet with his own intentions, thus causing the downfall of man.

Actually, the story of Lucifier is rather brilliant. A very high, respected, loved, intelligent, and beautiful angel, one of the MOST intelligent of all angels, starts to question God's existance himself, and declares that he himself has reached perfection, and is capable of running the UNiverse himself, in a better way.

So, that is egotism in its purest form, which is selfishness. Instead of having faith and trusting in the natural order of things, he lost his faith, and became selfish, and wanted things to be in his own order (regardless or not of wether his will was Evil or Good, thats not the point).





To be honest though, I'd have to say egotism is probably created from Desire and Attachment.


I think ego is a natural product of Human Creation to be honest, but I could be wrong.


Either way, its our duty to recognize ego. Not conquer it, kill it, or point it out in other people, but rather to observe the Ego in ourselves. Awareness itself is the greatest tool of self-transformation. Once we are aware of our Ego, to the full extent of how it influences and traps and confuses us, do you not believe that it can no longer control us to the extent it had before?
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So how do we find our true ego? What if we don't like our true ego.
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Try sitting down in some quiet and thinking about who you are.
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God told me what a fuckin' bitch it is to be omnipotent. Boring....Boring...

Ego fulfills a false dimentional restriction in order to pretend we don't know this shit already. Think of our race as the video games for the gods.

Be creative.
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Supermarket:

How do you think the Ego was created?
Not directed to me, but I'll give my thoughts.


Ego is created to meld with the masses and fit into whatever society we live in. Our ego is created from the culture and beleifs of our society. Its a projection of who we are, but tuned in a way that will appeal to others.

The fact that humans are a social being is what created it, as being accepted and admired by others is wht leads one to power and acceptance - the two things that are most sought after by most humans.

I can see where Super is coming from when he says that it is the ego is the cause of wars and conflict. The funny thing is that if the world had a unified cause, wouldn't ego remain the same? ie: the ego could evolve to fit with a peaceful and unified society, with self serving goals being unacceptable. If greed and desire are so hard wired into our brains (and souls?) a civilization that was against these feelings could bring peace, and people who felt greed and desire would be outcasts.

Funny how it doesn't work that way though. In a society of peaceful and genourous people, the ones who are filled with greed and desire always seem to come to power. The people who are in power dictate what society should be, and thus create the ego.

So a society free of ego, must also be free of leaders, as one would have no desire to lead if the ego was not there.

This of course is Anarchy, and I truly believe, at this point in time at least, that it cannot be sustained. Humanity has not yet reached the point where it can survive without leadership and control.
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I think we need to upgrade our government to a dual governance and downgrade the amount of power each have. So instead of having one government with 2 parties ruling to govern the people, there would be 2 governments trying to free the people. And divide the ego so it's mode of control is opposing instead of inherent.
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I think we need to upgrade our government to a dual governance and downgrade the amount of power each have. So instead of having one government with 2 parties ruling to govern the people, there would be 2 governments trying to free the people. And divide the ego so it's mode of control is opposing instead of inherent.
Welcome to a Candian minority government.

Good in a sense that all parties have a say, but bad in the sense that often, fuck all ever gets done.

For now though, I'm glad that fuck all is geeting done, I like things the way they are.



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the ego cannot be eliminated, it is what makes you individual. Examine and study the self the ego, show it the beauty of your intellect, show it the potential, convince it to develop, show it all the choices, teach it to choose
consciously, convince it that your choice makes all the difference, then teach it to choose love. You have to find all the motivation from WITHIN.

Loving yourself is not a matter of building your ego. Egotism is proving you are worthwhile after you have sunk into hating yourself. Loving yourself will dissolve your ego: you will feel no need to prove you are superior.
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to me, ego is ones sense of self worth. i think it comes from insecurities, the need to be needed, or appreciated. it grows when we accomplish something, when we do something of significance.
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Thank God the world now has one meaning for the word "ego"
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