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I have just been blessed with an understanding of a teaching of Christ, which many have failed to see.


When his discple-brothers asked him, "lord Jesus, for what shall we put into our bodies that we may remain blessed and whole?"

And jesus said "be not concerned with what goes into the mouth; Be rather concerned with the words that spill forth from thy mouth, for the latter has more effect upon man"


These are the words re-written by me, but the teaching is the same.




Many people thought this meant that you can hurt others with your words (VERY true), and this is the teaching of that verse (false)


The correct teaching is that you hurt YOURSELF.



The Spoken Word, prior to the times we live in now....was once considered sacred, or holy.


All the verbal affirmations, sounds, recitations, and noises that came from each others mouths were important, unlike today.


When you speak, you are using your Will to create sound vibrations, which will deeply effect yourself and others.



How often do you speak during the day?

How many, out of all the words you said today, were said with a sense of love and peace?


How many words did you say today that carried anger, confusion, or desiire with them?




What you say truly does become you, because you are creating waves of emotion and feeling, and spreading thrme to your whole body, and that of others.

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deadhead94

what a great and insightful response....

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Woods

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effervescence

ahh i would read it, but sometimes reading stuff takes too long

i will later i swear

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Geeno

I read it at Shroomery. I like it. We should talk sometime about certain pending events.

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paintballads

i would love to comment on this, but can't find the actual quote anywhere. can you give me a link or at least tell me which scripture it is?

the teachings of jesus are very open to interpretatio, which is why we have so many denominations of christians.

this quote is great because it also seems to hint towards not judging others for what they put into their mouth, but rather what comes out of it. communication is amazing and i can't even comprehend how we were able to create a spoken language. some african cultures can speak to each other via drum beats, much like morse code i would imagine.

i would say from what i read above that this teaching is about intelligence and understanding. to use your ability to speak to better mankind and to less thing about yourself and concentrate more on others. the brothers asked what they can consume to make them whole, and jesus said to instead worry about how they can make others whole and blessed by their own words.

ill put serious input in if i can get an actual text of the above quote.

Geeno

A friend and I have a developing beat-box language.

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SweetSativa

I think that it is beautiful to find others who read the way that I do. All interpretations have their place... religion has had it's place in the evolution of man but we no longer need it now. A quote from a traditional christian bible, "That which you do unto the least of my brothers, also you do unto me." <--- another that I think that many misunderstand... well, from my perspective and what I have found inside of myself... a reason for all interpretations, which is why it was put as such. It will help a person who takes it to heart no matter which level of interpretation is held. The day of judgement is at hand, the spirit of Christ is open to purify. Great spiritual teachers encourage the students to find for themselves through prayer or meditation, through life... they do not give another strict boundaries of what is 'good' and what is 'evil'... this keeps people imprisoned within themselves... ashamed, just as when Adam and Eve committed the original sin and became ashamed and conflicted within themselves... and therefore within their world. All Paths lead to the core:

"Your religious calling was written on plates of stone
By the flaming finger of an angry God.
Our religion was established by the traditions of our Ancestors.
The dreams of our Elders that
Are given to them in the silent hours of night by
The Great Spirit.
And the premonitions of the Learned Beings.
It is written in the hearts of our people, THUS.
We do not require churches-which would only lead us to
argue about God. We do not wish this.
Earthly things may be argued about by men, but we never
argue over God.
And the thought that white men should rule over nature and
change its ways following his liking was never understood by
The Red man.
Our belief is that the Great Spirit has created all things.
Not just mankind, but all animals, all plants, all rocks...
All on earth and amongst the stars, with true Soul.
For us All, life is Holy.
But, you do not understand our prayers when we address the
Sun, Moon and Winds.
You have judged us without understanding.
Only because our prayers are different.
But we are able to live in Harmony with all of Nature.
All of Nature is within us and we are part of all Nature.

Chief White Cloud "

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Canuck Wisdom

I am inclined to agree.

The way I understand it is that ultimatly everything we do is reflected upon our well being. If we sin, it hurts us inside, and removes us from the kingdom of heaven, whether we believe/feel that way or not.

If we live without sin we will see the face of God revealed.

Many people say they think logically and see benefits to some sin, and might find themselves in a situation where they could sin with no one knowing about it, and all they see are benefits for themselves. My belief is that ultimately, as God sees all, it is not to your benefit.

People absorbed in sin, concentrate on gaining material wealth/value, rather then wealth in the sight of God (preparing for the harvest), which is to your benefit moreso then any material thing you could have, do not understand such teachings. They find situations where they can argue about justification, but there is none.

Blessedness is attained only though peace inside. Remember, we all live in subjective worlds. If you continue to sin you will slip into death, still alive physically, but there is no life in you. Fortunately the Lord will always forgive you.

Free from sin means your free of worry, regret and other such ill effects. People say these things are culturally based, I disagree, on your soul these things are imprinted as sin, despite who you are. If your free of mental and spiritual turmoil, you are more clear, happier, smarter, more charismatic and free.

Its like... 'why not fight/kill this person, I know I can win and I will gain fame among these people I am surrounded by who value such things.' But ultimatly you are doing yourself harm, because between you and God you have killed/harmed another and this inhibits you from true happiness and good living.

Many choose not to believe such things, I think it is their failing.


and as for speech, well. Everything we say is forever imprinted on the souls of those who hear it. use your words to form love and happiness.

There is an offensive and a defensive side to unconditional love.

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funky_unkle

This makes me think of something I percieve to be a great spiritual (and practial) principle: the power of words.
The Bible says elsewhere "as a man thinks in his heart, so he is." God creates by speaking. We defile or purify ourselves by the words we speak. The believer is encouraged to testify, confess, speak forth in faith, witness.

I think it's self-evident. Try saying only positive things to yourself one day and see how much better you'll feel and do.

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Some other things from Christianity that I have interpretted differently:



"Lord, Why hast thou forsaken me?", said jesus on the cross.


For YEARS, I could not understand this. It makes no sense, I thought. Why would jesus think god abandoned him, left him for dead? He is , afterall, Jesus...world teacher, lover of all things, divine healer, and man of Christ consciousness.


Until one day i read something that made much sense.


At the time of death, jesus "lost" his connection with the divine....meaning he was no longer in direct connection with god, but up until that moment he had ALWAYS been (or atleast he was when he become christed).

He was ALWAYS connected with our divine spirit Father, and at the time of his death, he was losing consciousness I believe, and He lost touch with the divine.


This happened because
1) He was meant to die as a normal human, without any security from God or above, to set an example for man.

2) At the time of death, even great gurus, sages, and enlightened man have some fear/hesitance of death. Its our nature to fear death.

Canuck Wisdom

I too have pondered this. Your answers make sense.


I think the reason he would cry out would be more caused by 1) but both would aply. Jesus was human, thats what made him special, so like all humans he had to die like that. He had to decend into hell and do 'battle' with the devil before he could come back. And he had to do it alone.

Mind over matter in the ultimate form, ressurection?

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Ego Tripping

Thank you Dana, I've wondered that exact same question ever since I started this journey almost 4 years ago. That does make sense.

I think it's to prove that Jesus was still, just a Man. Albeit, a Man who was fully realized and an advanced Soul, but still a Man, still subjected to the same pain and suffering that any other human body would be subjected to.

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funky_unkle

He said "God, why have you forsaken me?" so that we would never have to.

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A communist officer told a Christian he was beating, "I am almighty, as you suppose your God to be. I can kill you."
The Christian answered, "The power is all on my side. I can love you while you torture me to death."

Ego Tripping

^ Good point...because did not Forsake him in any way...He was simply letting Humans have their use of their Free Will, even if that meant the Death and Suffering of his only (first) Son.

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Canuck Wisdom

Paved the way right through to death and even back! Lucky us.

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