Zeta-burn

I have formulated a theory of the universe. it is in total agreeance with quantum mechanics general relativity string theory and supergravity. in basic it states that our universe, so to speak, is 3 different 'plates' that are our space in 3 different time zones, all linked by wormholes, and it is twisted in 11D. its hard to grasp at first, but once you understand it it relatively simple. when i can im gonna get a web page up about it. i have a notebook where i have written down all the pics and explanations behind it. What i like about it is that it can link science and spirituality as well as explain many to date 'unexplained phenomena', without introducing any insane concepts or ridiculously far fetched ideas. For now im not gonna say too much else about this theory till i can get a page up about it. i dont want my material to fall into the wrong hands alrite peace out for now. i gots lotta work 2 do :P

snapshot

Wow, you should write a book. You make it so simple.

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Ego Tripping

Personally, I think any attempt to explain the workings of this Infinite force is futile, you're always going to arrive at smaller, more segregated wholes, not actually 'parts' that can make the mechanics of something as great as the Universe. Size is trivial and all matter is a function of another. Everything is 1 and any laws trying to explain 1 would be impossible to convey with words or theory.

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DrugsBunny

did anyone else ever wonder what would happen if you would just keep going deeper into space? after you pass up all of the other galaxies, where would you go?

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snapshot

I dunno where I would go I sure as hell would need a spliff.

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Zeta-burn

i was actually thinking about writing a book. but id rather make a web page :P

Hedons

Interesting idea!

What are the major differences between your hypothesis and theEkpyrotic Universe theory?

-Hedons

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Zeta-burn

that theory has only 2 plates. that theory is also not new, it spawned outta the string theory. it is similiar to mine, but the differences are drastic. my universe has 5 dimensions, but due to the way our plate is linked to the other 2, it would appear theres 11. im workin on gettin a web page put up to explain in full detail. my universe also works with mergin with paralell universes, time travel(not the kind youre used to) and all other sorts of cool stuff, like why you have deja vu, and esp... and yes, we can never have a theory that explains all the stuff about our universe. check up on your quantum mechanics. we cant know everything. its impossible... there are limits to our knowledge.

HunterThompson

So what do you suggest? That we all stare at our navels and chant Ommm?

To whoever asked about flying past the galaxies: We don't really know, but spacetime is curved, and some physicists believe it curves back on itself, so you may arrive back where you started. If the universe is curved like a mobius strip, you could arrive back here, but you would be reversed!

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Nihilists, huh? Fuck me.
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sherlockholmes

The problem here is that you assume the universe is an infinite force, and there simply is no evidence to suggest that it is. I mean, it is really, really, really, really, really big, and we don't really understand it at all, but we must try. If we don't try to explain the universe, our current understanding will never get any better, and if we all give up we leave nothing behind when we die.

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Ego Tripping

Now that you mention it...I think I've learned more just through meditation and contemplation than what I've actually read. Experience is a much better teacher than a textbook or mathematical formula.

Isn't that the essence of Infinity? Always leaving, always coming back, hence, neverending.

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Ego Tripping

Granted, but more suggesting is it than it isn't. We can't even find the smallest constituent of any particle of matter. We don't even fully know what matter IS. We haven't the slightest clue at what light is and it's the most abundant force in existance (and in some views, the only, everything else is just a side-product of Light).

I absolutely agree...I just think we're going about it the wrong way. The Mayans seemed to know just as much as we do about Astronomy yet they never utilized a Telescope. The Tao explains almost identically what Quantum Physics has, but they never had to build a 3 mile long particle accellerator. Both actually just 'stared at their navals and said "AUM."

It's like, just because we obtain our information through big expensive machines and complex computations, that makes us the most informed. To me, it makes us extremely ignorant. Science doesn't desire to account for Experience. If it cannot be explained with Math or Theory (and tested), then it's not Science and not considered. Yet words and mathematics are just our best attempts at conveying any experience...words and math were created to convey an experience to begin with. Science has removed what they should have considering what Science is supposed to study....but they also removed the other 50% of what makes Life, Life. We need to reach a merger, but thankfully I see that day approaching faster than I thought.

Just remember, we're not learning anything new at all. Almost everthing we know, we've known in History but have forgot and just re-discovering it all over again. History repeats for a reason.

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effervescence

Mannn..when are you all gonna learn..

there is no "universe"! it's all in your head! obviously. If you can't experience it outside of your consciousness then it's obbbbbbvvvviously not real. All your theories are just that: Theories.

now stop thinking and smoke a jay bOOOyyyyy

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HunterThompson

I have to strongly disagree with several things you've said. First, Science doesn't desire to account for experience? What are you smoking (nevermind, I know exactly what you're smoking - it's what I wish I was smoking right now)? Science is based on experience. Empirical (read experiencal) evidence is the cornerstone of verifiable scientific claims. Science says that any theory running counter to experience must be false.

secondly, the mayans did not know nearly as much about astronomy as we (or modern day mayans - mexicans) do. They did have an extremely intricat calender that tracked complex astronomical phenomenon such as eclipses, but there's no evidence they knew about Quasars, black holes, curved space-time, or anything like that. What they knew is amazing, but they didn't know as much as us.

Yes, the Tao has passages concerning unknowability and such that are conceptually similar to quantum mechanics, but they are not the same. Quantum Mechanics allows you to construct models and equations that give probabilities over four-dimensional space-time of finding a giving particle - that's different than saying you can't know everything.

I agree that spirituality and the study of our own conciousness is both old and important, and that in those cases the wisdom of the ancients is quite illuminative. That doesn't mean science means nothing. History repeats itself in some ways, not in others; in any case, it's all about interpretation.

The saying "there's nothing new under the sun" has some instructive wisdom, but it's not true.

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Nihilists, huh? Fuck me.
I mean, say what you want about the tenents of national socialism dude, at least it's an ethos!

Ego Tripping

Near Death Experiences are not supported by the Scientific Community to be 'real experiences' but rather a figment of the imagination or Brain recieving lack of oxygen. Since they cannot replicate what the person sees, they say it's not true. Why is this, if Science is based off experiences and these people experienced something?

And where has our information got us? What is true knowledge? Sure, we think we know how things work, but all we did was use intense technology to observe. We've found next to nothing that has actually improved the Human Race. At least they obtained something as useful as a Calender that is still accurate even today.

Just different words trying to describe something formless and without description. Read the Tao Of Physics by Fritoj Capra if you want a mind-bend on how similiar the two studies actually are.

I totally agree...

"Science without Religion is Lame, Religion without Science is Blind." - Einstein

How so? Once again, what NEW information have we found out if we already know everything (which is nothing)?

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ThePerfectDrug

im thinking that the universe cant be grasped at all..in a scientific way, at least nothing more than saying what planets have what atmopsheres and things like that. It is interesting to me, but that is it. It inspires my wonder, but doesnt inspire me to know, and i like that. Its beautiful to me, and that is all.

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Paranoid Android

Someone watched SuperNova last night didnt they?

I know I did.

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HunterThompson

You're misinterpreting. Science says there is no evidence to say that the experience is god calling to them or something like that. If you experience it, it's an experience; Science does not deny that. Science offers physiological explanations for why you may have had the experience, but it doesn't deny that it's an experience.

So I suppose living longer, having better nutrition, lower infant mortality, and safer living conditions mean nothing to you?


I've read the book. The point is, Quantum Physics allows us to make verifiable predictions about quanta - it's congruence with Taoist thought is interesting, but does not make Quantum THeory less valild. Reading the Tao will not enable you to build an Atomic Force Microscope. Quantum Physics will.

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Nihilists, huh? Fuck me.
I mean, say what you want about the tenents of national socialism dude, at least it's an ethos!

snapshot

But the reason for the existance of both is exactly the same.

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Zeta-burn

to the moron who said we dont know what light is:
its photons. photons you fuck. the lowest energy frequency of open strings. so uh, we do know what it is.