Churchianity vs. Christianity

Canuck Wisdom · 02-14-2005, 05:08 PM

I wasn't going to post this because I thought Funky_Unkle might, but because o Miami's recent thread on Christians in FFA, I decided this might be a good read for some yahookans. I put a link in that thread, but here is its own thread for open discussion.

http://www.comcen.com.au/~fold/comic...tians_0-1.html

I like it, and I like its point.

Maybe someday people will realize this and I can go anywhere in the world and tell them I'm Christian without having a fear of being blown to pieces.

atantricchic · 02-14-2005, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck Wisdom

I wasn't going to post this because I thought Funky_Unkle might, but because o Miami's recent thread on Christians in FFA, I decided this might be a good read for some yahookans. I put a link in that thread, but here is its own thread for open discussion.

http://www.comcen.com.au/~fold/comic...ans_18-19.html

I like it, and I like its point.

Maybe someday people will realize this and I can go anywhere in the world and tell them I'm Christian without having a fear of being blown to pieces.

Maybe the anger comes from you just telling to much or trying to convince others.

I would like for you to politely accept that my belief system is as valid as urs from the start.

I don't thinkit's wrong to witness to people who want to hear it.

But why is this the only religion that takes such heavy coerion? Like I said in the other thread, I have NEVER had to ask someone to be interested in my religion. I'm usually trying to filter nosy people out of alot of it. And they always want to know more.

Think about why this isn't the case for many Christians...

Canuck Wisdom · 02-14-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by atantricchic

Maybe the anger comes from you just telling to much or trying to convince others.

I would like for you to politely accept that my belief system is as valid as urs from the start.

I don't thinkit's wrong to witness to people who want to hear it.

But why is this the only religion that takes such heavy coerion? Like I said in the other thread, I have NEVER had to ask someone to be interested in my religion. I'm usually trying to filter nosy people out of alot of it. And they always want to know more.

Think about why this isn't the case for many Christians...

MAAAYYYBBEE you should read the link before you go ahead and post...

also, I edited it, the first link I posted was half-way through. my bad.

and, its long and the print is small so I understand if you don't make it all the way through, especially on the first go, I know I didn't.

snapshot · 02-14-2005, 05:47 PM

Congratulations for being a member of the most unorganized occult of today.

You won't be recongized as a trueChristian and you won't be accepted as a complete individual if you label yourself "Christian". Kind of like how you can't call yourself cool. A self-proclaimed Christian is still a Christ posuer.

Canuck Wisdom · 02-14-2005, 06:12 PM

I am a follower of Christ's teachings, hence Christian... so whatever. Maybe, just maybe, in the future I'll be the one to change international opinions about christians, who knows.

Its not like I'm gonna lie and say I'm not a follower, I don't know what you want from me.

I know what you mean though Snapshot. about not being able to call myself cool.

I'm not that cool anyways, I only like... half live that way... I'm quite the sinner.

02-14-2005, 06:38 PM

to be christian all you have to do is believe christ is your savior, nothing else.

snapshot · 02-14-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by paintballads

to be christian all you have to do is believe christ is your savior, nothing else.

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

02-14-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by snapshot182

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

care to expand on this?

also what is your belief system?

SmokeSomeDoja · 02-14-2005, 07:05 PM

having a religion based around an individual is a wrong and potentially dangerous view.

this is one of the reasons why the buddha insisted not to worship him, or creating altars or statues of him. because its not about him. its about you.

i found it cool that at a buddhist temple i went to, they had simple statues of the buddha, jesus, mohammed, and others. jesus was the only one with opened eyes, for some reason.

all of those people were "enlightened." they knew what was going on, and they did what they could to teach others about the ultimate truth. however, when youre dealing with the human race (alot of fucking idiots), alot of people fuck things up.

jesus was not the one and only true savior, thats ridiculous. he was enlightened, like many other people before and after him.

Governor · 02-14-2005, 07:06 PM

I try to stay away from people that follow that jesus guy. It seems like Jesus and violent death go hand in hand.

North_of_Sanity · 02-14-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck Wisdom

Maybe someday people will realize this and I can go anywhere in the world and tell them I'm Christian without having a fear of being blown to pieces.

Unless someone is specifically asking you what your faith is, why would you need to tell them? If you just blurt it out for no reason, someone might be kind of taken off guard and give you that "you're a wierdo" look.

Don't be defensive if that happens, it's probably not intentional. Just keep your faith to yourself unless asked. If not, you're always going to - not necessarily offend - but rub some people the wrong way.

Like, don't go to a Jewish household and - just out of nowhere - be like "Hey, I'm Christian."

SmokeSomeDoja · 02-14-2005, 07:12 PM

christians believe that jesus was the messiah, and jews do not.

Mes·si·ah ** *P***Pronunciation Key**(m-s)
n.
also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews.

also Messias Christianity. Jesus.

messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.

since jesus was a "savior or liberator," as was the buddha, mohammed, etc. etc. i find it stupid that people would even get in huge arguments about this fucking stupid garbage. thats why one person should not be glorified. because you get this stupid shit between jews/christians/muslims about the stupidest of fucking details. recognize jesus was enlighted, and there you go. "savior" or not, go fuck yourself.

North_of_Sanity · 02-14-2005, 07:15 PM

Christians don't like Jews because they know Jesus was a fraud, and Christians can't accept it.

The earth's creator didn't bear one born son though a virgin

Even the mere surface of the legend is retarded.

"He said: Let there be light" Ya, sure

SmokeSomeDoja · 02-14-2005, 07:16 PM

you shouldnt have that fear in the first place. were all fucking humans, and a vast majority of humans realize this.

religions shouldnt divide us, they should unite us. god damn, some of you people need to go to another "place of worship" and realize thats its all the same fucking bullshit that you should take for whatever you yourself decide to take it as. not what the asshole thats sitting next to you thinks, or not what the priest/etc/etc thinks.

im willing to bet that most people have never been to another "place of worship" besides their own. go to a jewish temple. go to a mosque. go to a buddhist temple. go to a hindu temple. i guarantee youll be welcomed. see for yourself how similar all the worlds religions are, even the western and eastern...theyre far more similar than most think.

North_of_Sanity · 02-14-2005, 07:17 PM

You like overdramatizing, don't you?

It's like you cry over this stuff late at night or something.

SmokeSomeDoja · 02-14-2005, 07:20 PM

no, i just realize how fucking stupid it is and cant for the life of me figure out why others still differentiate people by religions.

SmokeSomeDoja · 02-14-2005, 07:22 PM

seriously...for example, how many christians do you think dont know why jesus is the "savior?"

how many christians have discussed their beliefs with those with other religions, without feeling awkward or defensive?

im saying christian because that what most of the people in this country are.

North_of_Sanity · 02-14-2005, 07:23 PM

Wah, Wah,

who's discriminating here?

All I said was "Jesus was a fraud."

There is no "one born son" It's fucking stupid.

Anyone who uses the fairy tale to shape morals is O.K. by me.

Anyone who actually believes Jesus is the one born son of the earth's creator...is just plain dumb.

Sorry! That's my opinion. Take it for whatever you will.

You can get all steamed and rant back at me again and again, but it's not going to change.

SmokeSomeDoja · 02-14-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by North_of_Sanity

Wah, Wah, who's discriminating here?

All I said was "Jesus was a fraud."

There is no "one born son" It's fucking stupid.

Anyone who uses the fairy tale to shape morals is O.K. by me.

Anyone who actually believes Jesus is the one born son of the earth's creator...is just plain dumb.

Sorry! That's my opinion. Take it for whatever you will.

well, first off, i wasnt even talking to you in the first place. more of an open forum response to some of the comments i had read.

so....ill just disregard that post, because i dont want to respond to it, given the lack of interest on my part, and my interest in avoiding a stupid flame war.

North_of_Sanity · 02-14-2005, 07:28 PM

This kind of looks like flaming to me....

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeSomeDoja

you shouldnt have that fear in the first place. were all fucking humans, and a vast majority of humans realize this.

religions shouldnt divide us, they should unite us. god damn, some of you people need to go to another "place of worship" and realize thats its all the same fucking bullshit that you should take for whatever you yourself decide to take it as. not what the asshole thats sitting next to you thinks, or not what the priest/etc/etc thinks.

im willing to bet that most people have never been to another "place of worship" besides their own. go to a jewish temple. go to a mosque. go to a buddhist temple. go to a hindu temple. i guarantee youll be welcomed. see for yourself how similar all the worlds religions are, even the western and eastern...theyre far more similar than most think.

Fucking....this.

Bullshit....that

. Take a fucking pill!

You and Pitfall should do some 69. I'd relieve your tension.

02-14-2005, 05:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
snapshot no custom. customize Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The unOriginal Rorschach. Posts: 19,305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	Congratulations for being a member of the most unorganized occult of today. You won't be recongized as a trueChristian and you won't be accepted as a complete individual if you label yourself "Christian". Kind of like how you can't call yourself cool. A self-proclaimed Christian is still a Christ posuer. __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. -Richard Dawkins

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SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 17,396 Thanks: 238 Thanked 445 Times in 279 Posts	having a religion based around an individual is a wrong and potentially dangerous view. this is one of the reasons why the buddha insisted not to worship him, or creating altars or statues of him. because its not about him. its about you. i found it cool that at a buddhist temple i went to, they had simple statues of the buddha, jesus, mohammed, and others. jesus was the only one with opened eyes, for some reason. all of those people were "enlightened." they knew what was going on, and they did what they could to teach others about the ultimate truth. however, when youre dealing with the human race (alot of fucking idiots), alot of people fuck things up. jesus was not the one and only true savior, thats ridiculous. he was enlightened, like many other people before and after him. __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

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Governor Decade Yahookan Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Denver Colorado amerika Posts: 4,146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	I try to stay away from people that follow that jesus guy. It seems like Jesus and violent death go hand in hand. __________________ 'Marijuana is responsible for evolution itself' Dr. Robert Melamede "Fuck the monkeys" Ken Gorman potgov@yahoo.com 420 Medicine

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SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 17,396 Thanks: 238 Thanked 445 Times in 279 Posts	christians believe that jesus was the messiah, and jews do not. Mes·si·ah ** PPronunciation Key(m-s) n. also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews. also Messias Christianity. Jesus. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator. since jesus was a "savior or liberator," as was the buddha, mohammed, etc. etc. i find it stupid that people would even get in huge arguments about this fucking stupid garbage. thats why one person should not be glorified. because you get this stupid shit between jews/christians/muslims about the stupidest of fucking details. recognize jesus was enlighted, and there you go. "savior" or not, go fuck yourself. __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

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North_of_Sanity Infidelous Borealis Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 5,861 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Christians don't like Jews because they know Jesus was a fraud, and Christians can't accept it. The earth's creator didn't bear one born son though a virgin Even the mere surface of the legend is retarded. "He said: Let there be light" Ya, sure __________________ "His professional diagnosis: Narcissistic Personality Disorder. My unprofessional diagnosis: Nut-Job!" - Jim Rome "I don't have a girlfriend. But I know a woman who would be upset if she heard me say that." - Mitch Hedberg "Condoms are stupid" - some dirty ho

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paintballads Guest Posts: n/a	to be christian all you have to do is believe christ is your savior, nothing else.

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SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 17,396 Thanks: 238 Thanked 445 Times in 279 Posts	you shouldnt have that fear in the first place. were all fucking humans, and a vast majority of humans realize this. religions shouldnt divide us, they should unite us. god damn, some of you people need to go to another "place of worship" and realize thats its all the same fucking bullshit that you should take for whatever you yourself decide to take it as. not what the asshole thats sitting next to you thinks, or not what the priest/etc/etc thinks. im willing to bet that most people have never been to another "place of worship" besides their own. go to a jewish temple. go to a mosque. go to a buddhist temple. go to a hindu temple. i guarantee youll be welcomed. see for yourself how similar all the worlds religions are, even the western and eastern...theyre far more similar than most think. __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

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North_of_Sanity Infidelous Borealis Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 5,861 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	You like overdramatizing, don't you? It's like you cry over this stuff late at night or something. __________________ "His professional diagnosis: Narcissistic Personality Disorder. My unprofessional diagnosis: Nut-Job!" - Jim Rome "I don't have a girlfriend. But I know a woman who would be upset if she heard me say that." - Mitch Hedberg "Condoms are stupid" - some dirty ho

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SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 17,396 Thanks: 238 Thanked 445 Times in 279 Posts	no, i just realize how fucking stupid it is and cant for the life of me figure out why others still differentiate people by religions. __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

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SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 17,396 Thanks: 238 Thanked 445 Times in 279 Posts	seriously...for example, how many christians do you think dont know why jesus is the "savior?" how many christians have discussed their beliefs with those with other religions, without feeling awkward or defensive? im saying christian because that what most of the people in this country are. __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

02-14-2005, 07:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
North_of_Sanity Infidelous Borealis Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 5,861 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Wah, Wah, who's discriminating here? All I said was "Jesus was a fraud." There is no "one born son" It's fucking stupid. Anyone who uses the fairy tale to shape morals is O.K. by me. Anyone who actually believes Jesus is the one born son of the earth's creator...is just plain dumb. Sorry! That's my opinion. Take it for whatever you will. You can get all steamed and rant back at me again and again, but it's not going to change. __________________ "His professional diagnosis: Narcissistic Personality Disorder. My unprofessional diagnosis: Nut-Job!" - Jim Rome "I don't have a girlfriend. But I know a woman who would be upset if she heard me say that." - Mitch Hedberg "Condoms are stupid" - some dirty ho

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