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Old 03-17-2005, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2012

So throughout time there have been a number of people who have labeled the year 2012 as the end of the world. Then you have the few who says great changes will come.

Its weird how these people all come up with the same time frame of the whole big end or new beginning.

I was just thinking about how the world is being rampaged about by hooligans such as George Bush. The man with the power to destory the world, a liar, fake and straight up the fucking devil. George bush is completely nuts in my opinion, who says this infront of millions of views.. i dont know the exact qoute but he claims he was chosen by god to be president.. lunatic right there. There was never a royal family or some long blood stream leading back to the kings who claimed they were chosen by god to rule the people.. anyone back then who could intimidate everyone can bullshit you to believe you were chosen.

If you know about the whole history of the relationship between the bush family and the bin laden family you would know shit dosnt make sense anymore. The bin laden family lent bush's family alot of money to start 2 oil companys that totally went to shit. Im sure the bin ladens didnt like this at all. Then we got bush providing money for bin laden to train their soliders because the "russians" were gonna get them. This is just ludacris. I could go on and on about all the fucking bullshit bush has spewed from his mouth and how thier family is really twisted.. money this money that gotta move in and pretend we care so we can get oil and organize an attack so my big bad tank making company can make millions selling useless shit to other countries just so I BUSH can benefit from it and then try to fuck over my greatest friend's the bin laden family. Osama seen through bush thats why he called him the devil.. he seen through bush.

Anyways my rant is over im just upset because shit like this happens. Maybe in 2012 if bush servs another term if he is re-elected he will destory the world by setting off nukes. That could be the "armageddon" for the 2012 date..
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you know, a good number of people in the american government honestly believe that we are in the end of days, and that soon the world is going to end and they are going to be lifted up into heaven.


the scary thing is i'm completely seriously...
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Old 03-17-2005, 10:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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every civilization has its own apocolypse date. When the destruction of the world doesn't happen, they just push the date back a couple of hundred years.
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What a fucking bitch, 2012 is my retirement year.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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See the thing is its just not our culture who predicted 2012 as the end date. Nostradamus and a bunch of others have come to the conclusion that 2012 is an end date. Im looking on the brighter side and hoping that Terence Mckenna's theory of the year 2012 goes into play.
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Oh jesus, not another 2012 thread.

Check this one out man http://www.yahooka.com/forum/showthr...4&page=1&pp=40

There's some classic Pitfall in there, pages and pages and pages of it.
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See the thing is its just not our culture who predicted 2012 as the end date. Nostradamus and a bunch of others have come to the conclusion that 2012 is an end date. Im looking on the brighter side and hoping that Terence Mckenna's theory of the year 2012 goes into play.


Our culture didn't predict shit.....It was the Myans who's 5th civilization ends......Nostradamu s is all hype......Gotta love the ambiguous way he wrote his "predictions"....Eve n if it didn't happen...hey, it was close enough
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As I said it wasnt just one person predicting or having some weird visions, these visions or information these people recieve obvisouly comes from some where if you have any knowledge of how the mind works or the effects of consious expanding drugs.
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What a fucking bitch, 2012 is my retirement year.
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Don't worry about it, venerable one. I have decided not to destroy the world in that year.



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oh jeez.
don't get me started on that lame conspiracy theory of "the world will end in 2012 dude!". It's just another theory, like y2k. It's not fact. And besides, if anything in 2012, it won't be like T. McKenna says it will be.

I'm sorry, but this whole cottage industry of 2012 being the
end of the world purportedly based on Mayan cosmogeny has one
very big hole in it: Bishop Landa did a great job of destroy-
ing many Mayan codices in his bonfire in the townsquare of Mer-
ida back in the 16th century.

Only about 3 to 4 complete or partial codices remain. How can
a wild-eyed increasingly popular theory be based on this fact,
not to mention a spurious authorship to boot? There are few
people in this world who can decipher the intricate Mayan hiero-
glyphs, and I find this whole theory to be simply bunk! It is
not based upon logic at all

Besides, it's all just the end of a Mayan calendar cycle.
The next cycle is going to be a lot better than this one.
Don't worry, Ah Puch the destroyer will not be coming in 2012.
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you know, a good number of people in the american government honestly believe that we are in the end of days, and that soon the world is going to end and they are going to be lifted up into heaven.


the scary thing is i'm completely seriously...
It's true Jesus.
Reagan thought this in the 80s.
He thought that we could survive Nuclear Armageddon and that it was the time of Judgement. Like the 2nd end of the world/cleansing with fire, since the first was with water and Noah's ark.

Anyway, I'm sure that most hardcore neocons believe in this.
Bush II does, so does Cheney, and Ashcroft too.

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Honestly my views just come my recent feeling of understanding in a wide range, i've been researching psychedics for awhile now and alot of things truly make sence of what terence mckenna says, its from analyzing your journeys with a natural substance grown right from the earth who which tells you right from wrong and basically explains alot of things that are going on around the world and with the human mind. The mind is evolving, its the last resort for mankind, either terence mckenna is right from baseing his whole life's work on the human mind and the research of ancient civilizations and their mushroom and dmt use.. straight from the ground our own earth and not bullshit such as western religions which arnt truley the words of jesus christ. Its to hard to believe the western culture anymore when you really understand what its acutally going on. I dont know maybe im going insane or im one of the sanest people in the world but it makes alot of sence from personal experiences and not random nonsence that has been changed.
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Honestly my views just come my recent feeling of understanding in a wide range, i've been researching psychedics for awhile now and alot of things truly make sence of what terence mckenna says, its from analyzing your journeys with a natural substance grown right from the earth who which tells you right from wrong and basically explains alot of things that are going on around the world and with the human mind. The mind is evolving, its the last resort for mankind, either terence mckenna is right from baseing his whole life's work on the human mind and the research of ancient civilizations and their mushroom and dmt use.. straight from the ground our own earth and not bullshit such as western religions which arnt truley the words of jesus christ. Its to hard to believe the western culture anymore when you really understand what its acutally going on. I dont know maybe im going insane or im one of the sanest people in the world but it makes alot of sence from personal experiences and not random nonsence that has been changed.
keep in mind that when you take mushrooms you're taking a living organism into your body and this organism is part of a network, a collective entity if you will (look at a myclelial network, or see how the Maztec natives in central America view Language itself as an entity and use mushrooms in their religious ceremonies).

You're having a relationship with biotechnology, with a very powerful psychedelic biosynthetic and that it controls you (while you're on it), you don't control it.
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keep in mind that when you take mushrooms you're taking a living organism into your body and this organism is part of a network, a collective entity if you will (look at a myclelial network, or see how the Maztec natives in central America view Language itself as an entity and use mushrooms in their religious ceremonies).

You're having a relationship with biotechnology, with a very powerful psychedelic biosynthetic and that it controls you (while you're on it), you don't control it.
There is nothing techinical or synthetic about mushrooms, nor biological about the trip itself. You are taking a dried fungus with psilocybin and psilocin, not biological, organic, products of biological processes within the cells of the fungus, and having a perceptual experience, not a controlled experience by any means. The only thing being controlled is your reaction to the experience through will power and concious thought.

I must say I really don't like the way you describe mushrooms in this case.


On 2012, anyone who is sure that nothing will happen sounds just as crazy as the people who do believe something will happen. The skeptics are just more socially accepted, but still have the same pseudopsychotic qualities as the believers.

In essense, you're all stupid.
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:09 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Take a look at Bodhisattva last post "Charity begins at Homo Sapiens"

Something caught my eye

"Our emotional brain has a hard time imagining the future, even though our logical brain clearly sees the future consequences of our current actions," said Harvard economist David Laibson. "Our emotional brain wants to max out the credit card, even though our logical brain knows we should save for retirement."

Kinda seems like what is going on latley, alot of people are realizing the true nature of our current status and are looking for a new beginning or the end.
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Maybe in 2012 if bush servs another term if he is re-elected he will destory the world by setting off nukes.

bush is already on his second term man. he cant get re elected. so no worries
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:25 AM   #17 (permalink)
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my theory on why myan calander ends on 12-21-12

it started by debunking some an article like this...
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According to Mayan Elder Carlos Barrios’ reading of the Mayan calendar, if war happens in November 2002 or after, then it’s bad, but not catastrophic. But if it happens between April and November 2003, it will be catastrophic. Really bad. It could eventually result in the death of two-thirds of humanity. “So stay active,” he says. “If we are active, we can transform the planet. The elders watch to see what happens.”


The very first culture known to have a writing system was the sumerian (5000bc-1300bc) culture. they had a model of our solar system that was the same as what we have today, exept for one small difference - a 10th planet. Pluto was not discovered by us untill 1930 publicly. it was first photographed at lowell observatory in 1915 but not discovered till 30. anyway, percival lowell was dedicated to the study of mars, but towards the end of his life he was looking for a 9th planet. the reason he was looking for it was becasue there was an unknown gravitational force effecting the orbit of uranus and neptune. in 1930 when pluto was discovered it was accepted that this was the case.

this WAS NOT the case. in 1960 (or close to not 100%) a moon of pluto was discoverd and plutos mass was calculated. pluto is not what was casuing orbital deviations.

the sumerians had correct knowledge of all of the solar system as we know it today plus this 10th planet called nibiru. they placed this yet undiscoverd planet on a 3600 year eliptical orbit.

my theory is this:

the recent earth related events are related to the relative closeness of this 10th planet. (tis is not the large asteriod/planetoid sedna that has recently been discoverd.) the fluxuations are not casued by gravity, but rather magnetic feilds from this planet.

in 1983 encyclopedia britanica stated that pioneer would travel another 40 years out to search for our solar systems second sun, a sun that never made it. it is alleged to be a brown dwarf.

i have a bunch of additional evidence.

1 the cycle of the sun is 1336040 days
2 the myan calandar is 1336560 days long and ends in 2012
3 thats just over 3600 years, 3741 to be exact. thats within 4%, an acceptable tolerance imho.
4 every 11 years and at the end of a cycle the suns magnetic feild reverses.
5 there have been mass exctinctions on earth at times coresponding to when this planet would be around, including the last ice age.
6 there was more solar activity last year (magnetism plays a huge part) than in the last 8000 years or so.
7 the earths magnetic feild is moving south at a rate of 60km per second, and the earths magnetic feild has been known to completely reverse. if you
placed a telescope on antartica, you would be able to see into a 'blind spot' in space that we cannot currently see.

it is my opinion that the mayans had the same knowledge as the sumerians
and had realized the planet got fuxored every time nibiru came close. thats why their calander ends on december 21st 2012. they ecpect nibiru to be in the vicinity and bring changes due to its magnetic feilds, and not that it will directly hit earth, but that it will bring along comets/asteroids that will.

anyway, a huge magnetic feild within our own solar sytem would definately
alter our weather/sun/geo kinetic activity.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread112677/pg1
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Nothing will happen in 2012.
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2012? Nah, especially if looking at the trackrecord of apocalypse predictions...
http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm
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bush is already on his second term man. he cant get re elected. so no worries
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