The Most Fundamental Belief?

Mescalito · 03-28-2005, 09:41 AM

I personally believe that THOUGHT COLOURS EXPERIENCE or THOUGHT CREATES REALITY. Every other belief i have is affected by this one belief. When my old limiting beliefs about my personal reality changed, my entire belief system was messed with. It was the biggest change in my life.

The thing about this belief is that your experience of reality will always back up your belief system. In other words new beliefs are only accepted if they fit into your current set of beliefs.

By belief i mean any idea which you accept as truth. Although despite this i am aware that truth is not necessarily true. What my belief gives me the freedom to do is to recognise that all my beliefs create my reality and so ultimately limiting beliefs can be rooted out and changed to my liking.... Reality creation... energy manipulation... metaphysics.. call it what you will.

From this one belief sits all my other beliefs.

Try and recognise your limiting beliefs and change them.. If you write them down you will see that eventually you will get some core beliefs that all the others are directly related to. Change these core beliefs if they are limiting to 'you' and the rest change automatically.

Some great 'evidence' for this system is the placebo effect. But until you have experienced first hand your reality change as a reuslt of your change in belief then you will truely understand what i mean. The world is our canvas so go paint a picture.

Another very impoartant onem ive mentioned alot... connectedness and self. I am everything and everything is expression of that unlimited self.

So.. any thoughts?

It would be sweet if you could post one of your own limiting beliefs too..

M

snapshot · 03-28-2005, 09:47 AM

The most findamental belief that I have studied:

"I think, therefore I am." -Descartes

My most:beliefs are barrier.

I can't expound at the moment.

SweetSativa · 03-28-2005, 09:56 AM

I'm sure that I will respond to this again... I'm having one of my 'attention deficit' moments

. At this moment, it seems that my most limiting belief is that I need to change.

Mescalito · 03-28-2005, 10:18 AM

I will post the ways explained to me by seth through the seth books how to change beliefs easily.. later on.

Lucid dreaming and meditation among many thing i believe are a good way to identify deeper beliefs.. but really the constant consious nattering that is our thoughts and our current perception of reality can uncover just as many.

In fact when i first heard about this i spent the whole day deeply analysing my thoughts and found limiting beliefs everywhere... there were a shitload! But they all lead to some common belief which i now realise that if i changed will change all the others linked to it just like that.

Its amazing that people can hold such limiting beliefs and accept them everyday and not even realise. Like.. 'I cannot change my beliefs', 'i cannot lucid dream', 'Im cant be creative'....These simple beliefs which are constantly reinforced each time they are found to be 'true' in the reality have massive consequences for alot of other beliefs and your perception of reality.

Its like with wars.. some may feel quite virtuous in hating 'evil' (what seems to you to be evil (the link to other beliefs)). But i think that the more one concentrates on evil or hatred.. the more it is created.

If theres one purpose for my life its to manipulate my reality.. enjoy.. and teach others how to.

(Smile!!!... go on... bet you cant do a real one. heh).

M

The Rev · 03-28-2005, 11:13 AM

My most fundamental "belief" is that I exist. However, I have good evidence that this is true, so I consider it to be a most fundamental truth, rather than belief.

The Rev

SweetSativa · 03-28-2005, 11:45 AM

Hey Sanchez, my friend. Every belief is limiting (exclamation point). However, it is also directive and it is also what defines you. If you wish not to be defined (which I do not), then do not believe in anything... but then, isn't the belief that you have no belief, just a belief...hahahahahah a. But there are many beliefs that are not true... they are not really OURS but passed down from all of the negative thoughts/ limiting thoughts that we are taught throughout life. We doubt ourSELVES and this is the most limiting of beliefs. I have found that if I just OPEN to a possibility (negative or positive depending upon the value that we assign to it), it is given a ratio of validity that directly correlates to the amount of "BELIEF" and the amount of 'true energy' behind it. For instance, the 'happy thoughts, happy thoughts' mentality behind many "lovenlighters" is detrimental from my view because it involves denial of TRUTH and the force that is used to oppose the negativity is actually energy that is directly given, power that is directly given to the opposing force. EASE... doesn't Seth speak of EASE?

However, I definately do use ignorance to my advantage many times. I try not to focus my attention on the negative by diverting my focus to something else but things that are not dealt with continue to resurface... it is all in the LAWS OF CREATION... in this given reality. Looking into Hedon's thread about detecting simulation.... the only thing that I have to go by is a mystic's mind and what feels right... what has proven itself to be correct to me. However, I don't know if it's right... I just have to assume that it is because if I spend all of my time wondering what is right and what is wrong, it leaves no room for action... nor for manifesting what it is that I PREFER.

Mescalito · 03-28-2005, 11:59 AM

Yeah.. i see what you mean Sweet.

Nicely expressed.

The potential of the self never ceases to amaze.

M

Ego Tripping · 03-28-2005, 01:48 PM

Thought is the essence of all our reality. Everthing Mankind has created existed soley in the Realm of Thought before we manifested it into physical reality, even this Website (trippy thought).

My most fundamental belief is Belief itself.

I have finally come to grips with my unknowingness and complete dependence on Faith no matter WHAT belief I choose.

Science itself requires more Faith than Spirituality to me. I am comfortable being completely innocent to the truth or at least how the Truth came about. We truly know NOTHING and everything we do know is most likely completely wrong. IMO, the Human Race has purpose but its still finding that purpose and until we are self-realized with that purpose, we won't know what it is. Meaning, we gotta find it before we're told what we're looking for!

I heard a funny phrase from Edgar Cayce I believe that read,

"Love is the answer. Any questions?"

Governor · 03-28-2005, 01:58 PM

I Am - ism

03-28-2005, 09:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,294 Thanks: 866 Thanked 907 Times in 444 Posts	The Most Fundamental Belief? I personally believe that THOUGHT COLOURS EXPERIENCE or THOUGHT CREATES REALITY. Every other belief i have is affected by this one belief. When my old limiting beliefs about my personal reality changed, my entire belief system was messed with. It was the biggest change in my life. The thing about this belief is that your experience of reality will always back up your belief system. In other words new beliefs are only accepted if they fit into your current set of beliefs. By belief i mean any idea which you accept as truth. Although despite this i am aware that truth is not necessarily true. What my belief gives me the freedom to do is to recognise that all my beliefs create my reality and so ultimately limiting beliefs can be rooted out and changed to my liking.... Reality creation... energy manipulation... metaphysics.. call it what you will. From this one belief sits all my other beliefs. Try and recognise your limiting beliefs and change them.. If you write them down you will see that eventually you will get some core beliefs that all the others are directly related to. Change these core beliefs if they are limiting to 'you' and the rest change automatically. Some great 'evidence' for this system is the placebo effect. But until you have experienced first hand your reality change as a reuslt of your change in belief then you will truely understand what i mean. The world is our canvas so go paint a picture. Another very impoartant onem ive mentioned alot... connectedness and self. I am everything and everything is expression of that unlimited self. So.. any thoughts? It would be sweet if you could post one of your own limiting beliefs too.. M

03-28-2005, 09:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
snapshot no custom. customize Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The unOriginal Rorschach. Posts: 19,302 Thanks: 15 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	The most findamental belief that I have studied: "I think, therefore I am." -Descartes My most:beliefs are barrier. I can't expound at the moment. __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. -Richard Dawkins

03-28-2005, 09:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
SweetSativa Lucid Daydreamer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,930 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 47 Posts	I'm sure that I will respond to this again... I'm having one of my 'attention deficit' moments . At this moment, it seems that my most limiting belief is that I need to change. __________________ "Why is it that when people talk to God, we call it praying but when God talks to people, we call it crazy?"- Touched by an Angel http://www.youtube.com/user/immelody.../0/DDRj93dQ0O0

03-28-2005, 11:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,860 Thanks: 5,012 Thanked 5,416 Times in 2,862 Posts	My most fundamental "belief" is that I exist. However, I have good evidence that this is true, so I consider it to be a most fundamental truth, rather than belief. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

03-28-2005, 11:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
SweetSativa Lucid Daydreamer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,930 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 47 Posts	Hey Sanchez, my friend. Every belief is limiting (exclamation point). However, it is also directive and it is also what defines you. If you wish not to be defined (which I do not), then do not believe in anything... but then, isn't the belief that you have no belief, just a belief...hahahahahah a. But there are many beliefs that are not true... they are not really OURS but passed down from all of the negative thoughts/ limiting thoughts that we are taught throughout life. We doubt ourSELVES and this is the most limiting of beliefs. I have found that if I just OPEN to a possibility (negative or positive depending upon the value that we assign to it), it is given a ratio of validity that directly correlates to the amount of "BELIEF" and the amount of 'true energy' behind it. For instance, the 'happy thoughts, happy thoughts' mentality behind many "lovenlighters" is detrimental from my view because it involves denial of TRUTH and the force that is used to oppose the negativity is actually energy that is directly given, power that is directly given to the opposing force. EASE... doesn't Seth speak of EASE? However, I definately do use ignorance to my advantage many times. I try not to focus my attention on the negative by diverting my focus to something else but things that are not dealt with continue to resurface... it is all in the LAWS OF CREATION... in this given reality. Looking into Hedon's thread about detecting simulation.... the only thing that I have to go by is a mystic's mind and what feels right... what has proven itself to be correct to me. However, I don't know if it's right... I just have to assume that it is because if I spend all of my time wondering what is right and what is wrong, it leaves no room for action... nor for manifesting what it is that I PREFER. __________________ "Why is it that when people talk to God, we call it praying but when God talks to people, we call it crazy?"- Touched by an Angel http://www.youtube.com/user/immelody.../0/DDRj93dQ0O0

03-28-2005, 10:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,294 Thanks: 866 Thanked 907 Times in 444 Posts	I will post the ways explained to me by seth through the seth books how to change beliefs easily.. later on. Lucid dreaming and meditation among many thing i believe are a good way to identify deeper beliefs.. but really the constant consious nattering that is our thoughts and our current perception of reality can uncover just as many. In fact when i first heard about this i spent the whole day deeply analysing my thoughts and found limiting beliefs everywhere... there were a shitload! But they all lead to some common belief which i now realise that if i changed will change all the others linked to it just like that. Its amazing that people can hold such limiting beliefs and accept them everyday and not even realise. Like.. 'I cannot change my beliefs', 'i cannot lucid dream', 'Im cant be creative'....These simple beliefs which are constantly reinforced each time they are found to be 'true' in the reality have massive consequences for alot of other beliefs and your perception of reality. Its like with wars.. some may feel quite virtuous in hating 'evil' (what seems to you to be evil (the link to other beliefs)). But i think that the more one concentrates on evil or hatred.. the more it is created. If theres one purpose for my life its to manipulate my reality.. enjoy.. and teach others how to. (Smile!!!... go on... bet you cant do a real one. heh). M

03-28-2005, 11:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,294 Thanks: 866 Thanked 907 Times in 444 Posts	Yeah.. i see what you mean Sweet. Nicely expressed. The potential of the self never ceases to amaze. M

03-28-2005, 01:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,468 Thanks: 229 Thanked 665 Times in 443 Posts	Thought is the essence of all our reality. Everthing Mankind has created existed soley in the Realm of Thought before we manifested it into physical reality, even this Website (trippy thought). My most fundamental belief is Belief itself. I have finally come to grips with my unknowingness and complete dependence on Faith no matter WHAT belief I choose. Science itself requires more Faith than Spirituality to me. I am comfortable being completely innocent to the truth or at least how the Truth came about. We truly know NOTHING and everything we do know is most likely completely wrong. IMO, the Human Race has purpose but its still finding that purpose and until we are self-realized with that purpose, we won't know what it is. Meaning, we gotta find it before we're told what we're looking for! I heard a funny phrase from Edgar Cayce I believe that read, "Love is the answer. Any questions?" __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day.

03-28-2005, 01:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Governor Decade Yahookan Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Denver Colorado amerika Posts: 4,146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	I Am - ism __________________ 'Marijuana is responsible for evolution itself' Dr. Robert Melamede "Fuck the monkeys" Ken Gorman potgov@yahoo.com 420 Medicine

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