so when the bible/God says... - Page 3

iamislegrown · 12-31-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SageTree

Hey mon,

Hope you didn't think I was defending anything

When I read that some time ago, it was just another thing that made me realize how that document, with the some good that is in it, has "lost alot in the translation"....to say the least.

I was a christian for the first 16 yrs of my life and when I reached that age I thought about too manythings, like is Ghandi going to hell? and alot of the thoughts expressed here....I could rationalize the Scripture " A day is a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day". That made sense to me because I could grasp infinitie time, which is a concept I hold true. As I started my own theology as I grew older and found other religions to incorperate or relate to, I realized that I wasn't what the average person would have considered a "real" christian, in my church. Now that more time has passed I am able to revisit the bible and find things that I can apply to my life. However it is not viewed upon much differently than any other religions texts. I think the more "god" is explained the more it loses in mystery. I don't know what "god" IS, but I do believe it can't be anything that would want to hurt us intentionally. god is all ,I am part of all, a co creator. I don't get the whole firery god thing.

The whole firery god thing was a fear tactic, just like the "heaven" thing, only with heaven it was a selfish/greed tactic, they talked about crowns filled with jewels, streets paved in gold, wtf?, but they will claim that the use of material wealth was just so man could understand, wtf?

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Originally Posted by SageTree

I really don't know what I hoped to say with, I guess I just wanted to let you alittle bit about me and why how I feel about things.

The biggest thing I've learned is the more you know about other religions, the more you know about your own. Most christian churchs I ever went to told me that the other were wrong and don't waste my time.....how much does the average jesus freak really know about the bible more often than not.

Shit people tell me I'm a good christian all the time.....little do they know

Peace man the biggest thing I hold true and makes me the saddest is, that religion should bring people together..not drive them apart.

Love

True word.

surf*and*smoke · 01-01-2006, 02:44 AM

i treat everyone how i would like to be treated in the religion aspect...i stay open minded and dont push my beliefs on anyone...it is most christians that i kno however that push their religion onto me and pressure me to change for their own likeing, those people alone make me not want to be any more christian than jewish or muslim...

what is the word for believing in your own thing?

funky_unkle · 01-01-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Štulic

It's admirable that there are still people who believe in a book written, rewritten and overwritten by who knows who thousands of years ago.

This is very much a myth. Copies and passing-ons of scripture have been shown to be extremely consistent, though there are, of course, examples of falsification.

funky_unkle · 01-01-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodshoteyez

so when the bible/God says, you will not worship any other Gods but me...

before the bible, there were people, they believed in multiple Gods... what happened to them? would they be punished? i cant see how because the bible wasn't out yet. this is for people that believe in God.

Christians today generally refer to the bible to find out what God has to say. While that may certainly be useful, many of them neglect to communicate with him themselves. The bible records thousands of stories where God speak in a thousand ways, from dreams and visions to prophets and, in one case, through a donkey. Burning bushes, writing on the wall, roaring thunder, the voice in your heart - they're all there. I think it's sad that so many today are limiting God's way of speaking to a book.

**SageTree** · 01-03-2009, 05:08 PM

Thought this got some good convo.

**Bearsy** · 01-07-2009, 01:18 PM

And in FFA too.

**SageTree** · 01-07-2009, 02:04 PM

***hears the sound of the a Box falling apart****

Why shouldn't there be more eh?

01-07-2009, 02:18 PM

I don't think the bible was written to be followed 2000 years afterwards. No man can anticipate the changes that occur in over 20 generations. But you'd think god could...

At the same time that I would love to believe in a creator so senseless to create the human race, I just don't see it. Some great being who can create whole universes and existance, just makes us, let's us reproduce then grades our actions... Obviously something created us so there is a creator(whether it's an single cell organism or god I dunno).

As for your biblical questions, does a deer go to heaven or hell? If a buddhist dies and was a good person does he go to hell for not believing in the lord almighty? What about someone who smokes cannabis and degrades the temple in which god bestowed upon you(no argument tar in your lungs isn't healthy)? I guess if your a believer than you shouldn't worry about god's job and wait to see some ancient people sitting in heaven with you.

Theism always let's me down. Then again so does science.

Geeno · 01-07-2009, 03:54 PM

You gotta be able to decipher the scams of authors and translation that are found within the bible.

Besides all that jazz it's a good book. Some divine messages that transcend time are definitely a part of it.

OldSchoolStylee · 01-07-2009, 05:10 PM

If there's anything more annoying than loud atheists

oh wait vocal libertarians

**SageTree** · 01-07-2009, 07:08 PM

^^^lol

01-07-2009, 09:00 PM

Really? I see no problem with libertarianism. Lower government, more freedom. Maybe that's just an absurd thought.

Silverleaf · 01-07-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Rue

New god kicked their ass in a pay per view event.

lolz0rz

Geeno · 01-08-2009, 10:00 AM

Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth?

**Kompressor** · 01-08-2009, 10:15 AM

A man arrives at the gates of heaven.
St. Peter asks, "Religion?"
The man says, "Episcopalian."
St. Peter looks down his list, and says, "Go to room 24.
But be very quiet as you pass room 8."

Another man arrives at the gates of heaven.
St. Peter: "Religion"?
Man: "Baptist."
St. Peter: "Go to room 18. But be very quiet as you pass
room 8."

A third man arrives at the gates.
St. Peter: "Religion?"
Man: "Jewish."
St. Peter: "Go to room 11. But be very quiet as you pass
room 8."

The man asks, "I can understand there being different rooms
for different religions, but why must I be quiet when I pass
room 8?"

St. Peter tells him, "Well, the Catholics are in room 8,
and they think they're the only ones here."

**Bearsy** · 01-08-2009, 11:44 AM

lol if there really is a heaven(which I doubt) that's how its gonna go down.

Fuck that "One way" bullshit.

kamikazi89 · 07-15-2009, 09:36 AM

yea, whateverv happened to all those people(tsunami)

Being · 07-15-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smaerd

Really? I see no problem with libertarianism. Lower government, more freedom. Maybe that's just an absurd thought.

more freedom for the rich and selfish to fuck all others willingly.... yeah, great

verklingen · 07-15-2009, 03:42 PM

^ see the problem isn't libertarianism or socialism or conservatism or liberalism or even fascism. the problem is extremism! no one should be a libertarian, socialist etc. that's such a fucking lazy behavior. "i'm going to think in this way for every situation!!!" a more well-reason approach would be assessing each situation and developing a plan of action which aligns with your desired result. since every situation is unique, every situation requires a unique strategy particular to it's unique arrangement of variables

i think we could all do well to realize how little we actually think about our actions and we let guide them. that goes for all aspects of life, as individuals and a collective

kamikazi89 · 07-15-2009, 03:48 PM

A: they still exist.india's population is rather large, is it not?

01-01-2006, 02:44 AM	#42 (permalink)
surfandsmoke I Don't Want It Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Doing a buck ten on highway 5 Posts: 5,495 Thanks: 19 Thanked 27 Times in 15 Posts	i treat everyone how i would like to be treated in the religion aspect...i stay open minded and dont push my beliefs on anyone...it is most christians that i kno however that push their religion onto me and pressure me to change for their own likeing, those people alone make me not want to be any more christian than jewish or muslim... what is the word for believing in your own thing? __________________ Free yer bewbs

01-03-2009, 05:08 PM	#45 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 22,612 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 11,486 Thanked 5,709 Times in 4,024 Posts	Thought this got some good convo. __________________ YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance. "We're not here to judge what's good from bad, But to do the things that are right."

01-07-2009, 02:04 PM	#47 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 22,612 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 11,486 Thanked 5,709 Times in 4,024 Posts	*hears the sound of the a Box falling apart** Why shouldn't there be more eh? __________________ YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance. "We're not here to judge what's good from bad, But to do the things that are right."

01-07-2009, 05:10 PM	#50 (permalink)
OldSchoolStylee ¯\(º_o)/¯ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Blighty Posts: 8,202 Thanks: 17 Thanked 131 Times in 54 Posts	If there's anything more annoying than loud atheists oh wait vocal libertarians __________________ .<12not_bongo> oss is legit hellz ya.

01-07-2009, 07:08 PM	#51 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 22,612 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 11,486 Thanked 5,709 Times in 4,024 Posts	^^^lol __________________ YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance. "We're not here to judge what's good from bad, But to do the things that are right."

01-07-2009, 02:18 PM	#48 (permalink)
Smaerd Guest Posts: n/a	I don't think the bible was written to be followed 2000 years afterwards. No man can anticipate the changes that occur in over 20 generations. But you'd think god could... At the same time that I would love to believe in a creator so senseless to create the human race, I just don't see it. Some great being who can create whole universes and existance, just makes us, let's us reproduce then grades our actions... Obviously something created us so there is a creator(whether it's an single cell organism or god I dunno). As for your biblical questions, does a deer go to heaven or hell? If a buddhist dies and was a good person does he go to hell for not believing in the lord almighty? What about someone who smokes cannabis and degrades the temple in which god bestowed upon you(no argument tar in your lungs isn't healthy)? I guess if your a believer than you shouldn't worry about god's job and wait to see some ancient people sitting in heaven with you. Theism always let's me down. Then again so does science.

01-07-2009, 09:00 PM	#52 (permalink)
Smaerd Guest Posts: n/a	Really? I see no problem with libertarianism. Lower government, more freedom. Maybe that's just an absurd thought.

01-08-2009, 10:15 AM	#55 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,066 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2,849 Times in 1,509 Posts	A man arrives at the gates of heaven. St. Peter asks, "Religion?" The man says, "Episcopalian." St. Peter looks down his list, and says, "Go to room 24. But be very quiet as you pass room 8." Another man arrives at the gates of heaven. St. Peter: "Religion"? Man: "Baptist." St. Peter: "Go to room 18. But be very quiet as you pass room 8." A third man arrives at the gates. St. Peter: "Religion?" Man: "Jewish." St. Peter: "Go to room 11. But be very quiet as you pass room 8." The man asks, "I can understand there being different rooms for different religions, but why must I be quiet when I pass room 8?" St. Peter tells him, "Well, the Catholics are in room 8, and they think they're the only ones here." __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

07-15-2009, 03:42 PM	#59 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	^ see the problem isn't libertarianism or socialism or conservatism or liberalism or even fascism. the problem is extremism! no one should be a libertarian, socialist etc. that's such a fucking lazy behavior. "i'm going to think in this way for every situation!!!" a more well-reason approach would be assessing each situation and developing a plan of action which aligns with your desired result. since every situation is unique, every situation requires a unique strategy particular to it's unique arrangement of variables i think we could all do well to realize how little we actually think about our actions and we let guide them. that goes for all aspects of life, as individuals and a collective __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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