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Religous ignorance and brainwashing at its finest.
Now my 7 year old brother goes to a jewish private school. I was just sitting with him eating and talking. The TV was on in the background and it was saying something out about Sharon. I was curious as to whether or not they talk about the livelyhood of Israels leader in a religous school. So i'm like "Danny, in school do they talk to about Sharon and whatever it is that's going on with him?" He's like "Yes and when we pray they tell us to pray for him." I Would say something but the kid does not know any better, he's seven. A bit to young to formulate his own opinion on these kinds of things. So I was just like to myself under my breath "oh yes, lets pray to god about it" all sarcastic and exasperated like. My brother hears me and hes like "What?" then I just say if god made him "sick in the first place, why would he decide to make him better?" Because I mean, it had to be god to do such a thing right?
But then my brother says something like "God didnt make him sick!" Oh so I see... when god will do something good for you, you will pray and worship him. But when something bad happens. God isnt to blame! No way jose! GOD?! Ugh. Disgusting
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They would be praying for him despite who he is out of compassion, hoping that the Lord will give him favour and help him through his trials. I don't see where thats so hard to see.
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heh, damn dude, you're a dick. putting off your spiritual uncertainties on your brother?
you want to scare him more by asking him fucked up questions? he's only 7. just teach him that its better not to be religious or whatever. except jews seem to be pretty well grounded in their spirituality. far more than christians who are like OUT there. he's 7. if you want to form a young mind don't fuck him up like religion does. |
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I have another story about religious manipulation. My mother grew up in a small community which was pentacostal dominated, they were not allowed to have a television until the pastor got one, it was ok then. Girls/women could not wear jeans until the pastor's daughter started wearing them, women could not wear make up until the pastor's wife started wearing it. Every month the congregation had to give a tithe to the curch and times had to go without basic necessaties, anyone here familar with this religion?
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This shit makes me sick. I hate how they exploit a child's dependancy on it's parents and it's vulnerability. To take advantage of a mind at such a beautiful yet fragile state is just disgusting imo, and probably my biggest thing against religion... fuck it, against humanity in general. I HATE HOW WE TREAT CHILDREN. And people wonder wtf is wrong with todays youth... unfuckingbelievable. .. ITS YOU YOU STUPID FUCKS. YOU'RE WHATS WRONG WITH TODAYS YOUTH.
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im strongly against organized religion, but for young children i think nothing is better
there not smart enough to fully grasp the concepts and all they manage to understand are basic and healpful day to day good behaviour, positive thinking, good outlook on life once hes old enough to truly begin to think for himself he will have already learned all the right things and will start to question the theories and stories with holes in them
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No for the people that are saying he needs to change the kids opinion for him and don't let him listen to others. You're looking at it all wrong.
Look at it this way, when you were little if you used to go to church or anything do you even remember any specific thing you did that made you form your opinion? The age kids form there own opinions is not when they mature or anything. It's when you educate them and don't even tell them your own opinion. Just educate the kid on FACTS do NOT lie and just nothing but 100% true facts. After that he will form his own opinion, so at his school they could be lieing to him for all we know or they are telling him to look at it this way. All you need to do is find out what they are teaching him and if it's true facts... Maybe he already made his own opinion and you need to respect that. Just find out weather they are liing to him or not. Just like him you need to learn before you talk to him about it cause he's just like you. After all he is your little bro dude. p.s. How old are you? |
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Of course there's something better. Don't impress an idea on them, teach them that they're their own person, they're the ultimate authority in their life. It's the truth. They have to live their life, come into contact with all the experiences. What you gotta do is establish that you're there for them, supporting them. Take what you learned from your experience through life and give them the tools that help them in that contact. To stay open minded, but be skeptic always. Don't always accept, etc. Answer their questions. You want your child to be on the same level as you so they can feel free to talk to you about things. Not fear some sort of authority and anger. The child's dependant on the parent to make conscious choices for it during its early stages of development, true. Those choices should be made to develope a sense of individual and independance and also encourage a strong relationship in the family. You give them a foundation to stand on and build from. In building that foundation you choose the material, hostically things like alcoholism, abuse, religion, etc, haven't been the greatest.
Really, it's all about exposure. Input stimuli. If all the kid knows is one thing, that's all they can build from. You have to give them something they can use in EVERY situation. Not just a few.
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I believe inner strength is the most important lesson that a child can be taught. If it is by means of religion, or parenting so be it.
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GOD MADE EVERYTHING.
Except stuff that contradicts me beliefs. God didn't make that stuff. That came from.......uh...un.. ..God...places...
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Its like the same reason that my friend who is a major bigot and sure of every thing the bible says, except the part about gay people. I asked him why. He said he has a gay uncle and thinks he's a good guy. I think alot of bigotry and ignorance comes from under or no exposure to anything different, conversely, acceptence comes from the opposite. My friend is okay with that one thing becuase he has been exposed. Good for him though. Sorry if this is off topic from the origonal topic. Peace.Love.Sage.
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"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
Friedrich Nietzsche, The Dawn, Sec. 297
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