What Insights has LSD brought to you....? - Page 2

vanilla · 01-12-2006, 07:26 PM

well why the fuck not, whats the huge difference ?? there both psychedelics that produce similar effects... clue me in

Edit · 01-12-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vanilla

well why the fuck not, whats the huge difference ?? there both psychedelics that produce similar effects... clue me in

thats like comparing pot that makes you slow and sluggish, to alcohol.

Similar, yet a world apart..

jag8 · 01-12-2006, 07:32 PM

coke and caffine are both Stimulants. but guess what, there pretty fuckin different.

just because 2 drugs are classified the same doesnt make them the same at all.

Edit · 01-12-2006, 07:34 PM

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jag8 · 01-12-2006, 07:38 PM

my bad. you posted like a second before i did.

ColtEtish · 01-12-2006, 08:05 PM

It taught me that if you poke at it, it just pokes back 10 times harder...if that makes sense. The one and only time I've done it so far it kicked my butt because I took to much and I wasn't ready...it was stupid and irresponsible. Next time maybe it will be more insightful, like shrooms.

Waves · 01-12-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by snapshot182

It made me realize I could think of incredibly complex shit and still come up with some solution, no matter how vague. Like I saw a meta-image of society, and this society was our society, and all of society had these tracks running through it, and like the magnetic balls on a string that bounce off on another, every action we have has an effect on others, and you can always follow the path if you pay attention. And you can choose any path you want as long as you keep it positive. Being begative can have a crippling effect and can bounce back.

hah thats awesome...spirals...

The Second Law of Thermodynamics · 01-14-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Edit

thats like comparing pot that makes you slow and sluggish, to alcohol.

Similar, yet a world apart..

first of all, no it isn't. alcohol and pot are different classes of drugs while shrooms and lsd are the same class. secondly, what difference does it make if they are different? why shouldn't he post what he learned anyway? id certainly like to hear it.

Sativa · 01-14-2006, 11:18 PM

It taught me that I can lead a better life without pride or ego.

effervescence · 01-15-2006, 05:13 PM

Tripping has taught me the fact that my priorities aren't really straight. That I don't pay enough attention to the people who love me (my family, my mom), and that I should show more emotion when I interact with them and with strangers. This was the main reason I was depressed about my ex for so long...I was thinking about her wanting her back, wanting her love back, when I have all the love at my disposal right there all along -- my parents, my family, people around me, and the earth itself and the incomprehensible beauty it allows us to inhabit and manipulate as we wish.

That everyone in the world is also a human being with a whole lifetime full of stories that are completely unique and worth listening to. Everyone is a vast database of unique experiental and knowledgable information, with their unique persona applied to every aspect of what's in their heads.

To be more compassionate, empathic, sympathetic toward others....I think psychedelics really just tell me to be a better person, and to not judge or have prejudices, and follow what you truly believe in.

They also made reality a lot less real. That I really don't trust what goes on in my life as "real" anymore...just an experience in a single frame among no frames without definition that is simply an ever-dynamic united, interactive mass.

I would explain I am sort of solipsist, pantheistic, and BOTH existentialist and nihilistic (although that may sound contradictory, the way I view things makes it work). That although nothing has an absolute value/meaning, there is a direct integration of every single action and change which causes a varying level of significance among whatever may be perceiving the change or action, but absolutely none (no meaning/significance) to the "dead" mass of which we (being every and all things) comprise. We're all automatic. There is no free will....but there's nothing wrong with that, except some people are uncomfortable with believing there is no free will. If there is or isn't, it wouldn't matter either way.

I also see that it doesn't matter WHAT you believe in, however you go about things, because no matter what we do we won't be inside another person's head. Each and every individual lives their own "dream", floats about in their own molded reality, and whatever allows you to feel comfortable in your reality is perfectly acceptable (so yes, that means all religions are neither "wrong" nor "right", though that is to ME. to another person their belief may be that I (me personally) am "wrong" and that my belief about such is completely wrong. That is OK).

Tripping also allowed me to appreciate certain things a LOT more, but it also had some negative effects: I'm a bit spaced out, my memory is extremely horrible, and I'm a lot more "ADD" than I used to be (although this is debatable) and I live too much in the present and have compromised some planning and forethought skills.

Honestly, tripping has never really shown me things I haven't thought about already, just made me experience the feelings that go with my personal philosophies so I actually go into action about the things I think about, and not just figure they're fantasy all the time.

I think tripping doesn't teach you shit, it's just testing you to see if you're taking in what you're receiving, and applying it or not.

But yeah I dont think my post counts becasue I've never taken LSD before, only mushrooms.

Hooked · 01-15-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Second Law of Thermodynamics

first of all, no it isn't. alcohol and pot are different classes of drugs while shrooms and lsd are the same class. secondly, what difference does it make if they are different? why shouldn't he post what he learned anyway? id certainly like to hear it.

It's called title of thread, fuckhead. If you think pscilocybin or pscilocyn are even remotely the same experience as LSD it's quite obvious you've never done both.

And if we're going to nitpick, both THC and alcohol are generally classified as central nervous system depressants. Cannabinoids may have some psychedelic properties, but they both depress the functions of the CNS. And that's how we determine what drugs are: how they affect the nervous system.

please drive through

hazeD · 01-15-2006, 08:02 PM

Ive used lsd several times in the past two to three months and I think it hasnt really shown me much of anything. Ive thought about alot of shit on it but nothing too life changing.. basically just tripping watching the walls breathe for 24 hours then taking sleeping med to even be able to think about sleep.

vanilla · 01-15-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooked

It's called title of thread, fuckhead. If you think pscilocybin or pscilocyn are even remotely the same experience as LSD it's quite obvious you've never done both.

And if we're going to nitpick, both THC and alcohol are generally classified as central nervous system depressants. Cannabinoids may have some psychedelic properties, but they both depress the functions of the CNS. And that's how we determine what drugs are: how they affect the nervous system.

please drive through

well theres really no need for that... in the end i didnt post anything because it asked for LSD only, in light of hoffman's b day
but well, any who knows anything knows that psilocybin and LSD, whose main intoxicant vary in molecular structure, they are SIMILAR PSYCHEDELICS
relax

Hooked · 01-15-2006, 10:02 PM

No I won't relax. My post wasn't directed at you anyway.

The 'headspace,' which is where one derives INSIGHT, is completely different. Therefore, trying to compare insights derived in the two separate headspaces may be interesting, but it's not very useful.

Acid is alien.

Sativa · 01-16-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hazeD

Ive used lsd several times in the past two to three months and I think it hasnt really shown me much of anything. Ive thought about alot of shit on it but nothing too life changing.. basically just tripping watching the walls breathe for 24 hours then taking sleeping med to even be able to think about sleep.

Once you are over the "Holy SHITZORZ I'm TRIPPIN FACE" effects of it, some of the more beneficial properties may show themselves. The messenger will come for you when SHE thinks you are ready, not when you think you are ready.

birdforbrain · 01-17-2006, 04:41 PM

lsd made me realize that honesty is the best policy. heh. if i'm not honest with myself and the people around me, it's going to be more awkward than it should be... i knew this before taking lsd, but it's a lot harder to not pay attention to awkard feelings on lsd.

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Originally Posted by Sativa

Once you are over the "Holy SHITZORZ I'm TRIPPIN FACE" effects of it, some of the more beneficial properties may show themselves. The messenger will come for you when SHE thinks you are ready, not when you think you are ready.

what's up with capitalizing "she"?

K10 · 01-17-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sativa

Once you are over the "Holy SHITZORZ I'm TRIPPIN FACE" effects of it, some of the more beneficial properties may show themselves. The messenger will come for you when SHE thinks you are ready, not when you think you are ready.

Exactly, I had to trip several times before I encountered the more beneficial properties. Probably, my 4th time tripping or so, I took 3 hits and was completely blown away. I was having full blown visual and auditory hallucinations. These sort of external effects were cool, but I was much more overwhelmed by the thoughts and memories rushing through my head. My mind was shot for days after the experience just because I had so much to dig through in my head after it was all said and done. I made some really important decisions during that trip that I had been procrastinating for far too long and actually stuck with. It was a complete spiritual experience. Sometimes it just takes a while to have an acid trip of that magnitude.

Sir-Ex · 01-17-2006, 05:28 PM

I've tripped... around 40 times I guess.

Haven't learned a thing.

Sativa · 01-17-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir-Ex

I've tripped... around 40 times I guess.

Haven't learned a thing.

You do write an entertaining trip report.

"I was so thirsty I considered drinking from the dogs bowl"

and something to the effect of slinking like asnake down the cellar stairs to aviod your father after a night of tripping.

Sativa · 01-17-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by birdforbrain

lsd made me realize that honesty is the best policy. heh. if i'm not honest with myself and the people around me, it's going to be more awkward than it should be... i knew this before taking lsd, but it's a lot harder to not pay attention to awkard feelings on lsd.

what's up with capitalizing "she"?

emphasising that enightenment is not a choice, you are chosen and I've never heard a man sing so so sweet as her sirens song.

01-12-2006, 07:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
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effervescence the Echidna Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: newark Posts: 2,825 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Tripping has taught me the fact that my priorities aren't really straight. That I don't pay enough attention to the people who love me (my family, my mom), and that I should show more emotion when I interact with them and with strangers. This was the main reason I was depressed about my ex for so long...I was thinking about her wanting her back, wanting her love back, when I have all the love at my disposal right there all along -- my parents, my family, people around me, and the earth itself and the incomprehensible beauty it allows us to inhabit and manipulate as we wish. That everyone in the world is also a human being with a whole lifetime full of stories that are completely unique and worth listening to. Everyone is a vast database of unique experiental and knowledgable information, with their unique persona applied to every aspect of what's in their heads. To be more compassionate, empathic, sympathetic toward others....I think psychedelics really just tell me to be a better person, and to not judge or have prejudices, and follow what you truly believe in. They also made reality a lot less real. That I really don't trust what goes on in my life as "real" anymore...just an experience in a single frame among no frames without definition that is simply an ever-dynamic united, interactive mass. I would explain I am sort of solipsist, pantheistic, and BOTH existentialist and nihilistic (although that may sound contradictory, the way I view things makes it work). That although nothing has an absolute value/meaning, there is a direct integration of every single action and change which causes a varying level of significance among whatever may be perceiving the change or action, but absolutely none (no meaning/significance) to the "dead" mass of which we (being every and all things) comprise. We're all automatic. There is no free will....but there's nothing wrong with that, except some people are uncomfortable with believing there is no free will. If there is or isn't, it wouldn't matter either way. I also see that it doesn't matter WHAT you believe in, however you go about things, because no matter what we do we won't be inside another person's head. Each and every individual lives their own "dream", floats about in their own molded reality, and whatever allows you to feel comfortable in your reality is perfectly acceptable (so yes, that means all religions are neither "wrong" nor "right", though that is to ME. to another person their belief may be that I (me personally) am "wrong" and that my belief about such is completely wrong. That is OK). Tripping also allowed me to appreciate certain things a LOT more, but it also had some negative effects: I'm a bit spaced out, my memory is extremely horrible, and I'm a lot more "ADD" than I used to be (although this is debatable) and I live too much in the present and have compromised some planning and forethought skills. Honestly, tripping has never really shown me things I haven't thought about already, just made me experience the feelings that go with my personal philosophies so I actually go into action about the things I think about, and not just figure they're fantasy all the time. I think tripping doesn't teach you shit, it's just testing you to see if you're taking in what you're receiving, and applying it or not. But yeah I dont think my post counts becasue I've never taken LSD before, only mushrooms. __________________ "...it is a strange world, a sad world, a world full of miseries, and woes, and troubles. And yet when King Laugh come, he make them all dance to the tune he play." ~ Abraham Van Helsing

01-15-2006, 10:02 PM	#34 (permalink)
Hooked Hedonistic fool Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Denver Metro Posts: 5,479 Thanks: 22 Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts	No I won't relax. My post wasn't directed at you anyway. The 'headspace,' which is where one derives INSIGHT, is completely different. Therefore, trying to compare insights derived in the two separate headspaces may be interesting, but it's not very useful. Acid is alien. __________________ The never-ending quest to find a reason to smile...

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Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 10,465 Thanks: 1,411 Thanked 3,130 Times in 1,873 Posts	I've tripped... around 40 times I guess. Haven't learned a thing. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

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jag8 Drip... Drop.... Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Reno/Tahoe/BRC Posts: 1,222 Thanks: 33 Thanked 47 Times in 34 Posts	coke and caffine are both Stimulants. but guess what, there pretty fuckin different. just because 2 drugs are classified the same doesnt make them the same at all.

01-12-2006, 07:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
jag8 Drip... Drop.... Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Reno/Tahoe/BRC Posts: 1,222 Thanks: 33 Thanked 47 Times in 34 Posts	my bad. you posted like a second before i did.

01-15-2006, 08:02 PM	#32 (permalink)
hazeD Old School Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Central FL Posts: 217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ive used lsd several times in the past two to three months and I think it hasnt really shown me much of anything. Ive thought about alot of shit on it but nothing too life changing.. basically just tripping watching the walls breathe for 24 hours then taking sleeping med to even be able to think about sleep.

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