BionicLungSmoker

there is no sin the bible has been tweaked

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"Our bodies are prisons, for our souls. All flesh decays... death turns all to ash. And thus, death frees every soul."

snapshot

is it really irony if its stupid?

sm0ke42o

Then don’t believe it...

Why bother making a thread about it or trying to convince people you are right? Just believe what you want to believe and STFU about religion/spirituality unless you have something constructive to say about it. I don’t really think Mohammed was all that the Koran makes him out to be but I can’t remember the last time I questioned or conversed about his existence and its purpose. Nor will I trash another religion or their chosen deity simply because I find “it makes absolutely zero fucking sense" as you so intelligently put it. You might ought to try a college degree sometime if you have not already... it will perhaps aid you in being a more well rounded, accepting, individual who has a better understanding of society in general and possibly, quite possibly, you might not look like such a douchebag when you open your mouth.

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deadhead94

What if they weren't actually dead and they were just suffering the effects of lead and alcohol?


Are they still jesus?

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sm0ke42o

^ yea cause you know they had to be tipping back O.E.'s for weeks after the crucifixion... I mean it was the son of god. Gotta pour a full one for that passing. lol

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SageTree

God trusting his imperfect creation to pass the words on for 1500 before one word was writen down in the old testament, 40-50 yrs after the life of Jesus, the Disciples to correctly hear the word of God, and then Generations of Monks to make sure that all the " perfect Godly word" into text, and then King James who made sure we got what God wanted us to hear. Thats too much room for error, more power to anyone who can believe that. I have a concept of what God is to me, but I think I'm still allowed to "talk" with "god" becuase that force didn't stop talking over 2000 yrs ago, to a bunch of people I"m supposed to trust.

Sorry if that alittle synical. I think people should believe what they want, but I think modern day christianity, since that is the topic, could use some serious adjusting of priority. Too much focus on things that only have a handful of scriptures to justify, Anti-gay, anti-drug, pro-war, pro-trinty, and some think even the fact if Jesus was God, even though there are several ways to view if scriturally. Its amazing what you can tell about a person when a bunch of the Emporers cronies decide at a council. What I do know about the bible, is that there are alot of scripture about helping the needy, poor and unspoken for. For me the passage that God will judge the nations based on how they treat the poor, has alot more relevance than " no one shall enter into the kingdom of heaven except through me" What ever Jesus, send me to hell if you even can. I know I'm a good person doing the things that he exhibited, I guess I'll have alot of good friends there....Could he blame me for having doubt about exactness, If he really was reasonable and just I'm sure he would. But all I can be sure of is that he was a man doing good, maybe he got misunderstood. I still pick up the bible and read it, just like the baghivad gita, the Quaran, or any text, I try to read it with beginners mind and not let my tea cup be full, as the old buddhist story goes.

Peace. All who love god all love the same.

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Woods

Don't worry about being too cynical. Someone else will worry about that, and if she doesn't like your post, she'll delete it.

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Kishar steals his aunt's morphine patches because he has the moral sense of George Bush

Prisons are built with stones of Law. Brothels with bricks of religion.

Woods

There was nothing new or unique about jesus or any of his followers. Just another brand of judaism. It only became popular because is happened to be picked up by a group of vicious savages that brutally subjugated a huge area of the world, and forced their beliefs on others through rape, murder, and torture.

That was better then anything you've said here, because it's true, so you delete it. I don't know whether you're funny, or just sad.

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Kishar steals his aunt's morphine patches because he has the moral sense of George Bush

Prisons are built with stones of Law. Brothels with bricks of religion.

SageTree

Did I miss something?

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Flowerchild

A recent painting by John Mellencamp

Waves

If someone puts on an easter bunny costume and i write a book stating he is the easter bunny, will you believe hes the real easter bunny?

you say you believe in more than words? what other than words do you have to support your beliefs? jesus' story is just that, a bunch of words. you dont know what was going on 2000 years ago in jerusalem. all you have is the bible, and other people who have read the bible. thats it. why would you build your whole belief system on what is in a wider sense simply a political pamphlet thats been around way too long?

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Sugar420

^sandman we should love waves and pray for him, and if he tries to bring anyone down, let us try to lift him up


woods sweetheart i think you are a little confused. you posted that in a different thread
http://www.yahooka.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98217
i didnt delete it
the truth is that anyone who participates in brutal subjugation, rape, murder and torture is not a follower of Jesus.

Waves

answer my question. and why would you say i have a shitty life? my life fucking rocks man

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Waves

hey sandman, check out this bit of truth:

The truth about Jesus is that he was a human being who lived and died as every person born ever has. Jesus was most likely born in Nazareth of the Galilee and certainly was raised there. He was a Jewish wisdom teacher and exorcist/healer who lived in the Galilee province of the Roman Empire between 4 BCE (before the Common Era) and 30 CE. His mother was known as Mary. His father was likely Joseph.

The truth about Jesus is that he never intended to start a church or a new religion. He did not understand himself to be the divine Son of God; rather, he saw himself as the “Son of [hu]Man[ity]” or an “average Joe.” Not only did he not start a church, he joined the reform movement of John the Baptizer (aka John the Baptist), who was a popular and charismatic Jewish prophet.

Every christian, especially catholics, lutherans, etc should read this: http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/200512_jesus/

There will come a day when every christian realizes his or her beliefs they have had since childhood are wrong. It can be when you die, or it can be TODAY. its up to you.

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birdforbrain

i read this book called "jesus died in kashmir," and it tells about how a healthy man of jesus's age would not have died on the cross in the amount of time he was there. how pontius pilot supposedly let jesus go, as long as he got out of town. it talks about how jesus moved to india and started a family...

i mean, i don't know... i'm not that big on religion, and didn't put too much tiime into my research... i'm not knocking what people want jesus to be or anything. i bet he was a badass righteous dude, whether he died on a cross or not.

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birdforbrain

this is cool... i didn't see this when i just posted.

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Waves

This is exactly what i mean.

If two christians cant agree on something as basic as "what to do when someone questions your beliefs" how are you supposed to agree on ANYTHING?

beliefs are yours and yours only.

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Sugar420

dont be silly. of course sandman agrees with me, he just forgot for a moment

Waves

id love to hear him say that.

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snapshot

If you wanna talk about Jesus I suggest you put up a disclaimer banning any talk of christianity expect off-handed remarks questioning don't-cha-know type of trivia.

i can't stay mad at you....