stateofkane

When people claim that cannabis is addictive, most are not making the claim that it is physically addictive.

Cannabis is addictive in the psychological sense in the same manner that nicotine or alcohol can be addictive psychologically. Both alcohol and tobacco are more physically addictive than cannabis, but no scientific evidence has supported that cannabis is less addictive psychologically than alcohol.

If anyone has evidence to support this I would like to see a link to it. I believe that marijuana is addictive and should not qualify for legalization any more than any other illegal drug.

SublimeStylez

yeah its psychologically addictive, however everything can be addictive, just depends on who you are. Ever seen obese people? addicted to food, psychological.

Determining whether or not a drug should be illegal shouldn't be based on its addictive qualities, is ridiculous. The reprecussions of smoking bud are far less then most of the other drugs out there.

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verklingen

so you're saying alcohol and nicotine ought to be illegal? you're going to decide that you can make better choices for everyone than they themselves can, determine what choices you consider harmful and prevent them from making them by force? what gives you that authority? why not force circumcision on all baby boys, or force abortions on teen girls? this is a ridiculous argument. why can't people be left to their own decisions?

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Shamrock910

Wow this is good timing. You see I started smoking when I was 14, I am now 25. I smoke at LEAST a half ounce per day since I was 19 and moved out of my parents house. Also, I started smoking cigarettes when I was 16. That's two years longer I have smoked bud, so from you are sayin I should be just as addicted to weed as I am cigarettes.

Now to the point, I just quit 3 days ago so I can get a better job. I havn't had one single second where I thought. "Fuuuuuck I need some bud". It has been a cake walk, granted it's only been three days. But I have tried to quit smoking cigarettes many, many, many times. ALWAYS within a few hours of not having a cigarette I turn into a major asshole, all I can think about is a cigarette. WITHIN a FEW HOURS. If what you said was true, the same thing would be true for weed. But as I said, three days and I have had no problems. Oh, and that is WITH being around my friends smoking, it still hasn't bothered me.

If somebody say's they are addicted to weed, then they PROBABLY just have difficulty in coping with reality. Maybe they have shit for a life so they have to be stoned just to deal with it. That, or they are just fuckin stupid.

the-who?

a half ounce is an obscene amount to smoke on a daily basis..

honestly a half o could last me weeks and I smoke too much.

If you've been smoking a half o a day for 6 years, you're addicted to weed. As addicted as weed addictions go.

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aft3rsh0kk

for real, a half zip a day, and then stop? and no feelings of wanting to smoke, i call bs on that

shit it takes me a week to go through a quarter of dank, and when i take a break, its hell

lack of sleep, fucked up sleep when i get some, not being able to eat, goes away after a week tho, and back to normal

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SpankyMcLankey

When I'm into my heaviest weeks, I usually try to stay high, not get really high. I smoke a half-bowl usually at lunch, then after school, then at night. 1.5 bowls a day max. This is of course, by myself.

The hardest I've ever gone smoking was with 3 buddies of mine, we went through an ounce a week for 2 weeks. I'm about to buy a zip within the next couple days, I expect it to last me at least a month and a half. (vacuum container)

I don't even think a half-o a day is possible, unless your career is to smoke a half-oz. a day.

superstoned1

Marijuana is not addictive. Your body craves it just like you crave sex after a while or a nice big mac (or anything pleasureable), but it does not need it, as heroin, crystal meth or alcohol, where withdrawal sets in if you stop.

Atmost, if you're a heavy user you might experience a slight psychological addiction with marginal withdrawal symptoms.

The key is moderation and being responsible. The more responsibility we have with it the quicker it gets legalized. Ultimately the choice should be up to the individual.

Shamrock910

Did i say i had no feelings of wanting to smoke?? Of course I do. "WANTING" being the key word. Not needing. And I am with ya on the sleeping part, but that in no way constitutes being addicted. Your body is simply used to having help when it's time for sleep. It's a change, something you have to get used to. Does not mean you are addicted.

And as far as all this bullshit about it being impossible to smoke a half o a day, and calling BS on me. You gotta remember I live in Texas, about 99% of the shit here is shwag. It's hard than a mother fucker to find some dank, and when you can it's expensive as hell.

How the fuck is it impossible to smoke that much a day?? Get a fuckin tolerance if you don't think so. That or start smokin BS shwag. Trust me, i wish I could get good shit. Texas blows when it comes to weed, although it is cheap as hell.

Oh and smoking that much doesn't mean your addicted. I just love weed. I love to be high, I love the way it tastes, I love the way it smells. If I was addicted, i couldn't go this three days without feining(sp?), sorry.

I hate when people who have no clue wtf they are talking about try to make other people look stupid simply because they are ignorant on the subject.

the-who?

ew a half o of schwag a day.. I'd figure if you were that into weed, you would have gotten there through smoking good bud, thus heightening your appreciation for the herb, and leading to your half o minimum daily smoke rituals.. But if all you can get is regs....

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SpankyMcLankey

This is the way I think of addiction to weed...


If you were to get into a daily habbit of overloading your dopamine recpetors with synthetic dopamine.(THC) Then you will be used to that. Once you stop, you will obviously be depressed because you aren't getting as much dopamine as you are used to.

So in which case, ANY ONE would get addicted to it. This would happen with any one, it's only natural.


If you can't control it, you shouldn't be doing it.

stateofkane- Is that you in your avatar? That's a god awful picture. Are you like spacing on herroin and drooling or something?

Pure Blood

I quite on and off just to see what the effects are and every time i do its the same (for me at lest) I have a day or two where i wish i had a nice fat bong to smoke, but i get over it and move on after that. Never had any times where it was like I NEED SOME SMOKE! lol i think it all depends on the individual. Theirs no way to prove weather you are going to feel addicted unless you smoke and stop. I stop now about once every two months for a week to reset my tolerance level. Its what works for me, everyone should know what it will do to them.

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SpankyMcLankey

Lately I've been going on and off every other week for the two months. It's really working out well.

cantSEEme

well said, fellas.

lets also not forget about caffiene too. its both psychologicaly AND physically addicting. its destructive to your internal organs over time aswell. and really, anything can be addicting. masturbation can be addicting. tattooing can be addicting. lifting wieghts can be addicting. by kanes ass-backwards logic, all that shit should be illegal too, you know, because big bro. knows best when it comes to us confused, stupid citizens.

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aft3rsh0kk

o.

i thought we was talking about dank in here

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cantSEEme

no shit. you missed the point.

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stateofkane

I didn't say what should be legal. I just said that marijuana is addictive psychologically. Shopping, sex, and food addictions are not in the same category as drug addictions. You can debate those addictions all night, but marijuana is a drug and it happens to be addictive or "habit forming."

stateofkane

A heavy user who quits abruptly can experience more than "slight psychological addiction". This is an abstract term anyways. Every user is different and some people who quit excessive alcohol consumption abruptly will only experience mild withdrawal. I've seen cases of both good and bad.

I wanted to see if anyone had a link to evidence that supports marijuana is less addictive than alcohol. Not one link has been presented because there is no proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

SpankyMcLankey

I don't think it's that, so much as not many creaditable people would think of something like that.



No one, even the government relates, marijuana to alcohol.

No one creaditable, that's worth linking for proof, would do such an "experiment." Besides, no one's tried pulling the "Weedaholicism is in your genes." Unlike alcohol....



Notice the (dot) gov. That means that it's creaditable, weren't you guys taught that in school? Sure it's habbit forming, and like I said previously... If you can't control it, and it actually effects your life, you shouldn't be doing it. Ok, it's habbit forming. Now stfu.

If you can find a (dot) gov website that compares marijuana directly with alcohol, IN ANY WAY. I will paypal you $10.

cantSEEme

um, i could present you TONS of links stating that marijuana is less psychologically addictive than alcohol. but most, if not all the sites, will be pro-marijuana organizations, not government sites. i could also post a lot of links stating that marijuana is addicting, but they will all be from anti-marijuana sites. there is no conclusive data out there from the government, because they wont do "official" tests on that subject. and anytime there are tests done on cannabis by "third-party" studies, they allways fly in the face of the governments anti-marijuana agenda. so the above quote and your original post, sir, is moot. hell, you even said it yourself..

maybe it's because the government/dea/drug war toilet doesnt want the FACTS released on that subject, hmmm? maybe it helps their cause more to have ppl who obviously never smoked it before continue to think that cannabis is just as mentally and physically addictive as heroin, or meth, or cocaine.

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