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Old 01-25-2009, 10:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Heavy smoking is dangerous for the fetus. However reasonable / light smoking 2 or 3 joints a day max, can be ok.

If the smoking reduces stress this can counter balance any toxic effects. Stress is one of the most dangerous things in pregnency
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Heavy smoking is dangerous for the fetus. However reasonable / light smoking 2 or 3 joints a day max, can be ok.
AND/OR you can always vap or eat it and eliminate the smoke altogether.
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Old 01-25-2009, 11:16 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The studies are biased and full of lies ('above the influence' anyone?? )...yes, it absolutely matters if it's American. Saying "babies are babies" is completely missing my entire point.

Take the time to compare American studies (the few there are on MJ and it's effects) vs. studies done around the world...The US's always reflects the glaring opposite of the rest of the worlds and are blatenly one sided.
Yes, The U.S. government doles out hundreds of millions of dollars worth of research grants through its National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA). According to NIDA's website, the agency "supports over 85 percent of the world's research on all drugs of abuse." Which studies get funded by NIDA, and which do not, constructs the landscape of our scientific knowledge with regard drugs. NIDA tends not to support research whose conclusions may run counter to their politically-driven agenda.

I'm sure they regret ever funding this research and you can be sure they'll never fund research in the area of pre-natal cannabis exposure ever again.
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Here's a little tidbit I found about NIDA:


Open Source Becomes Open Sore For NIDA
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Posted in Speakeasy Main by Scott Morgan on Fri, 01/26/2007 - 4:56pm

Wikipedia has accused the National Institute on Drug Abuse of "vandalism" following repeated attempts by NIDA staff to alter the organization's wikipedia entry.

As with any controversial subject, NIDA's wikipedia page has frequently included links to sources that expose NIDA's penchant for quackery and junk science. Of course, wikipedia is a user-maintained encyclopedia that permits readers to add relevant information at their discretion. NIDA's attempted censorship reveals a failure to comprehend the spirit of wikipedia or the tenacity of its users.

DrugWarRant has links to the various disputed wiki pages. And my terrifying encounter with NIDA director Dr. Nora Volkow is detailed here.

Ultimately, this is just another case of bizarre drug warrior behavior that, though vexing, is preferable to what they'd otherwise be doing with their time. Indeed, I'd rather they occupy themselves vandalizing wikipedia than vandalizing the scientific method.

Predictably, this latest attempt at drug war censorship has utterly backfired.
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My understanding is that there has been no credible evidence of any Fetal THC syndrome,

But the act of smoking something can contribute to the lower birth weight, and various other conditions such as eczema.

That being said, stress has been strongly correlated to various pre and post natal disorders, inc miscarriage.

In fact, doctors (at least here in NZ) will encourage a mother who smokes (Cig's) to cut down if stopping completely is too stressful.

In conclusion, i think it will be fine to have a puff every now and then, IF you require it for stress of morning sickness ect,

BUT in no way would i condone heavy abusive smoking - there are other ways to relieve your stress such as exercise, natural therapies such as homeopathic remedies and time out to enjoy your favorite activities
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I sure as hell hope you don't live in Texas:

Mother Sentenced On Felony Drug Delivery Charges For Smoking Pot While Pregnant


June 17, 2004 - Amarillo, TX, USA

Amarillo, Texas: A judge last week sentenced a mother on felony charges of "delivering marijuana to a minor" after she admitted that she had occasionally smoked marijuana to combat symptoms associated with morning sickness. The mother is the first woman to be prosecuted under the law for smoking pot while pregnant, according to a news report in the Amarillo-Globe News.

The defendant, Alma Baker, 35, had recently given birth to twins, both of whom tested positive for the presence of marijuana after they were born.

Delivery of a controlled substance to a minor is a second-degree felony punishable by two to 20 years in prison. Baker was sentenced Friday to five years of deferred adjudication and ordered to pay a $1,000 fine. She could be ordered to serve the full jail term if she does not complete community supervision, the Amarillo-Globe News reported.


Of course if she had been caught smoking cigarettes. . .
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Ugh. This is actually starting to annoy me :/...I can't log into my medical journal subscriptions...and I'm thinking it may because I'm not enrolled in a med/psych class this semester (and if thats the case I'm going to be hella pissed)..
Anywayyyy, if I ever get this sussed out, I'll try and find some articles for y'all.
While I understand that you guys are right and I am wrong, I'm really interested in seeing actual studies on it. Hmph.
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i cant believe that lady in Texas!
how stuck up that judge was.. s/he needs a fucking joint to calm herself.
i don't think a 5 year sentence is reasonable considering i know people who have crack babies and don't even go to jail.. just get there kids taken away.
thank you all for ur help
and i think ill probably only smoke once a week IF needed.. for stress//nausea//pain ext. But for the most part... i don't think i will. But 2 puffs here n there,, i don't think that will harm my baby to a point where its lower birth weight (considering ill probably eat like a mofo) and cause it to be slower and stuff...
if it does ill feel ultra bad

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wow.
well if i didn't have any support,
if the father was a jerk off
and i wasn't about to end school
then yeah maybe i would think about getting an abortion
but i have MUCH support, i have an amazing baby daddy that I've been with for 3 years
and I've defiantly thought about it..
but to me.. with everything the way it is,, it would be a method of birth control,, which is not a good reason to get an abortion.
yes it was a mistake.. condom broke
but i mean i believe that it has happened for a reason,,
i do not see this as a bad thing what so ever,,

also. i don't appreciate you telling me that if i smoke weed it will make my baby retarded.. for one, retarded is NOT a word used in today's age for people who are mentally slow or disabled and for two, i smoked weed everyday for 15 days after I had sex because i didn't know i was pregnant. And yes.. if my baby comes our slow because of that,, i will deffinalty feel horrible.

i have completely stopped.
and for smoking weed everyday for a year n a half to absolutely nothing... I think I deserve some respect for that.
&& have you looked up stress and pregnancy? stress is a way worse scenario then smoking ever has been in any research done.
my mom smoked half a pack a day when she was prego with me and i have absolutely no health problems. and cigarettes are defiantly worse then weed...
anyways, i honestly don't think 2 puffs a week is going to affect my baby,,
and i really don't even think i will do that.
but if I'm throwing up and in pain and stressed out and just need to chill
I'm gonna take a couple puffs off a joint to calm myself...
but as a last resource of course.

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Old 01-26-2009, 12:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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ok so...i didnt read every post in here so u may have allready said but how late are you and have u done a home test yet?? i was in the exact same situation when i was 17 but i got a plan b pill. My mom smoked like every day for the first month or so with me cuz she didnt know she was pregz. it is my opinion that its not GOOD to smoke while your "with child" but i dont think it does too much harm.
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n e ways, yeah. i've done fucking 5 tests.. 3 docs.. 2 home, and to be honest they all came out negative.
but i'm 3 days late.. and ive been having ALL the symtoms.. i am really postive i am.
i also have a Ultra sound appt tomorrow.
hopefully it shows me something

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ok if you have taken all of these tests and they are all negatory...AND u went to doctors, your fine. your only 3 days late, your cycle is prolly just changing. dont freak out abt it till your like 2 weeks late.
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No, first of all, you don't know she's not pregnant...so saying she's fine is a bit presumptuous. Know what kind of pee test the dr. gives you? The ones you by at any store. So, she could be reading neg all over but it's because it's still too soon to tell in urine tests, even by a Dr...hence why they scheduled her for an ultrasound. It's obviously still a possibility, even though slim. AND, she knows her body, if she feels she may be...she would know.

Were your tests at the Dr. pee tests? Or blood tests?
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thanks for defending me
cause i am very sure about this.
i never miss my period. and its very regular
see i had 2 tests even before i missed my period because i was having all the symptoms and stuff. and then the 3 after have all came out negative.. but ive done lots of research and it is very possible the the HCG hormone is just not detective yet. Some girls it takes up to 2 weeks to detect it.. depends on when it was fertilized and when it implanted.

but i have been very anxious to find out.
and I do need to calm myself lol.
&& im scared cause of that theory that if u think ur pregnat you can get all the symtoms// but i was getting symptoms even before i thought i was.. they have just been getting worse.

and only pee tests.. if nothing shows up on the ultra sound tomorrow, and i still don't get my period.. blood test on friday!
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I knew that I had already addressed this debate at least once on Yahooka. Instead of reiterating, I'll just point you all to this post

http://www.yahooka.com/forum/cannabi...l#post51609015

'Twas a good thread.
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thanks for defending me
cause i am very sure about this.
i never miss my period. and its very regular
see i had 2 tests even before i missed my period because i was having all the symptoms and stuff. and then the 3 after have all came out negative.. but ive done lots of research and it is very possible the the HCG hormone is just not detective yet. Some girls it takes up to 2 weeks to detect it.. depends on when it was fertilized and when it implanted.

but i have been very anxious to find out.
and I do need to calm myself lol.
&& im scared cause of that theory that if u think ur pregnat you can get all the symtoms// but i was getting symptoms even before i thought i was.. they have just been getting worse.

and only pee tests.. if nothing shows up on the ultra sound tomorrow, and i still don't get my period.. blood test on friday!

I wish you the best of luck.
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Thanks WildWill for that, defiantly interesting.
and thanks Blue Dolphin = ) much appreciated
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I would certainly not worry about the weed you smoked during the first 15 days of your pregnancy. However, if you're worried about it, you could quit for the rest of the pregnancy. Kinda an 'up to you' thing. My personal opinion is that I'd be more worried about the laws in regard to children. That's the main reason I stopped. Too much anxiety in having weed around and worrying about getting caught and possibly losing my kids and definitely my job.

Medical Marijuana: A Surprising Solution to Severe Morning Sickness - Salem-News.Com

Mom booked, baby born with marijuana in system | NORML's Daily Audio Stash

as a side note... there's NOTHING more effective for nausea. I used medicinally during both of my pregnancies. Some days I wonder (hehe) but my children have no type of brain damage.
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Cool MJ & yur Preggers...

I have been a smoker of the endo for a long time, now, and I have 3 kids, all almost grown. I remember when I was pregnant with my 1st child, I took a toke from a joint, and my baby kicked up a storm, and got really active inside me. I got really scared, and never indulged again while he was in utero. With my 2nd &3rd preggers, I lost my love for it, due to the fact that to me it smelled like fecal matter on fire, and made me want to vomit every time I smelled it. I also had friends that never stopped indulging in the wacky tobaccy thru their pregnancies. One in particular has 5 children that are seriously problematic. Uncontrollable in school, at home, in public, etc. and their grades are lousy. So I guess the choice is yours, but I would recommend NOT smoking while you are pregnant, I think it will be better for both you and your baby. Besides this time will pass quckly.
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