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ki11a

what the hell does chronic pain have to do with schizo?

read the article you posted, its about 6 years old; and it says more research was needed

but yet you believe every word of it

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badgoalie85

all of this coming from the same guy who claimed that legalizing marijuana wouldn't be good for the economy...

claiming that pot causes schizophrenia is the last beacon of hope for drug war supporters. the problem is that no study anywhere has ever shown that pot CAUSES schizophrenia. all the study says is that people prone to schizophrenia are more likely to show symptoms of it when they smoke.

have you ever heard of cancer? muscular dystrophy? AIDS? marijuana has been shown to be part of an effective treatment program for each of those diseases.

how the hell did you determine that marijuana "hurts more people than it helps"? just because you're a depressed fuck who blames his problems on marijuana and can't use bud responsibly doesn't mean that everyone is that way. most people who use marijuana aren't 'heavy' users and even the ones that are heavy users are, in my experience, just as responsible and healthy as anyone else.

some people shouldn't smoke. hell some people shouldn't take penicillin. that doesn't mean there aren't benefits to be gained from it.

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Bad dog

schizo's enjoy smoking. not so difficult to understand really.

Drugs DO NOT turn normal sane balanced people into raving schizo cases.

However, some people with mental problems may have negative responses to drugs.

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Mafoo

i think the link between cig smoking and schizophrenia has been well established.

this marijuana link however is BS. the moment a researcher uses the word hallucination with respect to pot i stop listening.

a hallucination is a complete replacement of reality not fuzzy vision or eye lag

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FatMan420

Methamphetamine causes psychosis.
Cocaine causes psychosis.
LSD can cause psychosis.
Mescaline can cause psychosis.
Shrooms can cause psychosis.

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Cannabis health risk 'not rising'

By Jim Reed
Newsbeat reporter


Men who take cannabis regularly have a one in 5,000 chance of developing a disease like schizophrenia, according to one of the top drug specialists in the UK.

But Professor David Nutt, who chairs the government's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD), told Newsbeat the risk to mental health from smoking cannabis is no greater than getting drunk.

"We've written three reports and read every paper published for the last 30 years. We do not believe the risks are going up," he said.

"When we look at the evidence, we have seen a huge increase in the use of cannabis but a fall in schizophrenia."

"Alcohol is probably more likely to cause dependence than cannabis.

"It causes brain damage through vitamin deficiency and withdrawal can lead to psychosis. Overall the mental health risks of alcohol and cannabis are not dissimilar."

Mental health impact

The government has upgraded cannabis to a Class B substance this week against the advice of the ACMD, partly because it says there is growing evidence it does damage mental health.

The drug has been closely linked to schizophrenia, an illness which can cause hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions and disorganised speech and thinking.

Twenty-nine-year-old Alec Jacobs from Kent was a heavy cannabis user before developing the disease in his early 20s.

"I was hearing voices and getting anxious and depressed. I think cannabis definitely played a part in doing something to me," he told Newsbeat.

"I was smoking a lot of skunk which I think sent me into a psychosis.

"By the age of 21, I found it hard being around people and I couldn't smoke it anymore because it wasn't doing me any good whatsoever.

"I think there is definitely a lasting effect. I still get depressed and anxious and feel sort of trapped in a way."

But Professor Nutt from the ACMD reckons the link between cannabis use and that kind of severe mental health problem is "probable but weak".

The latest research suggests the government would have to stop 5,000 men and 12,000 women from smoking cannabis to prevent a single case of schizophrenia in both groups.

"Using cannabis will tip a few people over the edge but in terms of most of the population, there isn't really a risk there," he said.

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Flamingnun

That's not that far fetched according to other studies, bearing in mind that even with a sixfold increase you're still only about 0.3% likely to develop schizophrenia.

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K10

Even if marijuana was linked to schizophrenia (it's not) I wouldn't stop smoking it.

Yes, we are biased....this is a pro-marijuana message board.

Just because marijuana goes great with my overall body chemistry doesn't mean it does for everyone and just because you (stateofkane) can't use marijuana like a reasonable person and your massively depressed all of the time doesn't mean everyone has this problem. The end.....stop telling a bunch of potheads on the internet how bad pot is.....we don't care.

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Grieves

state of kane, you don't even smoke, please stop your fear mongering...

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the-who?

what about a form of schizophrenia that materializes in vivid images of naked angelina jolie

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cantSEEme

thanked and qft. its funny how sok reads one article almost a decade old and immediately thinks "omg, troof"! if you want "unbiased" (lol) discussion on this subject go (back) to abovetheinfluence dot com


edit: just relized this thread is months old.

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verklingen

this is truly awful

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