what up guysss help me out!

t4n2wo0 · 08-16-2009, 08:13 AM

my good homie is suffering from depression real bad because he dropped ecstasy too much. anyone know how to recover from that? hes only 17. mabye serotonin pills or vitamins like centrum or some shit lol. plzzzz help out my homies suffering hella bad hes not who he used to be...thanks guys

Mikey · 08-16-2009, 08:14 AM

Well, just tell your homie to lay off the ectasy for a while, like 6 months + or at least a year.

t4n2wo0 · 08-16-2009, 08:17 AM

hes bene off it a couple of months now and its still bad

Mikey · 08-16-2009, 08:20 AM

Maybe he's depressed from something else then.

t4n2wo0 · 08-16-2009, 08:22 AM

no its the ecstasy for sure his e count is over 70 and during the time he was dropping a lot he iddn't take breaks. he can't take like serotonin pills or something?

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-16-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by t4n2wo0

no its the ecstasy for sure his e count is over 70 and during the time he was dropping a lot he iddn't take breaks. he can't take like serotonin pills or something?

WE'RE not Dr.'s man. That's what he needs. A dr. We can't, and won't tell you how your friend should be treated medicinally.

It sounds like it sucks really bad, but he needs help that can't be sought here.

**SageTree** · 08-16-2009, 08:38 AM

Basically that is what I was going to say.

We can support you, supporting him, that is about it.

I have some friends who are f-ed up from too many pills and it's been years. Their lives have changed or atleast are more emotionally driven. The best thing to do it go to a doctor or theropist and learn new ways to cope with a transformed brain.

Sorry to hear about his and your pain with it though dude.

Much love and here's to all the good things happening.

Silverleaf · 08-16-2009, 09:22 AM

Also, given the fact that he's seventeen, it could be that he's just growing up and realizing the world sucks a lot more than we're led to believe when we're young. That always fucks with 'em.

**Mafoo** · 08-16-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by t4n2wo0

no its the ecstasy for sure his e count is over 70 and during the time he was dropping a lot he iddn't take breaks. he can't take like serotonin pills or something?

i dont mean to come across as an asshole, but THERE ISNT ALWAYS A PILL TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS!

there are pills thats claim to help restore serotonin, the only downside is they can lead to heart problems and probably other problems. its known as 5-htp, which is basically serotonin. inside your body, the 5-htp is processed and becomes 5-ht(serotonin). thats good, the only problem is that a large amount of this serotonin is ending up in the blood stream and muscles(like the heart) and not in the synapses in the brain, where your friend would like them to be. the blood serotonin, im not sure by what action, can actually cause the heart to work harder than it should. if your friend takes 5-htp tell him to take the amount that is recomended on the package with good meals, and no alcohol while hes taking the 5-htp.

at age 17, your friend will likely recover naturally if he allows himself a long time to get his body chemisty back in a normal balance. im guessing you drop too, so maybe you can learn from your friends situation and control the way you guys have fun. 17 is super young to be going off the deep end with drugs... have fun and all that but just be smart about it so you can still enjoy life when you're 25

Mydriasis · 08-16-2009, 02:49 PM

L-tyrosine and 5-HTP suppliments are helpful, but if he's damaged his serotonin receptors, it's generally irreversable...

I don't know what to say other than get him analyzed, see how fucked his head is from a cat scan(costs $$$) and see a psychiatrist.

I hope the best for your friend, I hope he's strong enough to perservere this kind of hard-ship. Oh yeah and if he thinks X is the only thing that makes him happy and continues to use it, he will be in for a rude awakening when he can't get high anymore. So make sure he quits doing all drugs. Yes even cannabis until he can get analyzed by some professionals.

Sucks when the party is over, ya know?

Be a good friend to him.

Much love

zoltron · 08-16-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverleaf

Also, given the fact that he's seventeen, it could be that he's just growing up and realizing the world sucks a lot more than we're led to believe when we're young. That always fucks with 'em.

Man, that's the answer right there. Guys between the ages of 17 or 18 thru 21 to 25 are being pulled in 2 different directions.
Part of you wants to stay a kid & let the folks worry about any probs, but society is pulling the other way...into adulthood & want you to grow-up & be responsible.

I'd say his best bet is talking to a doctor about his ecstasy era.

osirus2020 · 08-17-2009, 07:54 AM

I would have to say your friend should probably stop taking X, weed, booze, whatever fuck with his head. There has been a lot of good advice in this thread which you should consider.

Good luck and I hope your friend turns out alright.

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Originally Posted by zoltron

Man, that's the answer right there. Guys between the ages of 17 or 18 thru 21 to 25 are being pulled in 2 different directions.
Part of you wants to stay a kid & let the folks worry about any probs, but society is pulling the other way...into adulthood & want you to grow-up & be responsible.

I'd say his best bet is talking to a doctor about his ecstasy era.

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Originally Posted by Silverleaf

Also, given the fact that he's seventeen, it could be that he's just growing up and realizing the world sucks a lot more than we're led to believe when we're young. That always fucks with 'em.

Hahaha that's good stuff right there

**SageTree** · 08-18-2009, 06:08 AM

I hope it all turns out for good as well. Being a good support system is key to any recovery and your friend is no different. That you are hear asking already seems to me that you are the type of friend that is needed. Keep it up and take care of yourself too.

in kind
Sage

Mr.Tree · 08-18-2009, 01:36 PM

mdma damages serotonin receptors, and most of the time it is irreversible
serotonin= controls mood
when a pill is taken, mdma is absorbed by the brain via serotonin transporters. the serotonin transporters become confused and begin to transport serotonin out of the cell, and not into the cell. and thus this causes the serotonin to be trapped in the synaptic cleft, where it binds again and again with serotonin receptors, stimulating an ecstasy high.

id advise your friend to stop for a long while.

verklingen · 08-18-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Tree

when a pill is taken, mdma is absorbed by the brain via serotonin transporters. the serotonin transporters become confused and begin to transport serotonin out of the cell, and not into the cell. and thus this causes the serotonin to be trapped in the synaptic cleft, where it binds again and again with serotonin receptors, stimulating an ecstasy high.

this makes me want to roll so hard

flappy · 08-18-2009, 04:18 PM

Could be the depression stems from no girl friend, no friends, working at McMeats, etc.

Silverleaf · 08-18-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by osirus2020

Hahaha that's good stuff right there

Don't get me wrong. It's not like a child's ignorant to it or anything. But it's adolescence, rubbing up against the borders of society. And that's when you start realizing how fucked we've all got ourselves.

Mr.Tree · 08-19-2009, 02:04 AM

hahahha

Peace seeker · 08-19-2009, 03:14 AM

some good advice in this thread^^^^

the problem with hard drugs is that you realize that they FUCK UP your brain (and body) after you have taken em for a while. The first few months is all "la la land". then it hits you when u look yoself in the mirror and see a "ghost". Aghost that is deep IN the drug culture.

E will fuck up your receptors so bad, i dont know if its totally reversable even when you quit cold turkey.

he has to quit all drugs ASAP. Meanwhile u gotta support him.

In a year or two he should be alot better. Maybe not 100% like he used to be before the E's, but much better than his current condition.

doing drugs especially on a young age can have serious effects on your mood /depression later on in life

flappy · 08-19-2009, 09:44 AM

What about the girlfriend/sucky school,job,etc. issues ? I always thought a $1000/week and most problems go away.
Don't get me started on corporate anti-depressants...why do you think the suicide rates on troops are sky high? (Besides killing 12 year-olds by mistake.)

08-16-2009, 08:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
t4n2wo0 YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	what up guysss help me out! my good homie is suffering from depression real bad because he dropped ecstasy too much. anyone know how to recover from that? hes only 17. mabye serotonin pills or vitamins like centrum or some shit lol. plzzzz help out my homies suffering hella bad hes not who he used to be...thanks guys

08-16-2009, 08:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mikey Seasoned YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: gulf islands bc Posts: 7,442 Thanks: 1,144 Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,475 Posts	Well, just tell your homie to lay off the ectasy for a while, like 6 months + or at least a year. __________________ RIP Gov

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Mikey Seasoned YaHookan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: gulf islands bc Posts: 7,442 Thanks: 1,144 Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,475 Posts	Maybe he's depressed from something else then. __________________ RIP Gov

08-16-2009, 08:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	Basically that is what I was going to say. We can support you, supporting him, that is about it. I have some friends who are f-ed up from too many pills and it's been years. Their lives have changed or atleast are more emotionally driven. The best thing to do it go to a doctor or theropist and learn new ways to cope with a transformed brain. Sorry to hear about his and your pain with it though dude. Much love and here's to all the good things happening. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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Silverleaf Toker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: in the wild Posts: 508 Thanks: 222 Thanked 77 Times in 52 Posts	Also, given the fact that he's seventeen, it could be that he's just growing up and realizing the world sucks a lot more than we're led to believe when we're young. That always fucks with 'em. __________________

08-16-2009, 08:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
t4n2wo0 YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	hes bene off it a couple of months now and its still bad

08-16-2009, 08:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
t4n2wo0 YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	no its the ecstasy for sure his e count is over 70 and during the time he was dropping a lot he iddn't take breaks. he can't take like serotonin pills or something?

08-16-2009, 02:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,293 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	L-tyrosine and 5-HTP suppliments are helpful, but if he's damaged his serotonin receptors, it's generally irreversable... I don't know what to say other than get him analyzed, see how fucked his head is from a cat scan(costs $$$) and see a psychiatrist. I hope the best for your friend, I hope he's strong enough to perservere this kind of hard-ship. Oh yeah and if he thinks X is the only thing that makes him happy and continues to use it, he will be in for a rude awakening when he can't get high anymore. So make sure he quits doing all drugs. Yes even cannabis until he can get analyzed by some professionals. Sucks when the party is over, ya know? Be a good friend to him. Much love __________________ ۞ Last edited by Mydriasis; 08-16-2009 at 02:53 PM.

08-18-2009, 06:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	I hope it all turns out for good as well. Being a good support system is key to any recovery and your friend is no different. That you are hear asking already seems to me that you are the type of friend that is needed. Keep it up and take care of yourself too. in kind Sage __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

08-18-2009, 01:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mr.Tree jujubee lord Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Detroit, Mich Posts: 519 Thanks: 108 Thanked 50 Times in 41 Posts	mdma damages serotonin receptors, and most of the time it is irreversible serotonin= controls mood when a pill is taken, mdma is absorbed by the brain via serotonin transporters. the serotonin transporters become confused and begin to transport serotonin out of the cell, and not into the cell. and thus this causes the serotonin to be trapped in the synaptic cleft, where it binds again and again with serotonin receptors, stimulating an ecstasy high. id advise your friend to stop for a long while. __________________ "Marijuana is taken by musicians. And I'm not speaking about good musicians, but the jazz type..."

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flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	Could be the depression stems from no girl friend, no friends, working at McMeats, etc.

08-19-2009, 02:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
Mr.Tree jujubee lord Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Detroit, Mich Posts: 519 Thanks: 108 Thanked 50 Times in 41 Posts	hahahha __________________ "Marijuana is taken by musicians. And I'm not speaking about good musicians, but the jazz type..."

08-19-2009, 03:14 AM	#19 (permalink)
Peace seeker free the herb Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,844 Thanks: 773 Thanked 551 Times in 385 Posts	some good advice in this thread^^^^ the problem with hard drugs is that you realize that they FUCK UP your brain (and body) after you have taken em for a while. The first few months is all "la la land". then it hits you when u look yoself in the mirror and see a "ghost". Aghost that is deep IN the drug culture. E will fuck up your receptors so bad, i dont know if its totally reversable even when you quit cold turkey. he has to quit all drugs ASAP. Meanwhile u gotta support him. In a year or two he should be alot better. Maybe not 100% like he used to be before the E's, but much better than his current condition. doing drugs especially on a young age can have serious effects on your mood /depression later on in life Last edited by Peace seeker; 08-19-2009 at 03:17 AM.

08-19-2009, 09:44 AM	#20 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	What about the girlfriend/sucky school,job,etc. issues ? I always thought a $1000/week and most problems go away. Don't get me started on corporate anti-depressants...why do you think the suicide rates on troops are sky high? (Besides killing 12 year-olds by mistake.)

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