Ideas to make weed more potent? - Page 2

kitch · 04-02-2010, 01:47 PM

:head explodes:

Captain Cannabis · 04-02-2010, 02:18 PM

slunt you are not 100% correct in your claims but you are definitely onto the right ideas. decarboxylation of thc @ whatever temp you mentioned (the exact precise temp is in that range, but nobody i imagine has the equipment to bake something at 355.66453390F, for example). when you decarboxylate in this way the del9-thc converts into an isomeric form (namely 11-hydroxy-thc). isomeric compounds to thc have similar effects, but different potency (ie doseage), different half life (ie length of effects) and different absorption by the body. there was a website which listed isomers of thc and their effects, which range from super potent to no activity. 11-oh-thc is longer acting, with a longer onset. it has weaker absorption (in the range of ~3x less than del9-thc), so more is needed for an effective dose.

this is why it is difficult for people to judge the strength of their baked goods, and why the effects from such things are so varied in people (not because of body chemistry, as someone suggested). a non-homogeneously distributed amount of weed in a batch of brownies can easily make someone puke and others not affected at all. to get the drug homogeneously distributed is not an easy task. for example pharmaceutical companies stir powdered drugs for days or even weeks before making pills/tablets.

kitch · 04-02-2010, 03:05 PM

some day I'm gonna be a scientist, and then I can be all like blah blah science science measure ion science dicotomous blah blah too

jmanay04 · 04-02-2010, 03:35 PM

I wish i knew any science then i wouldn't be so miserable

Captain Cannabis · 04-02-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slunt

i'm trying to get a concept across and the general reason why it works. exact temps and times are long faded away from this tired old brain but they are close enough for the gist to be had.
I remember the part about the burning joint being so hot(700F) that much of the THC available was carbonized before it was available for ingestion. Slow cooking does not carbonize THC and therefore more should be available for your dining pleasure.

well your vocabulary and fact accuracy need work but i'll let it slide because your old

. the methods you are describing will work fine no matter how many times you say the wrong words. in the real world there is this thing called "approximately" and it is good enough for the purposes of anyone who isn't doing work in a lab (and even some kinds of labs).

science is a harsh thing to study, because not only do you end up sounding smarter than most people, you also gain a great understanding of exactly how stupid you are and exactly how little you know. if i seem like i'm trying to be a high and mighty expert in the field, it might be only because my vocabulary is on point. if you asked me how much more i have to learn before i actually do know anything beyond the basics (that is, applied knowledge), you would probably be surprised.

kitch · 04-02-2010, 03:58 PM

can you bake good brownies is what I'm askin

Captain Cannabis · 04-02-2010, 04:19 PM

yes but only because i love to bake

**Mafoo** · 04-02-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Cannabis

slunt you are not 100% correct in your claims but you are definitely onto the right ideas. decarboxylation of thc @ whatever temp you mentioned (the exact precise temp is in that range, but nobody i imagine has the equipment to bake something at 355.66453390F, for example). when you decarboxylate in this way the del9-thc converts into an isomeric form (namely 11-hydroxy-thc). isomeric compounds to thc have similar effects, but different potency (ie doseage), different half life (ie length of effects) and different absorption by the body. there was a website which listed isomers of thc and their effects, which range from super potent to no activity. 11-oh-thc is longer acting, with a longer onset. it has weaker absorption (in the range of ~3x less than del9-thc), so more is needed for an effective dose.

this is why it is difficult for people to judge the strength of their baked goods, and why the effects from such things are so varied in people (not because of body chemistry, as someone suggested). a non-homogeneously distributed amount of weed in a batch of brownies can easily make someone puke and others not affected at all. to get the drug homogeneously distributed is not an easy task. for example pharmaceutical companies stir powdered drugs for days or even weeks before making pills/tablets.

wouldnt a cold method be easier to control, like using alcohol to extract, or butane or w/e people use to make honey oil

Captain Cannabis · 04-02-2010, 04:28 PM

those are all completely different techniques which have different advantages and disadvantages. so to answer your question, no. but yes, you could also do that.

Roach · 04-02-2010, 06:10 PM

Quote:

science is a harsh thing to study, because not only do you end up sounding smarter than most people, you also gain a great understanding of exactly how stupid you are and exactly how little you know.

add to that the assumption that few have total recall, and in fact retain maybe 10% of what they ever learned, and the given that the nature of science is to constantly expand/change, I'd have to agree.

Captain Cannabis · 04-04-2010, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Roach

add to that the assumption that few have total recall, and in fact retain maybe 10% of what they ever learned, and the given that the nature of science is to constantly expand/change, I'd have to agree.

the real epiphany type moments that happen when you study science aren't the way you think they are. it isn't when something is finally completely understood, it is when you realize that you don't understand a single thing that is happening.

10% is an extremely low guess and i think you are underestimating the brilliance of some of the people who gravitate towards research (certainly not myself!). expanding and changing does not imply forgetting of first principles. it is a continuous body of work that expands on itself. this is not the same as something which evolves rapidly and forgets what it already knew.

Captain Cannabis · 04-04-2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slunt

Obviously!...wait... WHAT?

You came up with that explanation at 4 a.m. it says. You should be a teacher. You sound like you actually understand what it's like to learn and just because someone is ignorant of a fact doesn't mean they are stupid.

i honestly couldn't have said it so eloquently myself.

Stoerck · 08-15-2010, 08:18 PM

Pick up a gram of kief for 15 bucks, sprinkle some of it on a bowl and you'll be ripped out of your mind no problem

PhishDude · 08-17-2010, 12:51 AM

Get a vaporizer.

If it's any good you'll get just as high as you would from eating it in a dessert or in food but without the nausea and passing out from eating too much. You'll also get only THC.

You don't have to get a volcano either I use a magic flight launch box and it works great. You can even vape kif in it as well as herb.

SmokeaJoint · 08-17-2010, 08:27 AM

More potent weed, Hmm. I guess either smoke more, more often. smoke more, less often. Get shitfaced drunk, then smoke. Switch up your smoking method, it seems to work well. Drink mango juice, then smoke. Apparently there's a compound in mangos and beer hops than allows THC to cross the blood/brain barrier easier. IDK, never looked into the science behind it. Try a 2 week break, that drops tolerance down to a level where you will smoke a bong bowl and be totally ripped for a few hours.

BudSniffer · 08-31-2010, 06:13 PM

Heck, me and the wife made some baked goods... she loves them, they are too strong for me. We made butter (1 lb)with a quarter of good weed, we made cookies, and brownies, just substituting the butter for oil, all these were the bought mixes. One cookie at lunch time (after I ate lunch) and I was blazed until bedtime (about 11pm). I mistakenly ate one of the brownies another time, and I was more looped than I wanted to be, all day.

Bad dog · 08-31-2010, 10:32 PM

What about plugging?
take a few grams of bomb ass dro and stick it up your ass for a few hours. If that don't get you hi then................ .................... .........

~1~ · 08-31-2010, 11:00 PM

'budder'

I didn't spell it wrong, look it up.

And then you can stick that up Bondi's ass

emilyblunt · 11-04-2010, 01:03 AM

The best way to make your weed more potent is to cut down. If you don't see this as an option, buy good stuff. Clearly your weed is not as good as it used to. Try to buy from someone else.

On the other hand, if you're growing, you should buy good seeds then do the usual (bat guano, earthworms, blood and bone from pigs) to make the soil fertile.

Another option would be to mix weed with other substances to make you really high. Alcohol is a good partner if you're smoking weed.

Last weekend, I attended this halloween street party and I just started out drinking and smoking pot and then added one tab of Vs and another tab of X. I was effin wasted. It was probably my best and worst experience. I've never been that wasted in a public place.

So you basically have a lot of options to get that high that you want.

Entity · 11-12-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by slowdiver369

I have been a member for years but am just now coming back to the site.

My ? is: Does anyone know of *anything* to increase the "potency" of your weed?

I have some good weed but I am not getting a good buzz from it and I really need it.

(And yes, I know the best way is to cut down but currently that is not an option for me.)

Pee on it.

No seriously....pee on it...let it dry and pee on it again.

Let it dry once more (hanging upside down or all the thc that WAS in it will rinse out) and then ENJOY!!

04-02-2010, 02:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	slunt you are not 100% correct in your claims but you are definitely onto the right ideas. decarboxylation of thc @ whatever temp you mentioned (the exact precise temp is in that range, but nobody i imagine has the equipment to bake something at 355.66453390F, for example). when you decarboxylate in this way the del9-thc converts into an isomeric form (namely 11-hydroxy-thc). isomeric compounds to thc have similar effects, but different potency (ie doseage), different half life (ie length of effects) and different absorption by the body. there was a website which listed isomers of thc and their effects, which range from super potent to no activity. 11-oh-thc is longer acting, with a longer onset. it has weaker absorption (in the range of ~3x less than del9-thc), so more is needed for an effective dose. this is why it is difficult for people to judge the strength of their baked goods, and why the effects from such things are so varied in people (not because of body chemistry, as someone suggested). a non-homogeneously distributed amount of weed in a batch of brownies can easily make someone puke and others not affected at all. to get the drug homogeneously distributed is not an easy task. for example pharmaceutical companies stir powdered drugs for days or even weeks before making pills/tablets. __________________ fuck the monkeys

04-02-2010, 04:19 PM	#27 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	yes but only because i love to bake __________________ fuck the monkeys

04-02-2010, 04:28 PM	#29 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	those are all completely different techniques which have different advantages and disadvantages. so to answer your question, no. but yes, you could also do that. __________________ fuck the monkeys

08-17-2010, 12:51 AM	#34 (permalink)
PhishDude Telepathic Jackal Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Mars Posts: 3,985 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts	Get a vaporizer. If it's any good you'll get just as high as you would from eating it in a dessert or in food but without the nausea and passing out from eating too much. You'll also get only THC. You don't have to get a volcano either I use a magic flight launch box and it works great. You can even vape kif in it as well as herb. __________________ Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it. -- Buddha

08-31-2010, 06:13 PM	#36 (permalink)
BudSniffer Just bein' me Join Date: May 2002 Location: waayyyy over yonder Posts: 822 Thanks: 413 Thanked 306 Times in 186 Posts	Heck, me and the wife made some baked goods... she loves them, they are too strong for me. We made butter (1 lb)with a quarter of good weed, we made cookies, and brownies, just substituting the butter for oil, all these were the bought mixes. One cookie at lunch time (after I ate lunch) and I was blazed until bedtime (about 11pm). I mistakenly ate one of the brownies another time, and I was more looped than I wanted to be, all day. __________________ "Nobody thinks the way that I do, I guess nobody dares. My head's so full of things, I set my mind free of them. I'm breaking the rules, breaking all the rules. " -Ozzy Osbourne

04-02-2010, 03:35 PM	#24 (permalink)
jmanay04 Jmanay04 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: InDaUSA Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I wish i knew any science then i wouldn't be so miserable

08-15-2010, 08:18 PM	#33 (permalink)
Stoerck Yahooker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where truth lives Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pick up a gram of kief for 15 bucks, sprinkle some of it on a bowl and you'll be ripped out of your mind no problem

08-31-2010, 11:00 PM	#38 (permalink)
~1~ Successful Failure Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: where 'they' can't see. Posts: 10,925 Thanks: 466 Thanked 1,581 Times in 925 Posts	'budder' I didn't spell it wrong, look it up. And then you can stick that up Bondi's ass __________________ "And those who are successful, be always on your guard. Success walks hand in hand with failure, along Hollywood Boulevard" Ray Davies --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Click Here Asshole

11-04-2010, 01:03 AM	#39 (permalink)
emilyblunt YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	The best way to make your weed more potent is to cut down. If you don't see this as an option, buy good stuff. Clearly your weed is not as good as it used to. Try to buy from someone else. On the other hand, if you're growing, you should buy good seeds then do the usual (bat guano, earthworms, blood and bone from pigs) to make the soil fertile. Another option would be to mix weed with other substances to make you really high. Alcohol is a good partner if you're smoking weed. Last weekend, I attended this halloween street party and I just started out drinking and smoking pot and then added one tab of Vs and another tab of X. I was effin wasted. It was probably my best and worst experience. I've never been that wasted in a public place. So you basically have a lot of options to get that high that you want.

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