PotheadRob

I was reading through some posts that had reviews for different strains and it hit me that mj probaby affects different types of people in different ways. I'm talking about besides the common affects such as finding things funnier/more interesting, and seeing thingS from another perspective.

For instance, I am a longtime smoker. Probably 10 years now with a 3 year break that I just came back from about 3 months ago. Now I smoke nearly every day.

When I smoke mj, no matter the strain I get paranoid, the intensity depends on my mood and the strain. Sativas are much worse. I note some people saying sativa is great for if you have things to do. But I find that when I smoke sativa I can barely talk, and am very much not like my usual self. I couldn't picture myself going to work while high. This was the main reason for my break as the paranoia just made smoking so unejoyable. Now I am trying to figure out how I can break away from feeling paranoid. It's probably 90% mental right? I find that playing thinkig games while stoned are the most enjoyable times. Games like madden and chess.

Indicas affect me similarly, except the intensity isn't as bad and I feel groggy (intensity depends on strain).

I'm just wondering how mj affects you all beyond the commonalities that I mentioned earlier. Especially if you have these socially useless affects that I get, like inability to form your words properly (like being drunk).

Interestingly enough, I was perscribed some narcotics by my doctor and if I take my dosage on an empty stomach (hits me fast) then smoke it is the most cerebral feeling I've ever experienced. The problem is I don't want to take that stuff every time I smoke. Any suggestions on curing paranoia?

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Mafoo

i mostly get paranoid when i feel like i have something i should be doing other than getting stoned. i also get paranoid smoking in situations that i deem "shady".. like in public places or places where i feel like its easy to be spotted. i get a much more relaxed buzz if i dont take a large quantity to the head in a short period of time, try that and see if it works the same for you.

my paranoia is usually worst imediately after smoking and usually the intensity level decreases after 15-30 mins. i always kind of attributed the paranoia to the other drugs ive done in the past, but weed definitely makes me feel paranoid

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Paranoia is self induced and therefore, easy enough to cope with and really it's nothing more than a heightening of your primal senses, calm down and look around and you see everything is fine. Nothing is in the closet that you didn't put there and no one is watching you.

Breathe easy...

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illest12

i think you get more paranoid if you arent having sex.
I'm not jsut saying that to be pervy..just trust me. I've seen it happen to enough people.

PotheadRob

Hm, well that's a suggestion. How is it some people are able to smoke a sativa and go to work? That seems impossible to me.

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bubbler211

the few times i feel paranoid i just go with the flow he he he i just love it

José

well maybe it's the fact that it effects everyone differently.

It's very rare that I get a strain that meets all my expectations, very rare.

Mafoo

id say its largely habituation that allows people to do that. i must admit that im stoned pretty much all the time so its pretty much natural for me to be stoned even in less than casual settings. i believe that most people say they are able to smoke sativas at work because the high is less sedating and therefore easier to... work through.. as opposed to a really sleepy body heavy indica high.

in all honesty it has kinda made the high less 'fun' and more 'normal' i would just save the nugs for when you get off work

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farmergiles

Depends what you do and who you work with. No fun sitting in an office with a bunch of straights when you're stoned.

But you don't have to fear the fear. Like No1 said, it's just a state of mind.

Sativas do tend to be more paranoia inducing, specially if they have been harvested early.

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Mikey

as much as i hate to type this, i've had like 2 doctors and 2 different psychiatrists on top of numerous google searching say that smoking lotsa pot over a long period of time increases risks of schizophrenia and paranoia

ps i just typed schizophrenia without getting the red line under it hahaha first shot woo

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Lloydy

the paranoia will never go away, I quit smoking because of it and even now years later if I smoke I still get the same stupid paranoid thoughts.
To be honest I think the people who can smoke all their lives and not get paranoid are in the minority

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Mikey

everyone (non pot smokers included) are paranoid to a certain point.
its a dog eat dog world

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Mafoo

i was just discussing this with a friend the other night. i feel like herb, while in effect, weakens the filter on whats possible vs impossible, maybe thats what increases paranoia? it seems more difficult to handle certain thoughts rationally when im lit.

for instance, lets say im blazing at home the other inhabitants arent cool with that. even if they're out of state hours away, i still have the thought in mind that they could come walking in on my session. when im stoned its harder to say, No, thats outside the realm of possiblities

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osirus2020

I combat paranoia this way:

Since I know I'm high, I realize that it makes me paranoid. If something bothers me that normally wouldn't bother me, I understand that it's the paranoia, and am therefore no longer paranoid.

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Mafoo

definitely ^

when i blaze out in public i always start to get antsy and i have to tell my self to chill out basically

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PotheadRob

This is totally what I do. For instance, tonight I may smoke and then start thinking about things that happen at work. Then I will start thinking, what if my boss knows I screw off half the time, what if he sees me while I'm writing these posts on yahooka from my iPhone. I bet he knows for sure that I lie to him the other day about ... It has gotten to the point where I have been almost positive I was going to get fired the next day.

I am a worrier by nature, so maybe that's all it is. For the most part I'm fine, if I wasn't I wouldn't smoke anymore. But there are those times where it's just a mindfk and I wish I hadn't smoked. I'll try the psyching yourself out method that others have suggested. As a human withthe ability to reason there should be no reason to be paranoid in a situation that does not warrant it at all.

That reminds me, the other night I was baked and playing god of war 3 when I see this mayfly (those giant mosquito looking bugs), so I get up, grab a magazine and swat it hard. It makes a loud noise. The fly doesn't die. I hit it again still doesn't die. Then I go to hit it again and I realize my dog just got completely freaked by the noise. So I stop but after that he was totally freaked out for an hour. It got to the point where I just couldn't play the game anymore because he was startig to make me feel paranoid. I guess there nothing you can do about that. But I should be able to talk myself out of paranoia that comes from irrational thoughts.

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farmergiles

I doubt the causal link.

For sure some people shouldn't smoke weed but you can say the same about alcohol or psychedelics or any drug.

If you're predisposed to be a mentalist you'll probably be predisposed to be a waster.

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osirus2020

That's exactly what Mafoo is talking about. Part of the effect of being high (in this instance) is that your sense of rationality is altered, which makes the outrageous seem very possible.

Which is probably the only way that you can come to this realization, but not be able to tell the difference between what is real and what is an exaggeration of what's real.

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wellfleation

Well yeah. There are strains that produce a clean speedier high (I like these the best) or wheelchair weed that will put you to sleep after 4 good vapes. Both are good in there own ways. I'm currently getting the wheelchair weed bud man it is so good I don't even mind the super sedating effects.

As far as paranoia goes. Well, if you are worried about people being able to smell ya and have to be worried than you should be paranoid and not smoke. It also helps to smoke regularly so you are used to being chill. Also, to eliminate anyone smelling it or anything, plus you get a nice clean high, get a mid range vape.

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wellfleation

I have twice after lunch (I go home and take and hour lunch - late 1 to 2 lunch then leave at 4). I of course vaped three good ones each time. I did not have any meetings that day, all PC work, so I could basically hide in my cube with my two other cool co-worker. I'm a professional and these occasions were exceptions to MY rule. No one even blinked at my professionalism or demeanor (I did need to speak to my supervisor and on the phone a bit - no issues).

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