no_limit1

Have an out of state court date but cant make it?
ok guys, this is for something extremely petty but this town is acting like it's a damned fellony or something.

I am a colorado resident and was back in Kansas visiting my parents and was pulled over and cited for speeding and illegal tags. N.T.A. was set a week after the ticket date so i figured i'd stay and fight it (not the speeding, the illegal tags) because i had just bought my new vehicle from this town and colorado law stated that i could legaly "swap" tags from my old vehicle to this new one for up to 7 days so long as i had insurance and yada yada. evidently kansas didnt see it this way. But here is the clencher-i went in and plead NOT GUILTY on this charge and the damn judge sets a seperate court date for well over a month after my original N.T.A! This court date is rapidly approaching, my plea has already been recorded, and the town is over 450 miles away from where i reside. My car has since stopped running and i am now on bicycle, parents retired living off social security and with no hopes in the near future of getting back to that little town. I've called the city courthouse there and they are now threatening me with a warrant if i do not show! please help! this is just a simple tag/registration issue for gods sake!

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missingora:

I cant even afford to fix my car much less even think about a bus or plane ticket. Besides, there are NO bus services into that small town that i could take. A plane ticket out there would just be absurdly high.

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Watch Dog:

i've literally tried everything here. i've tried asking the city for a continuance, judge called me back saying it was denied, my parents are on social security and can barely afford food and rent let alone an attorney. I cant see how they can appear for me in court, since they are not me. and as far as just "start driving" please read my post a little better, i do not have a running vehicle anymore.

no_limit1

Have an out of state court date but cant make it? - Yahoo! Answers

link to actual question.

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Fuck it...


Stay out of Kansas.


Seriously, change your plea to guilty and pay whatever fine they throw at you.

Man, people act like this whole judicial shit on the Municipal level is Supreme court shit.

THEY WANT YOUR MONEY! That's all, nothing more so send it to them and be done with it.

Just your turn to pay the 'road tax'.

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Mafoo

that or request another date

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He tried that.

It's a small town, this was surely a Muni code violation which means it's the city's money. They don't give a fuck about anything else. They want their fine and the idea is to make it so difficult to deal with, the easiest recourse is pay up and forget about it.

Justice in America folks, as long as you got the cash, feel free to act an ass.

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no_limit1

ya theres the problem guys, they wont let me retract this plea. It's fucking rediculous. i wouldnt mind paying the damn thing but i just cannot. i cant even afford to fix my car. i know thats not really an excuse but hey, it's reality. I'm sure i can swing the speeding ticket, only 40 bucks there, but they are wanting $2800 or my ass in jail for 6 months over a simple registration issue. they slap me with the maximum fine for trying to fight it i guess they think that since im from colorado i have money.

farmergiles

Well then hitch hike.
Otherwise they've got you screwed unless you can afford a decent lawyer which by the sound of things you can't.

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Mafoo

find out how much jail time youd have to do to get off without paying

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HTAM

You first mistake was convincing yourself that Colorado Law applies to you in Kansas, or that The People of Kansas are supposed to recognize Colorado Law and how reads as it applies to you.

Your notice to appear has nothing to do with your Trial date which you set in motion by pleading 'Not Guilty'.

THIS is EXACTLY why I suggested that you better make sure you know the laws and how they apply to you in the other thread you posted asking about the legalities of operating an RC aircraft with the sole purpose of 'watchdogging' the Police.

You don't have insurance, you carry insurance on the vehicle you are operating. You don't have registration, the vehicle you own does. You were operating a vehicle without valid insurance or registration and you were lawfully cited for it.

But the worst part of this? You waited until the last minute to ask for help.

Good luck.

José

yeah why don't you sell your RC helicopter to get there, or perhaps the camera that you were going to use?

no_limit1

lol did i say anywhere in my post that i didnt have insurance? i had insurance on this vehicle, and swapped my old tags onto for the TRIP BACK TO colorado. anyways, i really dont see wtf i can do about this right now with no money and no ride so i guess i cant come back to kansas untill something is seriously wrong with my parents health. As far as the RC copter thing go's, you people assume too much. It was a simple question and you assumed automaticly that i had bought one. jeez no wonder yahooka has died off so much since i joined back in '03. much better place back then!

José

probably because we are a tighter knit community now, but I just assumed you knew what you were doing with RC because aerial photography is really complicated. it just sounded to me like you knew what you were doing.

wellfleation

Fuck Kansas

I still owe for a speeding ticket I got in Tennessee in 1994 when driving cross country from Cali back to Mass. I'll never go back there, they will never get any money from me. Fuck'em

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no_limit1

yea im going to be inclined to just say "fuck it". i've exhausted every other option, they wont work with me, and no matter what i do i just absolutely will not be able to make a trip like that with rent and next semesters college tuition becoming due. just cant do it.

not to mention the 600 bucks its going to take to fix my car. man i hate money.

HTAM

You're problem is that you don't listen completely. You only hear what you want to hear...or read in this case.

If you had insurance on the vehicle you BOUGHT, why didn't you just register with all of your completed ppwk at a KS State/County DMV and get a paper tag that you could drive LEGALLY with? Because, surely you realize that when you showed up on the NTA date, the registration citation might of been dismissed or at the least reduced, if you could prove that you at least ATTEMPTED to mitigate your situation.

You could of ended this registration problem while you were there, but we would of been short one more bullshit lol thread to read. So, thanks, I guess.

And then you went on to say this....
'My car has since stopped running and i am now on bicycle, parents retired living off social security and with no hopes in the near future of getting back to that little town. I've called the city courthouse there and they are now threatening me with a warrant if i do not show! please help! this is just a simple tag/registration issue for gods sake!'.....
Well, it seems you have a pattern of failing at due diligence. You bought a car that based on what you have said was unsound, mechanically, because it's already broken down. The presumption that you did not have it checked out is valid unless the person who declared it worthy of purchase was a moron. Not only that, but you took time off from work (presumably you are employed) and drove to another State to buy a POS.
I personally do not know anyone who has ever done that (purchased a vehicle OOS with complete carelessness), and I've met a LOT of people.

And this...
'i wouldnt mind paying the damn thing but i just cannot. i cant even afford to fix my car. i know thats not really an excuse but hey, it's reality. I'm sure i can swing the speeding ticket, only 40 bucks there, but they are wanting $2800 or my ass in jail for 6 months over a simple registration issue. they slap me with the maximum fine for trying to fight it'
Quit trying to marginalize your problems. You don't see the big picture here. You entered a plea and the court accepted it. It's not their fault that you don't know WTF you're doing. They are not 'wanting' anything, and they didn't slap you with the maximum fine for trying to fight it. That's the PENALTY for the charges you have been cited with, if you are found guilty. The court doesn't care about the decisions you made that led to the predicament you created for yourself.

Sell your POS and use the proceeds to get this off of your back. When you have to return to KS for one reason or another, like a family member passing away, this will be waiting for you to settle if you don't handle it. I also believe Colorado and Kansas have some kind of network for their respective DMVs. I know one person who was stalled at the DMV until LEO showed up and arrested him for FTA. So a warrant their could potentially hem you in CO. You better call somebody in Law Enforcement, like the CSP and ask them about that. Don't don't waste their time with your story....they will not find it as entertaining. Just ask them if a warrant for FTA in KS will show up in CO, and let them ask you the questions if they have any.

And I almost overlooked this...
'It was a simple question and you assumed automaticly that i had bought one. jeez no wonder yahooka has died off so much since i joined back in '03. much better place back then!'
Listen, Duuuuuuuuudde, Bra, Homeboy....
The questions/requests for information via the threads you created recently were anything BUT simple. If they were, you would of known how to find the answers you needed to know. I found a PDF on KS law regarding vehicle registration et al, in about 10 minutes this afternoon.
And if you would of read that, OR even simpler, just called the KS DMV before you even set out on this Jackass Mission of yours, all you would of had was a speeding ticket. The least you could do is thank people for answering your questions, even you don't like the answers. Adults do that, you know.

John F. Kerry

your best bet it to try to find some legal aid in your community

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no_limit1

lol man there is no reason to be such a dick about it. seems to me you have a major superiority complex that needs to be straightened out.

I bought insurance on the car and didnt worry about registration because kansas HONORS colorado BI-LAWS in normal circumstances. in colorado, me being a colorado RESIDENT i can legaly use tags from my old vehicle as a TRANSPORT tag! why waste the money and time on a paper tag when i can legaly do this?

As far as the car being a quote "POS" and "Unsound" i find this completely insulting because i know just as well as you do, that hey, "SHIT HAPPENS" there is absolutely no way your going to be able to tell that Part A is going to go out at Time B with any security. things happen. belts snap, pumps go out, SHIT HAPPENS.

YOU SIR ARE AN ASSHOLE! please contribute to this thread and drop your superiority complex or leave. thank you.

no_limit1

either way it's solved. i've convinced my parents into driving my old vehicle back up to me in exchange for this other one and once it's fixed they will come swap with me again agreed that i pay for their gas. As far as the lagal issue go's i sent payment for the speeding ticket, along with a written statement that i've retracted my previous pleafor the registration , plead no contest, and will agree to pay them 20 bucks a month untill it is paid. If they wont accept it then so be it, it's all i can do and the only advice any attorney will give me for free out in the Springs area. Furthermore the attorney i talked to honestly cannot believe that this turned into such an issue in kansas seeing as how i had insurance and a bill of sale with me, his only conclusion is that the town was just greedy and if he finds any more information for me he'll let me know and may possibly help defend me in this issue if they will not accept my written statement.

HTAM

Oh boy, an Internet fight.

I live in Fort Collins. When you fix you POS that bought drive on up and you can fix my superiority complex. It's not my fault that you can't see the unintentional humour of your own situation, and that you are too foolish to see how you could of avoided all of this.

A few bucks would of completely re-written your story.

But, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, you gotta try and fight it based on information you BELIEVE is correct in 'normal cases'. If that were really true, you wouldn't be asking total strangers to comment on your situation here or at Yahoo.

no_limit1

heh, fort collins. well that explains the attitude. we should meet up. im curious as to whether you really live there or not. if you do great i attend college there maybe we could solve this face to face