Ever wanted to...

Mescalito · 11-14-2011, 06:32 AM

...give someone strong entheogen like LSD, mescaline or mushrooms.. even if they didn't want it? There are people I believe would have their lives changed for the better, but would also be the last people to take such a substance.. for various reasons. I haven't done it.. nor do I intend to.. but it sure is tempting. If you could minimize any physical hazards involved to such a degree..? If there was a guy or gal called X.. do you think that would benefit from such an 'intervention'? If you would do it.. why would you.. and what do you think.. if anything.. could be achieved?

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Mercury · 11-14-2011, 06:45 AM

i had a gf once who i wished would have taken some drugs. other than her, no. i don't really care how enlightened other people are. i only care about myself in that regard.

adventure · 11-14-2011, 06:54 AM

I wish my gf would smoke, So i don't feel like a dumbass every time I smoke. I almost never smoke because of it.

Mercury · 11-14-2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by adventure

I wish my gf would smoke, So i don't feel like a dumbass every time I smoke. I almost never smoke because of it.

ha-ha! your relationship is destined to fail! ha-ha!

jk bro

adventure · 11-14-2011, 07:05 AM

She doesn't mind when I smoke and if I do its only late at night. But I get so high since I do not smoke a lot.

deadhead94 · 11-14-2011, 07:13 AM

Never given anyone a psychedelic without them knowing, never would. That is highly irresponsible. Psychedelics are not toys.

I have given people weed cookies though.

Mescalito · 11-14-2011, 07:41 AM

But would you WANT to.. regardless of how irresponsible it may be..?

Also.. do you consider weed to be a toy? annnd.. if you did give them the cookies without consent.. why did you do it..?

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deadhead94 · 11-14-2011, 07:45 AM

No. And they asked. I just neglected to tell them all the ingredients. They weren't even big doses.

Weed is a toy.

Roach · 11-14-2011, 08:07 AM

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even if they didn't want it?

no, the reason has already been stated.

adventure · 11-14-2011, 08:49 AM

Must people that I know that do not smoke, would bug out if they ate MJ products. I really would not want to deal with the.... No your not dying your OK, I promise, not your heart is not stopping you are just high.
My mom one New Years got kind of drunk and wanted to smoke weed, I wanted nothing to do with it. I love her to piece but I knew she would have been annoying stoned. My neighbor and her best friend smoked with her. I was staying over at my parents, So i just went into the guess room and passed out. I wanted nothing to do with that. I do not think she even really inhaled.

Sir-Ex · 11-14-2011, 08:54 AM

Even with my extremely opened mind with all the psyches that opened up the synapses and made the brain be more special and better, I would still beat the ever living shit out of you if you dosed me without my permission.

I haven't wanted to do that to someone since Jr High, before I ever took a psyche.

Puffman · 11-14-2011, 09:06 AM

how could they possibly enjoy it? if i ate something seemingly normal and then all of a sudden started tripping balls i'd probably think i was dying and head straight for the hospital to have my stomach pumped.

Qui-Bong Jinn · 11-14-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by deadhead94

Never given anyone a psychedelic without them knowing, never would. That is highly irresponsible. Psychedelics are not toys.

I have given people weed cookies though.

Some little prick snuck a bowl of Salvia on me a couple years ago (I was naive back then, now I don't accept anything I didn't see rolled or packed), worst 5 minutes of my life, felt good to beat the shit out of the kid though.

Adventure, last time my mom asked me for a bowl (sober at first) she ended up jumping around on bubble wrap trying to make music. She asked me why she wasn't high, after like 5-10 minutes, then about have way through the sentence, she pasued and was just like holy shit Taylor! Then continued to play on the computer.

fenderbender · 11-14-2011, 02:13 PM

while i would never do this, the only drug i could even consider dosing someone with is DMT.

unlike other hallucinogens, it is extremely short lived as well as generally too intense and loving for it to even be possible to have a bad trip.

Other drugs have too many possibilities. There is only one possibility with DMT, and it is taking you there whether you like it or not. People would freak the fuck out if they were unknowingly dosed with LSD or something. Dosed with DMT = just laying there while your mind goes into the depths of the universe for a few mins then you are back to being completely normal.

Some kind of large scale dosing operation. Force wake up call to the world.

turmaline · 11-14-2011, 03:57 PM

I know a woman who ate a Big Mac...laced with acid....was not a good night for her...she has resented the whole situation and is an advocate against it.

bad idea...some people arent destined to do some things.

Sir-Ex · 11-14-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fenderbender

while i would never do this, the only drug i could even consider dosing someone with is DMT.

unlike other hallucinogens, it is extremely short lived as well as generally too intense and loving for it to even be possible to have a bad trip.

Other drugs have too many possibilities. There is only one possibility with DMT, and it is taking you there whether you like it or not. People would freak the fuck out if they were unknowingly dosed with LSD or something. Dosed with DMT = just laying there while your mind goes into the depths of the universe for a few mins then you are back to being completely normal.

Some kind of large scale dosing operation. Force wake up call to the world.

Yeah because DMT just makes you enlightened and everything is okay now.

**Mafoo** · 11-14-2011, 04:22 PM

the duration and time dialation of most psychedelics is enough for me to not want to give them to anyone without their request. i know most people can handle the experiences, but i dont think id want someone to have to endure something like that for 12+ hours. that could get bad.

i have definitely thought about what it would be like if everyones water got contaminated with acid or even mdma. i think it would be cool to see people forgetting about all their routines for a day and just enjoying w/e they want to enjoy.

but in the end, no i never seriously wanted to dose anyone.

Sir-Ex · 11-14-2011, 04:45 PM

If my city got high on acid because of contaminated water, I would get the fuck out of my city lol

**Mafoo** · 11-14-2011, 06:42 PM

id just turn up my stereo and play with some glowsticks or fire or something for people to trip out on

**Mafoo** · 11-14-2011, 06:47 PM

that or id dress as a fictional character and roam about

basically id do what i do at festivals/ raves lol

11-14-2011, 06:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,297 Thanks: 869 Thanked 912 Times in 448 Posts	Ever wanted to... ...give someone strong entheogen like LSD, mescaline or mushrooms.. even if they didn't want it? There are people I believe would have their lives changed for the better, but would also be the last people to take such a substance.. for various reasons. I haven't done it.. nor do I intend to.. but it sure is tempting. If you could minimize any physical hazards involved to such a degree..? If there was a guy or gal called X.. do you think that would benefit from such an 'intervention'? If you would do it.. why would you.. and what do you think.. if anything.. could be achieved? M

11-14-2011, 06:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,467 Times in 1,093 Posts	I wish my gf would smoke, So i don't feel like a dumbass every time I smoke. I almost never smoke because of it. __________________ Coming Full Range

11-14-2011, 07:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,467 Times in 1,093 Posts	She doesn't mind when I smoke and if I do its only late at night. But I get so high since I do not smoke a lot. __________________ Coming Full Range

11-14-2011, 08:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
adventure Adventure its good Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 4,742 Thanks: 1,852 Thanked 1,467 Times in 1,093 Posts	Must people that I know that do not smoke, would bug out if they ate MJ products. I really would not want to deal with the.... No your not dying your OK, I promise, not your heart is not stopping you are just high. My mom one New Years got kind of drunk and wanted to smoke weed, I wanted nothing to do with it. I love her to piece but I knew she would have been annoying stoned. My neighbor and her best friend smoked with her. I was staying over at my parents, So i just went into the guess room and passed out. I wanted nothing to do with that. I do not think she even really inhaled. __________________ Coming Full Range

11-14-2011, 08:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,821 Times in 2,258 Posts	Even with my extremely opened mind with all the psyches that opened up the synapses and made the brain be more special and better, I would still beat the ever living shit out of you if you dosed me without my permission. I haven't wanted to do that to someone since Jr High, before I ever took a psyche. __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

11-14-2011, 07:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mescalito Oneironaut Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,297 Thanks: 869 Thanked 912 Times in 448 Posts	But would you WANT to.. regardless of how irresponsible it may be..? Also.. do you consider weed to be a toy? annnd.. if you did give them the cookies without consent.. why did you do it..? M

11-14-2011, 09:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
Puffman LeavesOfGrassMyAss! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 6,550 Thanks: 539 Thanked 251 Times in 163 Posts	how could they possibly enjoy it? if i ate something seemingly normal and then all of a sudden started tripping balls i'd probably think i was dying and head straight for the hospital to have my stomach pumped.

11-14-2011, 03:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
turmaline hotdog! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: CANADA Posts: 1,674 Thanks: 513 Thanked 927 Times in 536 Posts	I know a woman who ate a Big Mac...laced with acid....was not a good night for her...she has resented the whole situation and is an advocate against it. bad idea...some people arent destined to do some things. __________________ "I'd rather a frontallabotomy...th an a bottleinfrontofme".

11-14-2011, 04:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	the duration and time dialation of most psychedelics is enough for me to not want to give them to anyone without their request. i know most people can handle the experiences, but i dont think id want someone to have to endure something like that for 12+ hours. that could get bad. i have definitely thought about what it would be like if everyones water got contaminated with acid or even mdma. i think it would be cool to see people forgetting about all their routines for a day and just enjoying w/e they want to enjoy. but in the end, no i never seriously wanted to dose anyone. __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

11-14-2011, 04:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
Sir-Ex Learner Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 11,416 Thanks: 1,726 Thanked 3,821 Times in 2,258 Posts	If my city got high on acid because of contaminated water, I would get the fuck out of my city lol __________________ Smile Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

11-14-2011, 06:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	id just turn up my stereo and play with some glowsticks or fire or something for people to trip out on __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

11-14-2011, 06:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	that or id dress as a fictional character and roam about basically id do what i do at festivals/ raves lol __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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