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View Poll Results: Do you believe in spanking as discipline
Yes and I am a parent 11 14.67%
No and I am a parent 5 6.67%
Yes and I am not a parent 26 34.67%
No and I am not a parent 25 33.33%
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Old 03-24-2005, 08:05 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Incorrect in the case of Allexis. Alexis operates on 98% ration. You have no hope of making her cease or continue a behavior unless you rationalize it to her.

I've heard from people, "you're spoiling her. You shouldn't have to explain every little thing to a child. Rule your house." Part of running a smooth house is knowing how people think and accomodadating that. Even kids.

It she doesn't see a damn good reason to stop She will do it again.

I calmly explained to her when she was 3 that the brown sodas have something in them that makes your heart beat too fast and isn't good for your heart. I told her it was caffeine. Try to give her a caffeine drink today ?(she's 6 ) and you WILL LAUGH. She look at you offended like you offered her poison. If you continue to look blank she'll calmly explain what I told her at 3 years old about caffeine. Now when she goes to friends houses I always find out at the pick up if they offered her a coke. Cause shhe offered them a sermon.

Kids can rationalize quite well!
Hehehe... my kids must be more demon-like than yours . I also don't do the caffeine thing with them (like they need it! ) and I explain why. But, my daughter has no problem taking it when she is away from me and for a while (until I caught her) she was taking her money (that she's allowed to spend on anything that she wants EXCEPT things that she's not allowed to have) and buying it from the vending machines at school.... 'til one day she walked in the house with a Mountain Dew (she rides the bus and usually it's gone by then) and I said, "What are you DOING with that?" she said quite proudly, "I bought it with my own money." lol... so we had to have a little talk... I don't think she does that anymore... of course by the time they're a little older, they can have it if they buy it or it is given to them.... then I see it as their own choice.
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Well, "spanking" or hitting your child is illegal in Britiain, and to be honest, my opinion (although I am not a parent) is that violence breeds violence and that hitting a children is the worst thing you can do as a parent. My dad used to smack me as a kid (every now and then) and to this day I resent him for it, so if I did the same thing to my son or daughter, I would be effectively hitting myself (confusing, huh).

What is "spanking" exactly? All I can picture in my head is a boy over somones knee getting slapped on the ass. I mean, is there a particular measuement of the force created in a "spanking"?
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Old 03-24-2005, 02:45 PM   #43 (permalink)
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^In my house, a spanking consists of 1-3 slaps on the butt (over the clothes and not hard enough to leave a mark but hard enough to wound the pride). It comes (unless there is an extreme circumstance) after the count to three warning and followed by a time out (which is one minute for every year old the child is.... or sometimes a longer 'nap' time-out if it seems to be an day that bad behavior is repeated time and again).
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What is "spanking" exactly? All I can picture in my head is a boy over somones knee getting slapped on the ass. I mean, is there a particular measuement of the force created in a "spanking"?
Well, I don't know about the other parents, but in my house it would be a lucky coincidence to able to get her neatly laying across my knee and gently waiting for the spanking.

The reality usually works like this: I chase her. I catch an arm and I hang on for dear life, all while praying I don't loose my footing either. With one arm holding her arm as she continues to run I try to get a whack in with the other arm. 8 out of 10, I'll miss. I'll try until I think I got three good ones in.

I let her go thinking I've really done something just in time to see her smirk, laugh and take off again.

That's how a spanking goes in my house. Hope that clears things up.
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Hehehe... my kids must be more demon-like than yours . I also don't do the caffeine thing with them (like they need it! ) and I explain why. But, my daughter has no problem taking it when she is away from me and for a while (until I caught her) she was taking her money (that she's allowed to spend on anything that she wants EXCEPT things that she's not allowed to have) and buying it from the vending machines at school.... 'til one day she walked in the house with a Mountain Dew (she rides the bus and usually it's gone by then) and I said, "What are you DOING with that?" she said quite proudly, "I bought it with my own money." lol... so we had to have a little talk... I don't think she does that anymore... of course by the time they're a little older, they can have it if they buy it or it is given to them.... then I see it as their own choice.
I gotta admit... the caffeine thing was a tad selfish. I care about her heart and everything, but mostly at the time I was caring about mine.
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No don't paintball your kids.. thats fucked up. My dad and I used to paintball in our woods but he always gave me the crappy pump one and he had automatic and kept shooting me even tho i said give up and and put barrel plug in but he kept shootin i dunno why
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I'm not a parent but if I had kids I wouldn't spank/hit them at all.
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haha I just noticed that almost no parents said that wouldn't spank. Which parents said they don't believe in spanking?

If you don't mind, I'm curious.

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Ok, if they are fathers, did the children live with the full-time from birth to adulthood?
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In the red corner we have Billy The Kid weighing in at just over 39 pounds. Little Billy has a reach of 18 inches and stands about knee high to the contender. You can expect to see serveral blows to the crotch by the little monster

In the blue trunks we have Your Daddy weighing in at a staggering 220 pounds with a good 32 inche reach, and roughly 475 pounds of pressure when it comes down to punching.

If the kid is like 15-20 I say wait until he starts throwing those punches, before you start swinging away.

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No don't paintball your kids.. thats fucked up. My dad and I used to paintball in our woods but he always gave me the crappy pump one and he had automatic and kept shooting me even tho i said give up and and put barrel plug in but he kept shootin i dunno why

Hahahaha.... that's too funny.... GO DAD!
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Hi Bondi. It's amazing how those views can change isn't it? Lots of things sound good 'in theory' but practice and theory are two different things. Do you mean that he wakes up at night and screams or screams because he doesn't want to go to sleep or what (just curious... ya might be able to find some advice that may or may not help)? If it were me, and it was just a fit... if he has his own room, i'd just close his door and let him throw the fit (of course I know there are lots of variables). The best of kids can be the worst of brats when the moon is just right . Why do you feel that it's better for you to discipline them than your wife (or did I misunderstand that)?
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^In my house, a spanking consists of 1-3 slaps on the butt (over the clothes ...
Why do some people spank their kids on their bare butt? Don't they realize that kids don't always get all their poop wiped off?
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It gets very intensive and sometimes they just push you too far, you are too tired and edgy to have enough patience and something in your mind snaps and you asy' you want to see a fit you little fuckker, wanna see someone freak out?, I'll show you now.

But it is wrong.

Ah, parenting...

Did I tell you all my oldest son got balls for his 15th birthday?

Fucker tried to stare me down, I had to throw his ass on the floor and teach him old or not, I'll still kick his ass....










I sure am glad he didn't realize he's big enough, he probably can kick my ass!

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I find it sad that so many people on here support the use of violence against children as a form of punishment. Violence breeds violence, fear breeds fear. If you shout at a child they know they've done something wrong, why do you need to inflict physical harm? If they don't listen to you when you shout and only listen when you smack then you are ruling by fear. Not fear of punishment but fear of physical attack. It makes me sick quite frankly.
Violence is the lowest form of human expression. When you have absolutely no other option of how to get your feelings out or point across people resort to violence.

And to the people who say, "My parents smacked me, it didn't do me any harm." Well obviously it did as it's taught you that it's OK to hit children wich in my opinion it most definitely isn't under any circumstances.

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I find it sad that so many people on here support the use of violence against children as a form of punishment. Violence breeds violence, fear breeds fear. If you shout at a child they know they've done something wrong, why do you need to inflict physical harm? If they don't listen to you when you shout and only listen when you smack then you are ruling by fear. Not fear of punishment but fear of physical attack. It makes me sick quite frankly.
Violence is the lowest form of human expression. When you have absolutely no other option of how to get your feelings out or point across people resort to violence.

And to the people who say, "My parents smacked me, it didn't do me any harm." Well obviously it did as it's taught you that it's OK to hit children wich in my opinion it most definitely isn't under any circumstances.

Uh, how is shouting any less violent than spanking?
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Ah, parenting...

Did I tell you all my oldest son got balls for his 15th birthday?

Fucker tried to stare me down, I had to throw his ass on the floor and teach him old or not, I'll still kick his ass....

Year before last, my 17 year old at the time wanted to see if he could take me down... experience over mind set any day...

It wasn't an easy task for me to take him.. I thought for 30 seconds i was going to be down.

this was not done in an angered way.. he was just sure he could take me and wanted to find out...

I weighed 217 and he weighed 210.. What a day.










I sure am glad he didn't realize he's big enough, he probably can kick my ass!

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my oldest son decided to find out if he could take me a couple of years ago.. He found out that I still had the upper hand.. It wasn't easy though..
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