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Old 10-05-2013, 02:56 PM   #601 (permalink)
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i think they handled jessies character horribly the final season and pretty much past the first few seasons. his story had so much more potential imo. the fact that i could think up more exciting storylines for him is not a good sign.

i loved the season when him and walt got kidnapped the first time though. that gimmick kinda loses its punch the 10th time one of them gets kidnapped by a gang and forced to cook. i pretty much lost interest in jessie after walt let his GF die.
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i think they handled jessies character horribly the final season and pretty much past the first few seasons. his story had so much more potential imo. the fact that i could think up more exciting storylines for him is not a good sign.

i loved the season when him and walt got kidnapped the first time though. that gimmick kinda loses its punch the 10th time one of them gets kidnapped by a gang and forced to cook. i pretty much lost interest in jessie after walt let his GF die.
The point of jesse's character was that he "died" when jane died. For the past two seasons, jesse became a ghost, a shell of his former self, and had to be born again as a new person. Jane's death rocked Jesse to his very core, to the point that he transformed from a kid who thought money would always be an escape to becoming a prisoner of his own wealth. When Jane died and they never got the chance to go to New Zealand, there was no desire left in Jesse. Jane completed him in a way that he never felt before and knew he would never feel again.

The arch of Jesse is one of the most fascinating archs in television history and it shows that sometimes just getting back to the middle is the hardest thing to accomplish, his story wasn't about winning or losing, it was about finding normalcy in a fucked world with all odds against him. I also liked how Jesse was the character whose personality grew/changed the most over the whole show, he went from the stereotypical "tweaker", to scarface aspirations, to lover, to dead inside, to resigning all sense of hope, to becoming reborn, and finally freeing himself by dropping the gun and driving off.

Still to this day one of the most powerful scenes in the whole show was when Fever Ray was playing and there was a house party going on around him, and all that you saw was a person completely defeated/dead. Gives me chills everytime I see that scene.
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in that case it would have been nice to see some redemption past just the little scene at the end there. for all the shit they put him through i want to see something more than just him strangling todd i suppose. i want to see him alive and well having crazy methed out parties at his house again. that shit was bonkers.

ps- great writeup though, really enjoyed reading it, and it did increase my understanding of the character
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after jane died the plane crash episodes was one of my all time faves

im in the middle of rewatching the show from the beginning

and i gotta say the 2nd or 3rd time around you rewatch from the beginning i think hank is one of my favorite characters
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To dismiss the symbolism in a work full of symbolism is just as foolish as trying to find it when there is nothing to be found.

That said, I don't believe this theory, but it is fun to postulate. However I respect your right to be the ostrich in the sand.
Im with the symbolsim too, just didn't really care for that one. It's interesting but what I said takes over after that.

No doubt full of symbols though.
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boardwalk empire and kenny fucking powers.
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never really cared for boardwalk too much, i have never heard of kenny powers, ill have to check that out thanks ^^
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Heads up, kenny powers is the main character in the show 'Eastbound and Down'
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Ohh some people tell me that show is awesome, others hate it. Your thoughts grieves?
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The third season(last season) was supposed to be the last, then due to fan reaction it was resurrected for another season. The first three seasons were insanely enjoyable, very funny, better than most comedy films. The first episode of season four aired last week and it flashed forward a bit, but was just as solid as the rest of the other seasons.

I would definitely recommend it. It is pretty outlandish but full of lelz.
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I hope Carrie gets her shit together, I love the show but I can't deal with a whole season of her as on edge as she was last week.
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tonights episode was riotous.

all too familiar arch of the climb back to the top, unforeseen set backs brought on by success, and the final realization aside... this seasons shaping up better than last. last season lacked the laughs. this one's been hysterical 2/2.

(mod move this to the eastbound and down thread if there is one. think i made one once)
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