Time to reign in the Internet.

flappy · 02-03-2010, 04:07 PM

The truth of the matter is, the Internet is still in its Wild West phase. To a large extent, the law hasn’t yet shown up. Yet as more and more people move to town, that lawlessness is becoming a bigger and bigger problem. As human societies grow over time they develop more rigid standards for themselves in order to handle their increased size. There is no reason to think the Internet shouldn’t follow the same pattern.

Time Magazine has enthusiastically jumped on the bandwagon to back Microsoft executive Craig Mundie’s call for Internet licensing, as authorities push for a system even more stifling than in Communist China, where only people with government permission would be allowed to express free speech.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/time-magazine-pushes-draconian-internet-licensing-plan.html

wellfleation · 02-03-2010, 05:44 PM

Check this out:

Quote:

Dear Verizon Online Customer:

We are writing to advise you that Verizon recently received a notification from a copyright owner of a possible copyright violation that appears to involve your Verizon Online account (the "Complaint"). The work(s) identified by the copyright owner in its Complaint are listed below.

We are contacting you because our records indicate that the Internet protocol (IP) address provided to us by the copyright owner was assigned to your service on the date and time identified by the copyright owner. While this activity may have occurred without your permission or knowledge by an unauthorized user, or perhaps by a minor who may not fully understand the copyright laws, as the primary account holder, you are legally responsible for all activity originating from your account.

Copyright work(s) identified in the Complaint:

Copyright infringement level: 1
Notice ID: 1041……
Title: The Hangover
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address: 9……..
DNS:
File Name:
File Size:
Timestamp: 01-05-2010 00:23:43 UTC

Copyright infringement is a serious matter that violates U.S. copyright law and subjects infringers to criminal and civil liability. It also violates our Acceptable Use Policy (http://www2.verizon.net/policies/acceptable_use.asp) and Terms of Service (http://www2.verizon.net/policies/tos.asp). If you, or someone using your Internet connection, are engaged in the conduct alleged by the copyright owner, we urge you to stop (and ensure that anyone else who might have access to your Internet connection also stops).

Protecting Your Privacy: The copyright owner has not asked Verizon to identify you, and Verizon will NOT provide your identity without a lawful subpoena or other lawful process. However, if the copyright owner does issue a lawful subpoena or other lawful process that seeks information about your identity or account, Verizon will be legally required to provide the requested information to the copyright owner.

If you have questions regarding this notice or would like to view Frequently Asked Questions about copyrights and piracy please visit us at Verizon Online.

We appreciate your cooperation on this matter.

Sincerely,

Verizon Online

Whatever. . . Fuck them

my_scatterheart · 02-03-2010, 06:25 PM

lol. that movie sucked.

flappy · 02-04-2010, 09:33 AM

That's some serious shit. Bastards are everywhere.

badgoalie85 · 02-04-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wellfleation

Check this out:

Whatever. . . Fuck them

i mean if you're going to download illegally, you have to be prepared to face the consequences.

Mikey · 02-04-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by badgoalie85

i mean if you're going to download illegally, you have to be prepared to face the consequences.

no you don't.

badgoalie85 · 02-04-2010, 02:15 PM

^i do not understand your line of reasoning.

Grieves · 02-04-2010, 02:21 PM

His logic is, fuck the system because it is what keeps me down, so fuck the man and his consequences...Blami ng the rule for the reason to break it...Also known as hippie/bum logic...

Mikey · 02-04-2010, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grieves

His logic is, fuck the system because it is what keeps me down, so fuck the man and his consequences...Blami ng the rule for the reason to break it...Also known as hippie/bum logic...

fuck even if you are shitting on me i still agree with those words^

the-who? · 02-04-2010, 02:39 PM

YouTube - Cinco - Internette - Pants Zone

Waves · 02-04-2010, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoalie85

i mean if you're going to download illegally, you have to be prepared to face the consequences.

lol

unless your one of those huge seeders who is transferring hundreds of gigabytes a day i dont think theres anything to worry about.

i use pot and its illegal, does that mean i should be worried about the consequences of using it?

fuck laws. shits only illegal if you get caught.

badgoalie85 · 02-04-2010, 04:06 PM

well yeah there probably isn't anything to worry about. all i'm saying is that if you're going to steal copyrighted stuff and get caught, don't bitch about it.

wellfleation · 02-04-2010, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badgoalie85

well yeah there probably isn't anything to worry about. all i'm saying is that if you're going to steal copyrighted stuff and get caught, don't bitch about it.

Where did I bitch and complain? I just said fuck them and their threats, and kept going and will continue to do so.

Why do people love to read into the smallest things and then jump to huge ASSumptions around here and shoot their mouths off? Some people here do this every chance they get. They are known as trolls. This seems to happen in yahooka more than any other site I visit.

The Rev · 02-05-2010, 06:41 AM

Yeah, but that's part of our charm.

I am interested to see what happens when the law comes to town. Unlike the wild west, no one is being gunned down in the virtual streets here. The worst we have is illegal downloads and old pervs trying to hook up with 14 year old girls (and we have that show to deal with that). However, we also have some near anarchist encryption geniuses, and their ilk for John Q. to deal with. Maybe this is the point where the tide turns? I hope so.

When the average guy stops believing that the system will give him what he needs for his service, the system get's pwned by the average guy. That's been the deal for centuries. "You can enslave us, just make sure we get what we need." And as technology has improved, what we need has gone from enough to eat, to having some basic luxuries. As the rich get richer, we only expect to get a little richer too. Woe to the master class that squeezes its slaves too hard (I'm looking at you, Republicans).

The Rev

verklingen · 02-05-2010, 11:23 AM

Kompressor · 02-05-2010, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellfleation

Check this out:

Protecting Your Privacy: The copyright owner has not asked Verizon to identify you, and Verizon will NOT provide your identity without a lawful subpoena or other lawful process. However, if the copyright owner does issue a lawful subpoena or other lawful process that seeks information about your identity or account, Verizon will be legally required to provide the requested information to the copyright owner.

I liked how everyone missed this. It was the movie studio tracking that torrent, not Verizon. I'm not sure how it is with Verizon, but having read the fine print from Comcast, you have to download/upload over 250 gigs per month for them to even send you a notification letter. As Waves said, unless you're seeding a great volume of torrents and have the bandwidth to do so you've got nothing to worry about.

In other words, that is not some serious shit, it's not even a threat, at least not from your internet provider.

Learn to p2p shield anyway noobs.

The Rev · 02-05-2010, 11:38 AM

Do you think the studio tracks it to catch people, or to better assess the popularity and demand for their movies?

The Rev

flappy · 02-05-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

Again, always defending the status quo.

Kompressor · 02-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Again, flappy doesn't realize how sensationalist he really is.

wellfleation · 02-06-2010, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry

ffs firefox has a feature that will shield you in like two seconds, this should not be a problem. Only noobs get caught for pirating these days.

I was using a TORRENT CLIENT program. Isn't this the norm?

02-03-2010, 04:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	Time to reign in the Internet. The truth of the matter is, the Internet is still in its Wild West phase. To a large extent, the law hasn’t yet shown up. Yet as more and more people move to town, that lawlessness is becoming a bigger and bigger problem. As human societies grow over time they develop more rigid standards for themselves in order to handle their increased size. There is no reason to think the Internet shouldn’t follow the same pattern. Time Magazine has enthusiastically jumped on the bandwagon to back Microsoft executive Craig Mundie’s call for Internet licensing, as authorities push for a system even more stifling than in Communist China, where only people with government permission would be allowed to express free speech. http://www.prisonplanet.com/time-magazine-pushes-draconian-internet-licensing-plan.html __________________ <> <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> <>

02-03-2010, 06:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,553 Thanks: 1,487 Thanked 3,328 Times in 1,870 Posts	lol. that movie sucked. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega

02-04-2010, 09:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	That's some serious shit. Bastards are everywhere. __________________ <> <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> <>

02-04-2010, 02:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,085 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	^i do not understand your line of reasoning. __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

02-04-2010, 02:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Grieves The Worst Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Interstate 8 Posts: 12,108 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2,580 Thanked 3,129 Times in 1,722 Posts	His logic is, fuck the system because it is what keeps me down, so fuck the man and his consequences...Blami ng the rule for the reason to break it...Also known as hippie/bum logic... __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

02-04-2010, 04:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,085 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	well yeah there probably isn't anything to worry about. all i'm saying is that if you're going to steal copyrighted stuff and get caught, don't bitch about it. __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

02-05-2010, 06:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	Yeah, but that's part of our charm. I am interested to see what happens when the law comes to town. Unlike the wild west, no one is being gunned down in the virtual streets here. The worst we have is illegal downloads and old pervs trying to hook up with 14 year old girls (and we have that show to deal with that). However, we also have some near anarchist encryption geniuses, and their ilk for John Q. to deal with. Maybe this is the point where the tide turns? I hope so. When the average guy stops believing that the system will give him what he needs for his service, the system get's pwned by the average guy. That's been the deal for centuries. "You can enslave us, just make sure we get what we need." And as technology has improved, what we need has gone from enough to eat, to having some basic luxuries. As the rich get richer, we only expect to get a little richer too. Woe to the master class that squeezes its slaves too hard (I'm looking at you, Republicans). The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

02-05-2010, 11:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kjkmGpXnhG0&color1=0 xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfc fcf&hl=en_US&feature =player_embedded&fs= 1"></param><param name="allowFullScree n" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAcc ess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kjkmGpXnhG0&color1=0 xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfc fcf&hl=en_US&feature =player_embedded&fs= 1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="tru e" allowScriptAccess="a lways" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

02-05-2010, 11:38 AM	#17 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	Do you think the studio tracks it to catch people, or to better assess the popularity and demand for their movies? The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

02-05-2010, 09:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,361 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3,069 Times in 1,634 Posts	Again, flappy doesn't realize how sensationalist he really is. __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

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