Snowmayne

Got turned onto IE9 this morning while reading some random threads.

Apparently they fixed all their security issues, and made heaps of impovements overall.

Used FF for years, then moved onto Chrome as soon as it came out and became good, now since this morning im really diggin IE.

Its fast as fuck, maybe faster than chrome. Everything I read about it though sounded great, to lazy to do any research and post stuff.

Just a heads up.

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Bill Gates' bitch...


I bet he's paying you for every e-mail you track too huh.

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Kompressor

IE9 is supposedly faster than Chrome 9, but not Chrome 10.

Just DL'd both, and my benchmarks show Chrome 10 faster as well.

Both offer hardware acceleration which is nice, but chrome apps can run while chrome is not open, which is nice for me at least.

I'm sticking with Chrome but IE9 isn't a bad backup.

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Snowmayne

my chrome was crashing almost daily believe it or not, as well as 1 tab was randomly freezing quite a bit while multi tabbing which is like, always.

but yea, I dunno, enjoying the change.

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We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.
We are not fat, we are greatly cultivated.
Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?! "

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Call me old fashion but does anyone offer a stripped down browser that isn't filled with a bunch of complex shit designed to make my online experience simpler and more enjoyable?

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Kompressor

Chrome, Opera, and IE9.

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Ego Tripping

Don't care how fast it is. If you're using IE, you're getting a stripped down version of the web, period. Chrome is the best rendering engine (Webkit) and overall browser. Firefox4 will dominate. IE barely caught onto rounded corners.

IE9 is barely catching up to what every other browser has been doing for years and it will get left behind (yet again) in about another year.

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Kompressor

Meh, I don't see FF4 taking a huge chunk anymore, it's basically in the same position as IE.

You may not care how fast content is delivered to you, but most people do which is why it's such a big emphasis for browsing.

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Snowmayne

lol wat.. pretty sure all the webs still here, plus Chrome does have problems. A lot of sites don't work correctly with chrome, I've experienced it.

On top of that as I said, Chromes been fucking up ALOT for me so yea, right now, IE is the better experience.

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We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.
We are not fat, we are greatly cultivated.
Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?! "

Ego Tripping

Sure brother, whatever you say.

View some of these demos in Chrome (and FF4 soon) and then in IE...speaks for itself:

CSS3-Man

isocube - CSS "3d" isometric cube

CSS3 Matrix Animation

jQuery DJ Hero - CSS3 and jQuery fun

Sliding Vinyl with CSS3 - ZURB Playground - ZURB.com

No Flash needed. This is the future of the web (HTML5/CSS3), most especially on mobile platforms. IE can barely get rounded corners, nevertheless all the advanced rendering techniques developers will implement, ignoring the fact that IE can't keep up. Yes, most people don't care...yet. In the end, people love bells & whistles and will migrate to platforms that support them.

The above examples are simply an example that most sites you will visit in IE will look 'aight' but you'll miss all the technology that is swimming around it. And honestly, why the hell would you surf the internet (the most fast moving and leading-edge technology we've seen given to the masses) using nothing but the latest and greatest is beyond me. Its like having your own highspeed raceway and using a bicycle to race around it.

If someone really cared about how fast content is delivered, they would get a better internet connection, instead of trying to salvage the few hundred milliseconds you get from using a certain type of browser.

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Ego Tripping

Although I will add that IE9 is a blessing, to finally get people to move away from IE6 and IE7. Beyond that though, rubbish.

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Kompressor

You're thinking as a dev, I'm thinking as a corporate IT employee where many company/industry specific apps don't need fancy animations, they need data/content. Most business apps are built around IE, there's more than just home/end users that microsoft caters to.

I don't happen to think Mozilla can keep up with Google. After all, Chrome is now in version 10 compared to FF4. Chrome, as i've seen, has never hiccupped in the latest and greatest advances and is often leading them.

Nowadays people weaning off IE are more likely to go to Chrome than Firefox, especially on business machines that don't have the best specs/processing compared to home PCs.

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Ego Tripping

Granted, but this IS a thread based around the average home user (such as Snowmayne) and not the corporate IT industry, which is a whole different ballgame. I know (from a friend who worked there) that Intuit is still using IE6! So IE9's release is irrelevant in much of that particular part of the industry anyway. Many companies won't bother to move to IE9 for the same reasons they didn't move to IE7 or IE8. But, we'll see if IE9 really is a solid update or just a consumer release to save face and stay somewhat relevant. That's pretty much what Windows 7 was and they more or less nailed it. So far though, I'm disappointed with IE9 and am so surprised they released something barely comparable to what is out there now.

Well, I totally agree and time will tell, but from a developers point of view I don't really care which they use, as long as its not IE.

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Kompressor

Au contraire, most industry mags i read have shown that those stuck in IE6 whether it be for security or legal reasons are jumping ahead to IE9 much like how most businesses skipped vista and went from XP to 7. Those running IE6 are more concerned with data transfer and security than rendering anyway, which is what IE9 is touting.

Even for the average home user, data transfer and security are probably going to register a little higher on the USE ME meter than fancy graphics/scripts.

That being said I am a promoter of any good software, albeit MS, Apple, Google, or Mozilla and I'll recommend different things to different people based on their needs.

For minimal computing resources though, still can't beat Chrome.

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Ego Tripping

Agreed on all counts, but that's what baffles me. IE9 was only a few minor steps away from being fantastically standards compliant, in both consumer and apparently business/IT arenas. Why they cut out at the last minute is beyond me, especially when Chrome and Firefox are out there.

Then again, just like Vista -> Windows 7, I'm sure IE X is going to blow us all away..

sigh

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Štulic

It's pretty much ridiculous to say nowadays that one browser is faster then the other, it might have been the case in ancient dial-up times, but now when everyone has a pretty fast connection, shit like that becomes obsolete.
A decent download speed is all you need to load webpages fast, browser response or multiple requests and stuff don't matter anymore.

I'll stick with Chrome because I don't think the difference or the improvements are worth going through the hassle of changing my primary browser anymore. It's all same shit.

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Snowmayne

true that but I've got shit webs, and only 1 option. I don't know what it was with Chrome but as I said, shit was fucking up for me quite a bit, when 10s out, I'll switch back and see how its acting.

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We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.
We are not fat, we are greatly cultivated.
Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?! "

wellfleation

This

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wellfleation

Anyone due the Acid test yet with 9?

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