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Old 05-15-2014, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rigidly Typecast Actors & Actresses

...in mainstream film/television; those cast in specific roles which said actors cannot seem to break out of.

-Danny Trejo: Edgy gangbanger veteran(Breaking Bad, Grindhouse, Sons of Anarchy)from the "wrong side of the tracks". Possible explanation: Reformed gangster before fame; doesn't act in the traditional sense of the definition but rather portrays former self onscreen.

-Jack Nicholson: Offbeat, unhinged source of comic relief (One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Batman, The Shining) -slash-badass womanizer.

-Steve Carrell: Oblivious yet lovable awkward fella, funny at own expense(The Office, 40-Year-Old Virgin, Anchorman I & II). Exception role: Little Miss Sunshine. See also: Paul Rudd in I Love You, Man

-Zooey Deschanel: Manic Pixie Dream Girl. A hipper incarnation of a Mary Sue figure, whose delightful quirks & adorkable persona is decidedly inspiring(New Girl, Weeds, 500 Days of Summer, Our Idiot Brother). Nothing too threatening or controversial in terms of casting trends. See also: Michael Cera, Zach Braff, Milla Jovovich in the Fifth Element

-Morgan Freeman: Elderly sage-slash-sentimental-narrator. Helps conflicted protagonist overcome personal issue & learn to look on the bright side; or the voice of insightful, feel-good summaries to reinforce moral of story.

-Jude Law: Pretentious, hoity-toity asshole(The Talented Mr. Ripley, I Heart Huckabees).

-Tommy Lee Jones: Cynical ultra-square authority figure. See also: James Rebhorn

-Jason Statham: Bald action-hero badass. See also: Bruce Willis, Vin Diesel, The Rock

-Zach Galifianakis: Fat obnoxious manchild/kidult. See also: Seth Rogen, Jonah Hill, Melissa McCarthy, Rebel Wilson, Chris Farley

-Steve Buscemi: Slightly tragic, unsavory oddball figure. See also: Christopher Walken, Ronnie McGorvey

Sidenote: I'm not talking about actors who've demonstrated exceptional niche potential i.e. Cate Blanchett/period-pieces, more to the effect of actors whose careers are apparently confined to peculiarly specific roles.

Do you think typecasting is intentional, unintended on behalf of actors & beyond their control--or none of the above/case-sensitive?
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I think it's always intentional, though not always intended by the actors (though often is the case that it is). Some actors just get that they play a certain character well and it sells well, so they stick with it because it makes them money. Obviously studios are all about making money, so those actors who work for the caricature they need, they use. Some actors probably just say yes, others might say no, and others might not have a choice if they want work.

Dennis Hopper is awesome. Lol. That should just be said. And of course he is definitely not a typecast actor.
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Dennis Hopper is awesome. Lol. That should just be said. And of course he is definitely not a typecast actor.
True. I'd argue that a vast majority of film legends & the current "household names" are/were highly versatile(i.e. Tom Cruise, Angelina Jolie, Leonardo diCaprio, Johnny Depp, Sean Penn)and able to transition from flashy action "dick-flicks" into serious dramas, fantasy films. Many have demonstrated the ability to convincingly play heroes, anti-heroes & in some cases, bring a lot to the table in "second-fiddle" roles which they played supporting/background characters as opposed to the star of the show.
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You'll also notice that a lot of those actors your mentioned (perhaps all of them) have either directed or produced a number of their movies.

I think a lot of actors that are able to have variety are those that either:
- got the opportunity to play some different characters and the movies ended up being successful
- made enough money themselves to have the ability to help fund their own ambitions
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On that note, Tony Danza is perhaps the most limited actor of all time to earn mainstream recognition on television AND in film. When hasn't he played a likeable down-to-earth everyman type character, who is coincidentally named Tony?

Honorable typecast mentions:

Sleazy Jerk with Womanizing Powers: Charlie Sheen, Danny McBride, Dax Riggs, Jeremy Piven, Alec Baldwin, Russell Brand, David Spade, Nick Stahl, Vince Vaughn, Jason Lee(not the dead one), Mickey Rourke, Billy Bob Thornton

Tuff Bad Girl: Michelle Rodriguez, Jaime Pressly, Debi Mazar, Krysten Ritter, Shannen Doherty, Rose McGowan, Fairuza Balk, Mia Kirshner, Melinda Clarke

Brainless Beauty: Anna Faris, Heather Graham, Marilyn Monroe, Tara Reid, Kristen Bell, Suzanne Somers, Christina Applegate, Shannon Elizabeth, Jennifer Coolidge, Brittany Murphy

Token Black Friend: Mekhi Phifer, Donald Faison, Chris Tucker, Anthony Anderson, Mr. T, Romany Malco, Mike Epps, Sean Patrick Thomas

Unlucky In Love: John and/or Joan Cusack, Jennifer Aniston, Drew Barrymore, Katherine Heigl, Renee Zellweger

Average Everyman lead: Jason Bateman, Luke Wilson, Owen Wilson, Paul Rudd, William H. Macy, Matthew Broderick, Ryan Reynolds
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I agree with most, except Alec Baldwin who's had a pretty big range of different characters overall.

Also John Cusack.. it's kind of his bread and butter yeah, but he's done a decent amount of different stuff too.

And Matthew Broderick. He used to be. Many years ago. But his entire career since is almost exclusive to quirky, slightly pathetic characters.
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My favourites of your list:
- Danny McBride
- Anna Faris
- John Cusack
- Paul Rudd

.. and Matthew Broderick for that blue blanket scene in the producers remake. That made me laugh my ass off really, unhealthily hard.
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I think most of the time writers have actors in mind for certain roles when they start projects.
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Lol remember Sam Worthington?



Yeah.. neither do---- wait... I just looked on IMDB.


There's gonna be THREE more Avatar movies? Holy shit.





Well I loved Avatar so.. .. YAY
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You'll also notice that a lot of those actors your mentioned (perhaps all of them) have either directed or produced a number of their movies.

I think a lot of actors that are able to have variety are those that either:
- got the opportunity to play some different characters and the movies ended up being successful
- made enough money themselves to have the ability to help fund their own ambitions
For the most part, celebrities-turned-directors spent decades earning their bones as actors early in their careers, long before trying their hand as directors(Sean Penn, Leo, Mel Gibson etc).
I'm guessing that's how it pans out b/c one must be extensively "connected" in the industry in order to raise interest in/money for their project, recruit competent staff, promote; and in order for their effort to be taken seriously by the general public.
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Hmm yeah I'm trying to think of an actor that spent most his career being type cast but still ended up being able to direct his own films..

I think Seth Rogan did? He's pretty.. Seth Roganny in everything he does.

Of course Seth Rogan is in the comedic jew club so he those connections for a while.
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Oh and Adam Sandler of course.
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I think the point I was trying to make is pretty flimsy at this point.
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I think most of the time writers have actors in mind for certain roles when they start projects.
Some directors favor clearly favor a chosen set of actors & consistently cast the same staples in most/all their films.

Tarantino: Christoph Waltz, Steve Buscemi, Brad Pitt, Uma Thurman, Samuel L. Jackson

Kevin Smith: Jason Mewes, his wife, Joey Lauren Adams, Jason Lee, the same two guys that played Dante & Randal in Clerks, Ben Affleck

Judd Apatow: Rogen, Franco, McLovin kid, Jay Baruchel, Jason Segel, Bill Hader, Leslie Mann/his wife

Adam Sandler: Himself, Rob Schneider, Peter Dante & Allen Covert from Grandma's Boy
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I just got done watching Clerks... lol
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Hmm yeah I'm trying to think of an actor that spent most his career being type cast but still ended up being able to direct his own films..

I think Seth Rogan did? He's pretty.. Seth Roganny in everything he does.

Of course Seth Rogan is in the comedic jew club so he those connections for a while.
Everyone who was in freaks and geeks never left those roles.
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Refreshingly well-rounded counterexamples for all the One-Trick-Pony names dropped:
Charlize Theron
Jamie Foxx
John Travolta
Ewan MacGregor
Tom Hanks
Meryl Streep
Clint Eastwood
Toni Collette
Dustin Hoffman
Hilary Swank
Christian Bale
Adrien Brody
Al Pacino
Daniel Day-Lewis
Josh Brolin
Jesse Eisenberg
George Clooney
Matt Damon
Alan Rickman
Julianne Moore
Jodie Foster
Naomi Watts
Natalie Portman
Forrest Whitaker
Christoph Waltz
Robert Downey Jr.
Kevin Spacey
Bryan Cranston
Philip Seymour Hoffman(RIP)
Michael Fassbender
Viggo Mortensen
Vanessa Redgrave
Winona Ryder
Gary Oldman
Jeff Bridges
Gene Hackman
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Everyone who was in freaks and geeks never left those roles.
Except for James Franco. He's done alright for himself in "serious" grown-up roles & some action films. But TBH I couldn't bring myself to watch more than 5 minutes of Interior. Leather Bar., the movie he directed.
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My favorited typecast actor ever. Always starts with someone he loves or cares about getting hurt or injured.. In a foreign country.... Or a put somewhere out of his element. He wanders around lost.. Or is vulnerable...Listeni ng to some romantic sad songs.. There is always a damsel in distress, And then comes back to kick fucking ass!
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I forgot Van Damme existed! I watched a lot of his movies growing up, then he fell off the face of the earth for awhile. Dolph Lundgren too.
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