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Old 06-20-2015, 10:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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so i'm doing my very first build. it's been a LONG ass time since i looked into pc hardware and boy have things changed. back when i was into computers 56k modem and 16MB of ram was the cats ass. now i'm older and life is boring so i thought...LETS BUILD A COMPUTER cuz i'm tired of my slow ass piece of shit that can only run quake 2 and watch youtube videos at the lowest settings and i just got a $500 safety bonus from work..haha

Here's what's in the mail:

CPU: Intel i5 4690 3.5 ghz quad core ($220)

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-G1.Sniper z97 ATX ($120) (The name "Sniper" sold me..LOL...i'm a sucker i know)

RAM: G.skill Sniper series 8GB DDR3 1600 (1 stick) ($55) (Sniper RAM got me too..haha)

CASE: Corsair c70 in olive drab ($110), it looks like an ammo can, you guys know i LOVE my guns..lol

For the gpu i'm really liking the gigabyte gtx 750Ti ($120)...a 120gb Samsung SSD ($70) for my boot drive, western digital 1tb HD ($50) and windows 7 ($85)...these will come later on when funds allow it

i'm trying to keep this as cheap as possible but still good enough to play older games and some newer...i'm no "enthusiast" just a causal gamer but don't want the shit to lag.

don't think i'll need liquid cooling so i'll use the stock fan that comes with the i5 and maybe a two or three $10 fans randomly mounted

PSU's are pretty cheap about $40 for something decent

I don't know the 1st thing about BIOS so i hope i don't screw this up but i've been doing a lot of research.

Would appreciate any input if i'm over spending or suggestions on different gear?

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Couldn't be easier to build these days.

Here, i even inputted what you have/what you're looking at:

Kishar's Ammo Box Click "Edit this Part List" button to keep working on it.

All in all, a pretty solid build so far.

You won't have to mess with the BIOS at all unless you're planning to overclock.

The only suggestion i would make is spend a little more money on the PSU and get a modular one for easier upgrade ability if you want to put in liquid cooling and a beefier graphics card later down the line.
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Everything looks fine, but some tips:

- obviously you need the 'things that come later' immediately otherwise you can't use your computer
- the GPU you've selected is a good choice for what you're looking for, $120 for that card is a good price.
- $40 power supply? Maybe you can pull that off since your GPU isn't too power hungry, just be sure to get one that's 80 plus certified.
- the RAM is a bit on the low side .. but the price is fine and is probably enough for the games you'll play.. but I would go for a bit more if you can
- The processor is long in the tooth too, but again, probably good enough for most games today. Personally I'd try to spend the extra hundred bucks and get an i7 at that speed. That i5 might be okay for now but it's gonna be outdated very soon.


But yeah, as it is this PC should be able to run the majority of AAA games currently out on mid range specs and give you decent performance.

With the games that are coming out though... I'd boost that processor and play my Fallout 4 in all its intended glory.
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Old 06-20-2015, 12:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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thanks for the feedback guys...my wife is going to kill me i just ordered the video card too...LOL...i'm stoked enough to sell a couple guns to pay for this..haha


what wattage PCU should i consider 700? maybe more? ....i can tell i'm about to go WAY over my budget....they just increased my Sony card to 5k 5.9% limit so F it..haha
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The GPU you selected is a 400W unit, so 700 would be more than enough.
However I'd still go for something in the 600W-700W range. just in case you decide to upgrade later. Absolutely don't go less than 500W
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Your build isn't that power hungry yet, only consuming an estimated 252w so far. I'd recommend a modular PSU because it's easier to route cables through your ammo can case and you can add more cables to it for new hardware without having to replace the entire thing later. Plus you'll still need to add fans to your case, but it seems like it comes with a decent set already.

This one looks perfect for you, average price $80:

EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (120-G1-0650-XR) - PCPartPicker
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Komp, whats a "modular" PSU? whats the difference between that and a normal PSU? again i've been out the pc loop for a long time not like i was ever IN it, that $20 rebate is VERY enticing

and EX...i'll probably go with 16 gb of ram cuz i been looking at "recommended" requirements for the newest games and most only call for 8gb so i suppose 16 will be MORE than enough. and i couldn't justify a $100 difference for the i7 cpu when, from what i've read, only offers "hyperthreading" (whatever that is) and the i5 can be overclocked to a stable 4.5ghz at least from what i've read AGAIN, i could be wrong though.

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No problem - getting a new computer is always exciting
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fully modular means it has no cables attached to the psu. you only hook up the ones you want to the back of the psu, and then to the rest of your hardware. semi modular is only the most basic power and component cables are permanently attached. and a regular one has every cable attached inside of it, and running out the back

unless youre doing alot of overclocking and some serious gaming or graphic rendering, youd probably never benefit that much on the added costs of fully modular. having fully modular , it just helps the inside of your pc tower to run a little cooler because it will get better airflow with less wires and stuff in the way. if youre not going to continuously put your computer under high strain, youre better off just getting a normal one that you can mount in the chassis, or just a semi modular. just get something powerful enough to run your specs, and most of all, you want it to be quiet and power efficient.
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and if youre after newest games, i hate to say it but youre not going to get alot out of a 750 ti. already its dated and youll be running games in low-med. i know it sounds rough but you should probably invest a bit more if youre looking to go that route. a gtx 970 is only $300ish but its a great card for 1080p gaming and will last a while before you have to upgrade. a gtx 960 would have been much more desirable than a 750ti and its price range isnt really all that high either.

thats a great motherboard but id suggest spending the extra $10 on the gigabyte z97 SLI compatible one.

16 gb is overkill as well for gaming. i5-4690 is the way to go on the cpu though. you could easilly get by with 8 gigs. with ram 2 x 4 will perform better than a 1 x 8 gig stick respectively because its more efficient to run it in pairs. maybe take the extra money and put it towards a better graphics card. if youre really serious about gaming though, that would be a must. also a 4690k (overclockable ) and a cheap cooler like a hyper 212 evo would be worth it, even though its bulky and tricky to install, its cheap and super efficient. . a 600 watt corsair psu would be more than enough for you to enjoy todays games to the fullest and still have juice for added upgrades.


but it all comes down to price and what youre willing to pay. if you really want to game and you insist on keeping the 750 ti, at the very least you should swap the motherboard for a SLI compatible one, buy another 750 ti to pair with it, and throw in some fans and a cooler.

if youre just after some casual gaming on low, that build is fairly decent. i would at least try to go with the 4690k instead, just in case one day you decide to want to overclock. for gaming its really not one thing you really want to skimp out on. but neither is the gpu
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There's hardly that big of an added cost, and it'll make a difference to you now and later down the line when you may encounter a configuration that your fixed cables may not be able to handle, like his future plans of water cooling.

I prefer having at least 16 gigs but i tend to have a lot of things running at the same time, and i run number crunching software every now and then which takes up as much ram as allowable.

IMO, the ammo can rig you have going now is a good starting platform for further upgrades later.



I'd recommend using double-sided velcro for your cable management as well. Easier to add/remove/reapply than zip ties. Used by LAN administrators the world over.

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Considering what hashplant said about the GPU, he's right that the 750 ti is getting old and it probably won't cut it by the end of 2016 for the new stuff, but you said you're not a big enthusiast, and he's being a little over dramatic about what you will or won't get out of that rig.

I'm not sure what kind of games you're into, but I chose a handful of the popular ones

With your selected rig you will be able to run:
- GTA V on high settings
- The Witcher 3 on med settings
- City Skylines on high settings
- Project Cars on high settings
- Crysis 3 on med.. quite possibly high settings
- Dying Light on med settings
- Shadow of Mordor on high settings


.. anyway you get the idea. Your rig is fine for contemporary games, and thanks to the relative shittiness of the PS4 and Xbone, its lifespan might even be greater than you might think.
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i benchmarked the specs for GTA V, and surprisingly itll run on a 750ti at 1920x1080. but itll max out at 35 frames per second.

still nonetheless im surprised a 750ti would even run it on high. its quite the bottleneck and youre only getting 79% performance out of the game using that card, when the rest of the specs are more than sufficient to run it on at least 60fps on high

throw a 970 in there and dont look back. AMD supposedly has a new R9 card coming out to compete with it this summer, but its not always fun playing around with your drivers all the time and AMD cards often tend to draw alot more power than nvidia. maybe they will get their shit together and it wont be supersized, loud, and power hungry but i wouldnt count my chickens. a 960 would be a fairly cheaper alternative for something that should be able to hold its own for the next few years anyways.
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thank you guys for all the feedback it's really helpful. UPS man just dropped off the i5 and shes a heavy little box :-)

mobo and video card will be here thursday... wife said she'd buy me the case for a belated fathers day gift!

I might upgrade the video card later on but for now i'll be good...i still have my ps4..only new pc game i'm interested in at this point is the new batman, if my setup runs it on medium i think i'll be ok with that.

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We know you love us, but you might wanna stop jacking it so much with that split stream there.
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So i got all my parts except for...

windows...and i made some changes to my parts list.

i went cheap on the case and got the 200r instead, i ditched the ssd idea (for now) in favor of the 1TB WD "Blue"....(i got my current pc in 08..it has an 80GB HDD and i haven't even used 1/2 the space!!! so...)...i wish i knew about the WD "Black" before i placed my order...i read where they're a little faster...and i've never had ssd just regular HDD...(except wifes laptop) so if this build is faster than what i'm on now then i'm happy.

i also opted for a semi modular but lower wattage psu because i don't see myself getting crazy with the hardcore gaming scene

and i went with 8gb of ram instead of 16... times are kinda tough right now so i tried my best to cut corners on this rig but have it still be effective.

if i want/need to OC in a year or two i have that flexibility just need to upgrade my cooling solution and up the RAM..hehe...he said RAM! like RAM her in the.... :-)

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Right on dude, now you get down to business and fill each and every one of that dirty motherboard's slots!
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