Most influential rapper? - Page 2

Geeno · 04-17-2009, 09:51 AM

How about lesser praised lulz raps

No one inspires lulz like kool keith imo

Black · 04-17-2009, 10:02 AM

INFLUENTIAL is the key word here

chuck d/ flav
and biggie

i dont even really like biggie, but he has influenced rap/hip hop so fucking much.
not even necessarily in a good way.

verklingen · 04-17-2009, 10:04 AM

how about wu tang clan for their self-promotion aspect

**SageTree** · 04-17-2009, 10:28 AM

<(I pity the fool who doesn't give WU TANG props.....They aint nothing to fuck with)

Grieves · 04-17-2009, 10:56 AM

punk rockers like patti smith were rapping in the late 60's - early 70's...

cantSEEme · 04-17-2009, 11:04 AM

^lol! good point. blondie, niggas.

**SageTree** · 04-17-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by grieves

punk rockers like patti smith were rapping in the late 60's - early 70's...

This is really what my first response was all about....where did it start? People who came before rap who influenced rap still puts them in the scope in my mind. I was thinking Skat was an early form as well.

cantSEEme · 04-17-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SageTree

This is really what my first response was all about....where did it start?

african music (the continent) is very percussive with very "rappish" spoken word lyrics. also, those old beatniks and their spoken word "raps" over bongos in the 50's/60's. i dont think hip hop has one point of origin. thats why when you answer the question "who is the most influential rapper", there are numerous correct answers.

sublimerig · 04-17-2009, 11:18 AM

as far as i'm concerned the most influential rapper ever was snow.

what's more hip hop than a white dude with a fake jamaican accent from canada?

nothing i tells ya

Grieves · 04-17-2009, 11:20 AM

Rap is as organic and ever evolving as any other musical form...Trying to pinpoint the origins is near impossible because all artists borrow what they like from everything they hear and different group members bring different influences, sounds, and techniques...No one person can lay claim to creating it, just taking it to new highs in evolution...

K10 · 04-17-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by grieves

Rap is as organic and ever evolving as any other musical form...Trying to pinpoint the origins is near impossible because all artists borrow what they like from everything they hear and different group members bring different influences, sounds, and techniques...No one person can lay claim to creating it, just taking it to new highs in evolution...

I would say you can pin point to some degree where what we consider to be rap really started. Jamaica. Dub music was the first time people started taking pre-recorded music and altering it. Furthermore the popular format in Jamaica at that time was a DJ spinning dub with someone rhythmically talking over it. Not complex rhymes, but rhymes none the less.

**farmergiles** · 04-17-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by K10

I would say you can pin point to some degree where what we consider to be rap really started. Jamaica. Dub music was the first time people started taking pre-recorded music and altering it. Furthermore the popular format in Jamaica at that time was a DJ spinning dub with someone rhythmically talking over it. Not complex rhymes, but rhymes none the less.

Toasting was around in Jamaica long before dub

.

K10 · 04-17-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by farmergiles

Toasting was around in Jamaica long before dub

.

Indeed....I just paired it with dub for effect.

**Bearsy** · 04-17-2009, 12:59 PM

Ultramagnetic MCs

al-Mu'akhkhir · 04-17-2009, 08:31 PM

man fuck all y'all - wu tang. influential! omg. get learned you fags.

Ego Tripping · 04-17-2009, 08:53 PM

Most influential is tough, since you can point at a select few that really shifted the genre, and they are pretty much all listed here. I'll go for some later choices that I highly respect and think they are still influencing shit:

de la

tribe

J/K fuck MC Hammer...

pharcyde

and last but not least:

Geeno · 04-17-2009, 09:11 PM

^good

Man in Black · 04-17-2009, 09:50 PM

ya real good

Psilocychosis · 04-18-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by my_scatterheart

KRS One

yup.

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sublimerig I'm a rhythm addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: P FUCKING A Posts: 228 Thanks: 40 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	as far as i'm concerned the most influential rapper ever was snow. what's more hip hop than a white dude with a fake jamaican accent from canada? nothing i tells ya __________________ All that I need is the air that I breathe And all that I need are things I don't need And all that really matters is what matters to me Blind Melon

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cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,051 Thanks: 152 Thanked 127 Times in 457 Posts	^lol! good point. blondie, niggas.

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Grieves Biblioburro... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Terra Sancta Posts: 11,588 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,903 Thanked 2,559 Times in 1,424 Posts	Rap is as organic and ever evolving as any other musical form...Trying to pinpoint the origins is near impossible because all artists borrow what they like from everything they hear and different group members bring different influences, sounds, and techniques...No one person can lay claim to creating it, just taking it to new highs in evolution... __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

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al-Mu'akhkhir Vem Para Ficar Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in some pussy Posts: 3,265 Thanks: 500 Thanked 351 Times in 270 Posts	man fuck all y'all - wu tang. influential! omg. get learned you fags. __________________

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Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,461 Thanks: 229 Thanked 657 Times in 438 Posts	Most influential is tough, since you can point at a select few that really shifted the genre, and they are pretty much all listed here. I'll go for some later choices that I highly respect and think they are still influencing shit: de la tribe J/K fuck MC Hammer... pharcyde and last but not least: __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day.

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