Mafoo

i think the really great and noticeable artists are the ones that can use tastes of many genres/subgenres, w/e you wanna call them, in each track they produce. the inovative ones dont stick to one form, they build off of it and draw influence from many different styles and even nonmusical sounds. and after a while that fresh sound they create becomes the foundation for a new sound to be created by drawing on new sources of inspiration.

it would be really difficult at this point to come up with a completely "new" never been touched style/ structure. so people end up working up from the basics and modifying the sound slightly to make it their own.

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Being

while i agree with the first paragraph, and i think there are too few artists that don't stick to any genre, i don't think any truly 100% creative artist builds off any genre.

i think it is completely possible, as long as you don't have any structure in mind when creating, to create new styles and structures. as soon as you have a particular style in mind, you are going to lean toward and build off of that. to me thats not being creative, thats modifying what someone else has already created.

imo to be truly creative you don't start with any style/structure, you just start from whatever is in your mind

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scottishbastard

I don't agree. I think categorizing music helps people discover more artists altogether. For instance I used to be into Green Day when I was a preteen. If I searched for other "punk" bands then I might run into bands that sound nothing like green day such as suicidal tendencies, or deep wound, or spazz because theyre all under the umbrella of punk rock. But if I searched for "pop punk" I would find bands much more similar like the The vandals or Nofx. But if I searched for "East bay pop punk" I'd find bands like Sweet baby, the Mr T experience, and crimpshrine who are much better than anyone else I just named in relation to liking bands that sound somewhat like green day.
Without overcategorization we'd have Against Me! and Joni Mitchell under the same category of folk music.
And what is our other option? Just calling all music, music? So next time someone go's to search for something, and someones like "what do you like?" you're like "Music dude...".

I totally feel you on this subject, but it's really necessary to advertise exactly what you are these days, since everyone and their mother has music on myspace and such now. You cant take the time to listen to everybody.

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No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
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And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
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scottishbastard

Oh and yeah, Gabber a.k.a. hardcore is just really obnoxious loud bullshit, and hardstyle is really obnoxious loud bullshit with shitty trance music burning out your brain cells in the background.

And as far as dubstep artists...Shit. My girl and I go to a ton of Jungle d & b, and ragga jungle parties in LA/Hollywood/Downtown. The two artists I think of with dubstep are the local Dj's GENERAL MALICE who does mostly ragga jungle/hip hop but his newest record (I think it's the newest) has tons of dubstep on it like the song "Step with me". And then there's R.A.W. aka HEADHUNTER aka 6BLOCC...Anyways. As R.A.W. he does mostly jungle, but as 6blocc he does mostly dubstep.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

Being

Yes, I do. because I try to appreciate all aspects of music

And i think what you are describing proves exactly my point. Instead of just browsing the net finding new things, you are confining yourself to certain sub genres, therefore possibly missing a ton of very good music because you suspect the industry has defined them correctly so for you to not like them.

In my opinion, there is beauty to be found in every major genre. I personally like to explore all music and find the good in every artist, and if i can't then i don't like that artist.

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scottishbastard

Dude, I see what youre saying. Browsing the net finding random shit is cool, but in this day of myspace music and FTP programs it is fucking impossible to weed out what sucks and what doesnt. If I searched for FOLK, or PUNK, or INDIE I would get atleast 80% bullshit. I have found way more bands by looking at how they describe themselves or how others describe them.

And believe me I listen to basically everything... Outlaw country, blue grass, americana, celtic folk, celtic punk, folk punk, antifolk, freak folk, indie pop, noise, indie rock, industrial rock, hardcore punk, first wave punk, 60s garage, surf rock, drum n bass, grime etc As a lover of all music I still think in modern times it helps to know what youre getting before you get it.

The problem isnt too many sub genres, the problem is too many people trying to place themselves in the same umbrella genre. Like, how can you justify having Blink 182 and xCharles Bronsonx both defined as punk? It's just to general of a term, as are most.

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

Being

When you search only certain sub sub sub genres, you will miss too much music. music exploration always has been and still should be weeding through the majority of crap to find the gems. Thats why its exploration. stop being lazy and put some effort into it. (no offense to you in particular)

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ChiefBongWater

Im not done with this thread yet damnit! lol

You guys like any of the chiller shit? Caspa got some chill tunes


And some more wobble for ya

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ChiefBongWater

Heres a link to a nasty mmix------> THE STINK MIX 3 - SALIROPHILIA.mp3 -free download


1 hour of rude filthy basssssssss n other such things =)

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Krunk

free dubstep mix:

http://e2ma.net/go/2258893015/205426...line3.0mix.mp3

nasty


as for the giant speaker problem- expensive headphones are a step up, but its nothing like live

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MellowLady

ChiefBongWater,

I am so with ya on this! Thanks for the info.

What part of the Burgh are you from? I used to live there. I have people all over the area.


Take it Easy...Taking it Slow

ChiefBongWater

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Mafoo

last weekend i was at the effing MECCA of dubstep on the giggle stamps. i got to see bassnectar throw down a dubstep set, then 6blocc (OMG!), then donald glaude throwing down some high energy and dubstep and then to top off all of that, as if they werent enough, i got to see DJ DAN! i wouldnt call what he was playing dubstep but it definitely had some dubstep bass going on

if anyone wants to see what it was like, youtube "Jujubeats 2009 _____" and the artist





the stage lighting was owning my brains, trying to figure out what was in my head and what wasnt

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woomp wooomp woooomp womp womp whomp

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stonerkid

funny shit! i was just thinkin about makin a dubstep thread and i found this! sweeet! dubstep is the mofucking shit! its like house music on nitrous


o and a good dj-liquidstranger

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I'm down with it.

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Krunk

i used to love bassnectar then i hated bassnectar, but i just saw him for the first time in a year or so and he has a shitton of new material and fucking tore up all good and i was like fuuuuckkkk yeah man

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ChiefBongWater

How was dj dan dude? =)

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Mafoo

um SICK! hes got that old school vibe, which i like, but he also had such a unique style. hard to describe. heavy on the bass for sure. i was pretty zoned out the whole time, it was probably one of the craziest times ive had, ever . nice venue too, kinda on the little side but at the same time not crowded and brimming with lazers n shit, another






ps that dancing lazer on the trees was my favorite thing ever

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ChiefBongWater

Craziness! that is heavy. lol that looked a decent size tho dude


The ass cheek lazzzers on the tree was priceless

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