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Old 04-26-2010, 07:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^not if you're a band. That people pay to see
When I saw MGMT live, they were pretty good.

I'm slowly digging this new album, it sounds better with headphones and not expecting "more of the same."
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Playing on a talk show is basically volunteering for a bad set...You're there playing for an asshole who doesn't care about anything more than advertising dollars, you only get 2 songs (if you are lucky) and you have to "play" on a tiny set...I use the parentheses because most shows like snl are pre-recorded, or the band is live but the sound is dubed from an earlier performance/album version...

Judging a band's sound on a talk show performance is like judging a movie actor's ability on their performance in a commercial...
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Tons of bands have blown me away on tv show performances, tbh.
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got any examples or just "tons"...
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I don't take you seriously.

APC always did great tv sets. Jill Scott, Badu, Westerberg did one of my favorite TV performances of all time. A lot of the bands I've ever liked that I have managed to catch on tv have done heaps better than MGMT. Sad fact is that some bands just aren't very good outside of the studio.
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Well I thanked the post so I'll throw in my 2 cents. It's pretty ridiculous to write off a TV performance as immediate shit. If anything there are plenty of variables that are able to work in the bands favor. I understand where you're coming from but either way if the band is halfway decent they should be able to churn out a pretty decent performance. That wasn't even the basis of the original argument though, the original argument was that if you're in a band that people are paying to see perform you should be able to at least keep up with the albums you're putting out if not top them.

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and this one was just funny.


And speaking of Badu, I dug this one a lot from the other day...


And speaking of Fallon Glen Hansard turned in an amazing performance of REM's Hairshirt on there but it's always a bitch to find video of. Well I found audio of Hansard anyway. http://www.zshare.net/audio/75453502447aebaa/
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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the original argument was that if you're in a band that people are paying to see perform you should be able to at least keep up with the albums you're putting out if not top them.
eh

well if thats the argument i think MGMT's performance is at least 'keeping up' with the record, i dont like the songs they played but they are at least faithful to the sound of what you hear on the album.

if you dont like their music thats one thing but i think any music acts that are even decently successful are expected to 'keep up' with their music onstage. my point was simply that some musicians are better performers/entertainers than others and its possible to appreciate, say, a musicians songwriting ability while recognizing they arent the best natural entertainer...
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Uh I think you were the one that said they were better in the studio than they were at performing which is what prompted this whole thing? If that performance is what they are doing on the record I'm not interested.
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I don't take you seriously.

APC always did great tv sets. Jill Scott, Badu, Westerberg did one of my favorite TV performances of all time. A lot of the bands I've ever liked that I have managed to catch on tv have done heaps better than MGMT. Sad fact is that some bands just aren't very good outside of the studio.
Don't get me wrong, I was not in any way defending MGMT with that Talk Show nonsense...But thanks for the criticism...

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Well I thanked the post so I'll throw in my 2 cents. It's pretty ridiculous to write off a TV performance as immediate shit. If anything there are plenty of variables that are able to work in the bands favor. I understand where you're coming from but either way if the band is halfway decent they should be able to churn out a pretty decent performance. That wasn't even the basis of the original argument though, the original argument was that if you're in a band that people are paying to see perform you should be able to at least keep up with the albums you're putting out if not top them.

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and this one was just funny.


And speaking of Badu, I dug this one a lot from the other day...


And speaking of Fallon Glen Hansard turned in an amazing performance of REM's Hairshirt on there but it's always a bitch to find video of. Well I found audio of Hansard anyway. zSHARE - Glen Hansard - Hairshirt _R.E.M. cover on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon 03-12-2009_.mp3

Thank you for coming through with some actual substance, and not off handed comments that don't pertain to the discussion...

I have seen far more bands that could rock a bar/festie etc, but for the reasons described on the late night variety circuit, they sucked...I am open to any form of live music but I approach Late Night performances with a sense of apprehension...It could just be the disconnection between seeing something actually live vs. tv live...They just can't be compared...
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best talk show performance ever- a tripped out syd staring blankly into the camera barely strumming his guitar

shortly after this, they just stopped going to pick him up for rehearsals and he would show up at gigs just to stare at david gilmour the whole time

Dailymotion - Pink floyd Syd Barrett apples & oranges - a Music video

that set the standard imo, i love syd
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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got any examples or just "tons"...
You mean like this? Don't start shit like a dumb dick and then get mad when I respond. Fact of the matter is that most good bands play well regardless of what platform.
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Don't get me wrong, I was not in any way defending MGMT with that Talk Show nonsense...But thanks for the criticism...

Thank you for coming through with some actual substance, and not off handed comments that don't pertain to the discussion...

I have seen far more bands that could rock a bar/festie etc, but for the reasons described on the late night variety circuit, they sucked...I am open to any form of live music but I approach Late Night performances with a sense of apprehension...It could just be the disconnection between seeing something actually live vs. tv live...They just can't be compared...
In all fairness her response was a direct reply to something that was said by waves who started the thread so it was pretty directly tied into the discussion. I only really see two off handed comments in the thread, one being yours and one being fistingpeace or whoever.

And yeah, I mean of course things will be better in person and anyone is subject to a bad night and/or anything going wrong and it's a little unfair to write them off completely for what could simply amount to bad luck. However that performance was not only boring but I wasn't impressed at all musically, it was all around bad.
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You mean like this? Don't start shit like a dumb dick and then get mad when I respond. Fact of the matter is that most good bands play well regardless of what platform.
define "good band"

lol

so i can argue my subjective opinion of what constitutes a good performance and good music with you

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lolPeople that are capable of playing well? lol
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You don't have to pee yourself. I think it's telling of a band if they can't play well live. If you're only good in the studio, when you get 16million tries that are all stitched together, I don't consider you as good of a band as one who can play in the studio AND live. I don't see what the big deal is. lol
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You mean like this? Don't start shit like a dumb dick and then get mad when I respond. Fact of the matter is that most good bands play well regardless of what platform.
I was baiting for videos, that is all...Myx provided, you did not...Don't make it personal...
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