Lady GaGa's Alejandro is way off base (IMO)

Mercury · 06-09-2010, 05:04 PM

I've dug Lady GaGa's aesthetic so far. Her videos are always visually captivating, this one is no exception really. So why the fail? Well after hearing the Alejandro song a hundered times on the radio I was expecting something a little more, shall we say, hispanic. I'm surprised to see that the video to the song is decisively nothing at all like how it sounds. It's just Naziism, there's no other way to describe it.

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The_Jester · 06-09-2010, 05:16 PM

I respect all artists. However I am incredibly sick of sensationalism, and how it is incorporated into youth cultural psychology and capitalistic profiteering.

Mercury · 06-09-2010, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jester

I respect all artists. However I am incredibly sick of sensationalism, and how it is incorporated into youth cultural psychology and capitalistic profiteering.

Exactly. She's tricking 9-14 year olds into thinking she is any different than the marilyn mansons and the madonnas and the alice coopers than came before her. it's all one vicious cycle that feeds on young, naive minds.

Mercury · 06-09-2010, 05:26 PM

her outfits are pretty cool though....

Rubix · 06-09-2010, 05:44 PM

lol at lady gaga forcing Christina Agulara to cancel her tour for being a hasben

bubbler211 · 06-09-2010, 05:53 PM

how may people have seen the babies dancing around that the moms have dressed up to look like ga ga? you dam sure never saw any people dancing with their kids dressed up like Janis or Jimmy?

crookedhatinator45 · 06-09-2010, 05:57 PM

so she thinks she's bowie?

**~~Dantastic~~** · 06-09-2010, 06:36 PM

she is bowie, she is manson, she is maddona, shes just the next big puppet in line for the masses.

Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet | The Vigilant Citizen

and merc..."it's all one vicious cycle that feeds on young, naive minds."

You have no idea how right you even are....

06-09-2010, 07:42 PM

i hate her shoes.

The_Jester · 06-09-2010, 08:07 PM

woah woah woah woah woah. slow down on the bowie talk. Bowie is a miracle!

Mercury · 06-09-2010, 08:19 PM

I gave Bowie a chance. I bought his greatest hits CD and listened to it once or twice and never touched it again. He had a great voice but his melodies were so, I dunno, shakey or something. It's like I kept expecting him to get into the groove, as if he were building up to something, but his music never quite seemed to get there. His songs just quiver, tease and end.

**Mafoo** · 06-09-2010, 08:21 PM

wow that link dantastic posted is sure to fuck with your head a little

Mercury · 06-09-2010, 08:29 PM

^Yeah. But it raises a good point that Lady Gaga takes satanic imagery to a blatant level that makes one question the credibility of it.

**~~Dantastic~~** · 06-09-2010, 09:17 PM

ok merc, question the credibility of it, without doing any research yourself...to that I say this...

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance; that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
-- Herbert Spencer

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
-- Albert Einstein

"A society whose citizens refuse to see and investigate the facts, who refuse to believe that their government and their media will routinely lie to them and fabricate a reality contrary to verifiable facts, is a society that chooses and deserves the Police State Dictatorship it's going to get."
-- Ian Williams Goddard

You guys are so smug, with your sureness of your world...it makes me lol, I guess the 15 years of research ive done isnt credible either...thanks for calling me a liar...

**Mafoo** · 06-09-2010, 09:35 PM

its hard to just go from, o we're all gonna live happily ever after, to holy shit lady gaga is an illuminatti puppet. we need time

Mercury · 06-09-2010, 09:48 PM

Here we go: Mercury post #6,666. I attempt to decipher my latest issue of Vogue.

Right off the bat I notice Summer, Sizzle, 65. Six letters in summer, six letters in sizzle, and the six right beneath it. Further down I notice "How to get deeper, (better sleep)". A sexually suggestive way of phrasing that.

Turn the page and I see this Lancome ad. Only unlike this picture, the left half of her face is covered with a fold out page.

Next page is a Banana Republic ad where the model is clearly doing a lose devil horn hand gesture.

I do my investigations. (sorry for the sloppy post layout)

**~~Dantastic~~** · 06-09-2010, 10:03 PM

Director of her video paparazzi wearing a baphomet(goat of mendes) t-shirt....but im sure allegations of satanic imagery in her videos is just crazy talk based on nothing...

merc, wake the fuck up and stop trying to be funny.

Heres a quote from bowie..

Crowley? nah he cant be satanic, he just started the church of satan and the oto...nah hes just a guy who taught bowie stuff...right?

**Mafoo** · 06-09-2010, 10:07 PM

the director was what tripped me out most about that article. its definitely a strange situation. ill have to look into it more, thanks for tripping me out dammit

Mercury · 06-09-2010, 10:13 PM

The question I have is of the logistics of it. Must you sell your soul at the crossroads? Or is practicing the occult publicly yet covertly enough to satisfy? Is the fame granted by the illuminati or the devil himself? In other words, if I were to begin dropping mad symbolism and ritualism would this automatically ascend me to higher levels of fame and fortune? Or is it not a 100% guarantee?

bubbler211 · 06-09-2010, 10:13 PM

no body seems to remember what the lead singer of nin said about bowie? anybody else see that interview that was on mtv? now i came along in the 70s i remeber several of my freinds all woman saying that saw bowie at such a place in like 71 saying that guys changed my life,he was and is looked at like a god to those chicks

06-09-2010, 05:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mercury Special Delivery Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The States Posts: 8,150 Thanks: 294 Thanked 801 Times in 539 Posts	Lady GaGa's Alejandro is way off base (IMO) I've dug Lady GaGa's aesthetic so far. Her videos are always visually captivating, this one is no exception really. So why the fail? Well after hearing the Alejandro song a hundered times on the radio I was expecting something a little more, shall we say, hispanic. I'm surprised to see that the video to the song is decisively nothing at all like how it sounds. It's just Naziism, there's no other way to describe it. <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/niqrrmev4mA&hl=en_US &fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScree n" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptacc ess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/niqrrmev4mA&hl=en_US &fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="a lways" allowfullscreen="tru e" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

06-09-2010, 05:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Jester The Fool Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 365 Thanks: 239 Thanked 178 Times in 98 Posts	I respect all artists. However I am incredibly sick of sensationalism, and how it is incorporated into youth cultural psychology and capitalistic profiteering. __________________ In LOVING kindness, The forum fool.

06-09-2010, 08:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
The_Jester The Fool Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 365 Thanks: 239 Thanked 178 Times in 98 Posts	woah woah woah woah woah. slow down on the bowie talk. Bowie is a miracle! __________________ In LOVING kindness, The forum fool.

06-09-2010, 08:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	wow that link dantastic posted is sure to fuck with your head a little __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

06-09-2010, 09:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
~~Dantastic~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: A suburb Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 285 Thanked 325 Times in 219 Posts	ok merc, question the credibility of it, without doing any research yourself...to that I say this... "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance; that principle is contempt prior to investigation." -- Herbert Spencer "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -- Albert Einstein "A society whose citizens refuse to see and investigate the facts, who refuse to believe that their government and their media will routinely lie to them and fabricate a reality contrary to verifiable facts, is a society that chooses and deserves the Police State Dictatorship it's going to get." -- Ian Williams Goddard You guys are so smug, with your sureness of your world...it makes me lol, I guess the 15 years of research ive done isnt credible either...thanks for calling me a liar... Last edited by Dantastic; 06-09-2010 at 09:24 PM.

06-09-2010, 05:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mercury Special Delivery Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The States Posts: 8,150 Thanks: 294 Thanked 801 Times in 539 Posts	her outfits are pretty cool though....

06-09-2010, 05:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
bubbler211 bubbler211 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: east coast USA Posts: 196 Thanks: 12 Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts	how may people have seen the babies dancing around that the moms have dressed up to look like ga ga? you dam sure never saw any people dancing with their kids dressed up like Janis or Jimmy?

06-09-2010, 06:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
~~Dantastic~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: A suburb Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 285 Thanked 325 Times in 219 Posts	she is bowie, she is manson, she is maddona, shes just the next big puppet in line for the masses. Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet \| The Vigilant Citizen and merc..."it's all one vicious cycle that feeds on young, naive minds." You have no idea how right you even are....

06-09-2010, 07:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
turmaline Guest Posts: n/a	i hate her shoes.

06-09-2010, 08:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mercury Special Delivery Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The States Posts: 8,150 Thanks: 294 Thanked 801 Times in 539 Posts	I gave Bowie a chance. I bought his greatest hits CD and listened to it once or twice and never touched it again. He had a great voice but his melodies were so, I dunno, shakey or something. It's like I kept expecting him to get into the groove, as if he were building up to something, but his music never quite seemed to get there. His songs just quiver, tease and end.

06-09-2010, 08:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mercury Special Delivery Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The States Posts: 8,150 Thanks: 294 Thanked 801 Times in 539 Posts	^Yeah. But it raises a good point that Lady Gaga takes satanic imagery to a blatant level that makes one question the credibility of it.

06-09-2010, 09:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	its hard to just go from, o we're all gonna live happily ever after, to holy shit lady gaga is an illuminatti puppet. we need time __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

06-09-2010, 09:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mercury Special Delivery Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The States Posts: 8,150 Thanks: 294 Thanked 801 Times in 539 Posts	Here we go: Mercury post #6,666. I attempt to decipher my latest issue of Vogue. Right off the bat I notice Summer, Sizzle, 65. Six letters in summer, six letters in sizzle, and the six right beneath it. Further down I notice "How to get deeper, (better sleep)". A sexually suggestive way of phrasing that. Turn the page and I see this Lancome ad. Only unlike this picture, the left half of her face is covered with a fold out page. Next page is a Banana Republic ad where the model is clearly doing a lose devil horn hand gesture. I do my investigations. (sorry for the sloppy post layout) Attached Images Last edited by Mercury; 06-09-2010 at 09:51 PM.

06-09-2010, 10:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
~~Dantastic~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: A suburb Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 285 Thanked 325 Times in 219 Posts	Director of her video paparazzi wearing a baphomet(goat of mendes) t-shirt....but im sure allegations of satanic imagery in her videos is just crazy talk based on nothing... merc, wake the fuck up and stop trying to be funny. Heres a quote from bowie.. Crowley? nah he cant be satanic, he just started the church of satan and the oto...nah hes just a guy who taught bowie stuff...right? Last edited by Dantastic; 06-09-2010 at 10:13 PM.

06-09-2010, 10:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	the director was what tripped me out most about that article. its definitely a strange situation. ill have to look into it more, thanks for tripping me out dammit __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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06-09-2010, 10:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mercury Special Delivery Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The States Posts: 8,150 Thanks: 294 Thanked 801 Times in 539 Posts	The question I have is of the logistics of it. Must you sell your soul at the crossroads? Or is practicing the occult publicly yet covertly enough to satisfy? Is the fame granted by the illuminati or the devil himself? In other words, if I were to begin dropping mad symbolism and ritualism would this automatically ascend me to higher levels of fame and fortune? Or is it not a 100% guarantee?

06-09-2010, 10:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
bubbler211 bubbler211 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: east coast USA Posts: 196 Thanks: 12 Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts	no body seems to remember what the lead singer of nin said about bowie? anybody else see that interview that was on mtv? now i came along in the 70s i remeber several of my freinds all woman saying that saw bowie at such a place in like 71 saying that guys changed my life,he was and is looked at like a god to those chicks Last edited by bubbler211; 06-09-2010 at 10:20 PM.

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