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Old 12-17-2006, 12:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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fool proof outdoor pest control

Hey, i plan to start a large outdoor crop this upcoming season... so i know a few ways to keep rodents and larger animals away from outdoor crops (i.e: dried blood, hair, etc...) but i would like to hear some more efficient ways, and hopefully some first hand experience with outdoor pest control (all organic please ) also, pest control advice on a smaller scale(bugs)...
any info is appreciated
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edit~ I am most concerned with animals such as deer and squirrels.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The thing that works best for rabbits is chickenwire cage12"x12"and8"high around the plant with a generous sprinkling around the outside with decon.(mice, rats ect) However a deer will move the cage or squish it or my favorite, just eat what grows out of the cage.I have heard that cougar pee is available at some nurserys to keep deer away from roses. I cant use it cause it might attract the real thing, not good for the little animals here.
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have heard that cougar pee is available at some nurserys to keep deer away from roses. I cant use it cause it might attract the real thing, not good for the little animals here.
Various predator urines are also available at sporting goods stores; ask for hunting scents. I use Red Fox urine on my boots when I'm hunting.

Also, if you have dogs, you can use their favorite piss rocks, logs, etc.
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Piss on it!

No really, do it yourself, most animals will stay well clear of human marked territory. So have a few beers and start writing your name in the garden.
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Piss on it!

No really, do it yourself, most animals will stay well clear of human marked territory. So have a few beers and start writing your name in the garden.
can anyone confirm this?
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Im not sure but ive heard of pissing around your tent when camping to keep animals away..... But I dont know about it being good for plants but I think it would.....
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Okay well, I guess I didn't mean piss on it, I just meant around the area to keep the animals out of reach all together.
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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you could get an electronic pest repeller that uses 105db sound in a range of 35-65khz to repel rodents
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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damn i thought u had an idea for how to make what the thread title is.


as far as im concerned there is no fool proof outdoor garden.... they are tough.
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So have a few beers and start writing your name in the garden.

you sir, are a wise, wise man.
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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can anyone confirm this?
Confirmed.

The urine of a meat eater always acts as a "warning sign" for plant eaters. So unless yer a vegetarian, pissing on nearby trees & bushes (your dog, too) every time you visit will discourage plant eaters from visiting.

And so what if you (or your dog) piss on yer weed once or twice a month? (unless yer on some funky meds that come out in yer urine) As long as you dont piss on it every day, it ain't gonna hurt it in the long run. Buds generally form above casual pissing level outdoors. And urea nitrate (in urine) is used as a fertilizer.

The only thing I can think of that will seek out human/dog odors in the wild are stray dogs. And human acclimitized bears & racoons, but they dont (usually or intentionally) detsroy crops. Everything else shys away from man.

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Dogs lift their leg on a tree to mark their height, the higher up the wall, the bigger the dog. Use this logic when pissing on trees......dont mark the grass areas around the site, mark the more upright structures.
I carry in 2L I prepare earlier.
I collect hair from the grooming brush of my dogs and spread that around the site, and I do alot of soil prep in the off season....I always take the dogs. I use small bells on fishing line about 30cm off the ground....animals wont stay in a area that they have been startled in...and they are unlikely to return.
As for other bugs and shit....that is a different topic altogether. If you find info post it here though, I followed threads that ran for years on that topic on other boards. But I didnt pick alot up. Most ppl manage the issues as they arrive. If you observe it soon enough most probs have an easy, reliable, organic solution.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If there's one thiog I know, it's PEST Control~

Here's what 'ya need.

1 Dog willing to donate hair (Local Pet Groomer too)
Human hair (Local stylist)
Moth Balls (Good for 4-5 rains)
Used motor oil in a container

There's a few others but for now that's all I can think of~

Cheap and effective.

Moose are a curious animal and will walk in your tracks. You've gotta piss him off and ruin his area by walking in his trail. Put obstacles with distinct human and canine smells on that "barrage"
Like sticks protruding right in his path.He will move on........
As for the bear, another curious, destructive beast. I lure him away as well as using me tricks. Lure you say, "Road Kill". and honey. Keep him busy hoping somewhere's else hoping for a snack.
Otter they slide in and eat the stalk at ground level. His slide in and out trail must be destroyed. Leave him a tasty red pepper paste on the stalk. He also will move to another swamp. Deer won't eat a plant in bud and rarely do they munch. They pose no threat in my experience. When you come in, they leave.
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The most common predator out there is the lowly garden slug.
They can strip a new plant down to nothing in a night.
Slug Bait,is a must.
hehehe... Yes! I do love the weed....
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slugs can be kept away using copper tape if seriously organic conditions, but slug baits are better.
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Soiled kitty liter. A cat is a cat.
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Have you tried the cat litter?
I would be afraid it would be a Lure.......wolf, bear and lynx are not afraid of kitty. Human hair is the best.......get the hair from the local barber. He may ask what you want it for. It's a well known animal repellant for gardens. It keeps it's natural odour all summer~
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