veg cycle / flowering

braindead420 · 02-11-2009, 11:27 PM

got an indica dominant strain. will be four weeks at midnight on the seventeenth. how long should the veg cycle be? i think i see some pistols or whatever they are called forming but they could just be new growth. and what exactly do i do as far as watering and lighting when it is time to flower. and how long is flowering? thank you in advance

Cerebro · 02-11-2009, 11:59 PM

How big is the plant?
How big is the grow space?
What lights are you using?
Are you using nutes? Which?

If you could answer most of these questions that will help you get a better answer.

braindead420 · 02-12-2009, 12:11 AM

four plants. eash about 4-5" above soil, 3 complete leaf sets, meaning 6 developed leaves. closet grow dont know exact size. jus the standard size bedroom closet. 2, 48 inch flourescent lights 40W each, 80w at 4100K, and two cfl bulbs 30W each, 60w at 3500K for a total of 10400 Lumens

braindead420 · 02-12-2009, 12:17 AM

and no nutes or food at all. just water

Thepizzaguy · 02-12-2009, 02:39 AM

You need a timer to set a flowering light schedule. You should make sure the area is dark when other lights. lamps are one. You're in a closet, so any light will come from top and/or bottom of door. The flowering time is unknown unless you have a specific strain. Plan on at least 70 days from the time you set the timer to 12/12. You can make watering a little easier if you use a measuring cup. A measuring cup will let you give each plant an exact amount of water.

braindead420 · 02-12-2009, 01:05 PM

ok thank you for the help. any word on how much water i should give them? i understand i use a measuring cup but like how much water for each plant. any advice on nutes? and how long until i need to change them to a flowering schedule

**Pharm Girl** · 02-12-2009, 01:25 PM

As far as watering goes......lift the pot up, if it's light, water 'em.

Nutes...........are you using the Miracle Grow? 10-52-10 to start..........then 20-20-20 for veg..........15-30-15 for flowering.

How tall are they now??

braindead420 · 02-12-2009, 01:39 PM

no miracle grow. no nutes. just water thus far. they are all ranging from 3-6 inches tall. they were all germinated and planted at the same time so they are the same age but some are stronger and shorter i think because of the fan. and plus when i moved them to individual pots they were a little shorter. and ive been trying not to overwater them so i have just been watering the area of the stem, and watering from the watering pans

braindead420 · 02-12-2009, 07:17 PM

any suggestions on wat food

braindead420 · 02-12-2009, 07:58 PM

i want to start flowering a.s.a.p so i need to know if four weeks is enough for veg or should i go to 5 or six

Xil · 02-12-2009, 09:35 PM

If your plants are that small you won't get much yield.

Make sure your lights are close enough, on for the correct amount of time. Make sure your plants are watered and fed. Let your plants get a bit bigger before flowering if yo want any kind of real yield.

braindead420 · 02-12-2009, 09:40 PM

i have had them under light 24 hours a day since planted

Thepizzaguy · 02-13-2009, 12:58 AM

Well you have a few options.

1. You can flower them for 7-10 days. Remove the males, and then finish flowering the females.

2. After gender is known, you can revert back to 24/7 until the plants are taller.

3. Continue 24/7 light until they are as tall as you want them.

I remember my plants are close to 12 inches at 4 weeks with each plant averaging close to 4800 lumen. How much light are you running?

**~~SpankyMcLankey~~** · 02-13-2009, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koshiva

Nutrients = food. What would happen to any living thing which was denied food?

So...your plants thus far have survived on what little nutrients existed in the soil. Who knows what was in there? Some soils can provide 'enough' nutrients for several weeks - hence why your plants are still alive. But I bet they look 'pale'.

False.

CO2 + 2 H2A + light energy → (CH2O)n + H2O + 2A

That's all a plant needs for basic survival.

It's not like it will be thriving though.

I'm completely natural over here(compost).

Cerebro · 02-13-2009, 01:38 AM

There are many options for nutes.
Many people like organic nutrients, either purchased from department stores, or made themselves from vegetable compost or worm farms etc.
If you have access to a hydro store they will have separate nutes for veg, and flower.
Otherwise, you'll have to see what you have access to.
There's thousands of brands, but it's not relevant if you live in the sticks.
If you could read up a little on NPK, or N:P:K, that would help.

braindead420 · 02-13-2009, 01:45 AM

Pizza Guy: 2, 48 inch flourescent lights 40W each, 80w at 4100K, and two cfl bulbs 30W each, 60w at 3500K for a total of 10400 Lumens. and flowering for 7-10 days sounds like something i want to try. but does it make a difference if there are preflowers yet?

Cerebro: i see myself making my own if thats possible. how might i do so?

Spanky: CO2 + 2 H2A + light energy → (CH2O)n + H2O + 2A . thats some crazy shit

**~~SpankyMcLankey~~** · 02-13-2009, 02:23 AM

6H2O + 6CO2+ Light Energy ----> C6H12O6+ 6O2

sorry, that's what I meant.

braindead420 · 02-13-2009, 10:09 AM

anyway to make compost or plant food in one day?all these guides take like 12-24 months.

Dandaweedman · 02-13-2009, 01:05 PM

Buy it?
Composting takes time as it's the heat and the microherd that breaks things down. They work fast but they are small

There are a lot of organic ones that you bubble from 24 - 48 hours that are cheap and easy.
Alfalfa
Molassas
epsom salts
eggshells ground in the coffee grinder
Mike's hard lemonade*

There are probably a lot more should you do a google search on the subject.

*That's for me

braindead420 · 02-13-2009, 01:14 PM

what would happen if i chopped up some like celery n lettuce, n some other greens n soaked it in the water im going to water with? anything good? and what about doind the same thing with the chopping up greens, but instead of soaking in water jus putting on top of the soil

02-11-2009, 11:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	veg cycle / flowering got an indica dominant strain. will be four weeks at midnight on the seventeenth. how long should the veg cycle be? i think i see some pistols or whatever they are called forming but they could just be new growth. and what exactly do i do as far as watering and lighting when it is time to flower. and how long is flowering? thank you in advance __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

02-12-2009, 12:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	four plants. eash about 4-5" above soil, 3 complete leaf sets, meaning 6 developed leaves. closet grow dont know exact size. jus the standard size bedroom closet. 2, 48 inch flourescent lights 40W each, 80w at 4100K, and two cfl bulbs 30W each, 60w at 3500K for a total of 10400 Lumens __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

02-12-2009, 12:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	and no nutes or food at all. just water __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

02-12-2009, 01:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	ok thank you for the help. any word on how much water i should give them? i understand i use a measuring cup but like how much water for each plant. any advice on nutes? and how long until i need to change them to a flowering schedule __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

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Pharm Girl Looking for a Bone! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,203 Blog Entries: 13 Thanks: 2,553 Thanked 1,009 Times in 783 Posts	As far as watering goes......lift the pot up, if it's light, water 'em. Nutes...........are you using the Miracle Grow? 10-52-10 to start..........then 20-20-20 for veg..........15-30-15 for flowering. How tall are they now?? __________________ .....The Time has Come to 'Walk the Talk'.....~ ......A message for ALL from the Deer Tribe...~ It is a great journey — but you must do the walking and have the willingness to change and make the leap into the next level of human evolution. Become an inquisitive free thinking individual that takes responsibility for your life and the spiritual accountability to live life to the fullest. *Fuck the Monkeys*

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Thepizzaguy Currently deleting posts Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 132 Thanked 32 Times in 23 Posts	You need a timer to set a flowering light schedule. You should make sure the area is dark when other lights. lamps are one. You're in a closet, so any light will come from top and/or bottom of door. The flowering time is unknown unless you have a specific strain. Plan on at least 70 days from the time you set the timer to 12/12. You can make watering a little easier if you use a measuring cup. A measuring cup will let you give each plant an exact amount of water.

02-12-2009, 01:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	no miracle grow. no nutes. just water thus far. they are all ranging from 3-6 inches tall. they were all germinated and planted at the same time so they are the same age but some are stronger and shorter i think because of the fan. and plus when i moved them to individual pots they were a little shorter. and ive been trying not to overwater them so i have just been watering the area of the stem, and watering from the watering pans __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

02-12-2009, 07:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	any suggestions on wat food __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

02-12-2009, 07:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	i want to start flowering a.s.a.p so i need to know if four weeks is enough for veg or should i go to 5 or six __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

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Xil OD'ing on sobriety Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mizzura Posts: 3,292 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 993 Thanked 1,108 Times in 687 Posts	If your plants are that small you won't get much yield. Make sure your lights are close enough, on for the correct amount of time. Make sure your plants are watered and fed. Let your plants get a bit bigger before flowering if yo want any kind of real yield. __________________ Life is a waste of time and time is a waste of life, so get wasted all the time and have the time of your life

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braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	i have had them under light 24 hours a day since planted __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

02-13-2009, 12:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
Thepizzaguy Currently deleting posts Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 132 Thanked 32 Times in 23 Posts	Well you have a few options. 1. You can flower them for 7-10 days. Remove the males, and then finish flowering the females. 2. After gender is known, you can revert back to 24/7 until the plants are taller. 3. Continue 24/7 light until they are as tall as you want them. I remember my plants are close to 12 inches at 4 weeks with each plant averaging close to 4800 lumen. How much light are you running?

02-13-2009, 01:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Pizza Guy: 2, 48 inch flourescent lights 40W each, 80w at 4100K, and two cfl bulbs 30W each, 60w at 3500K for a total of 10400 Lumens. and flowering for 7-10 days sounds like something i want to try. but does it make a difference if there are preflowers yet? Cerebro: i see myself making my own if thats possible. how might i do so? Spanky: CO2 + 2 H2A + light energy → (CH2O)n + H2O + 2A . thats some crazy shit __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

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~~SpankyMcLankey~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,310 Thanks: 1,748 Thanked 1,063 Times in 703 Posts	6H2O + 6CO2+ Light Energy ----> C6H12O6+ 6O2 sorry, that's what I meant.

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braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	anyway to make compost or plant food in one day?all these guides take like 12-24 months. __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

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Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	Buy it? Composting takes time as it's the heat and the microherd that breaks things down. They work fast but they are small There are a lot of organic ones that you bubble from 24 - 48 hours that are cheap and easy. Alfalfa Molassas epsom salts eggshells ground in the coffee grinder Mike's hard lemonade* There are probably a lot more should you do a google search on the subject. *That's for me __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

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braindead420 Stanley Green Thumb Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 91 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	what would happen if i chopped up some like celery n lettuce, n some other greens n soaked it in the water im going to water with? anything good? and what about doind the same thing with the chopping up greens, but instead of soaking in water jus putting on top of the soil __________________ " am i supposed to feel something now? I dont feel high. . Am i high?... I dont feel high.. The sun... ah.. I dont feel high." peter

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