My Baby Ak ♥

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-12-2009, 10:59 AM

I bought this clone and planted it on July 16th. At time of planting, she was about 7 inches big. I thought I had a pic, but I can't find it.

Measuring her this morning, she's 2 feet 3inches.

This was taken this morning. I tied her down and to the side yesterday and almost immediately, she started growing up towards the sun.

Some random stats...she's in a half of a wine barrel, with wheels. I used Miracle Grow Potting soil, about 2c feet. 1cu of Organic Gardens soil, specific to vegetables, and 1cu of chicken manure compost.

Comments? Questions? How does she look? I think she's beautiful.

**Mafoo** · 08-12-2009, 11:01 AM

pretty little plant, i love seeing the different strains different leaves

so are you going to do that LST, or w/e its called?

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-12-2009, 11:03 AM

I'm not sure what LST is...lol.

**Mafoo** · 08-12-2009, 11:05 AM

me either LOL

i saw another thread showing a plant being trained to grow close to the soil, looked kinda like what youre diong..

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-12-2009, 11:09 AM

Hehe, thanks Turm.

I tie it down so the lower branches get more sun, more growth. There are ALOT of branches on her, especially down low, so the more that get the sun, the better.

**Mafoo** · 08-12-2009, 11:15 AM

i just found out, LST is low stress training.

Sugar420 · 08-12-2009, 12:05 PM

looks good. you going to finish her outdoors?

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-12-2009, 12:12 PM

Yes. She's always been outdoors, so that's where I'll finish her. Any tips?

Edit - well, i suppose as a wee clone, she wasn't outdoors. but she has been since i brought her home.

Sugar420 · 08-12-2009, 12:50 PM

i dont know about your area but where i am when wet weather comes around i get a lot of powdery mildew as well as other evil molds /creeping rot. since you only got the 1 plant even a mild attack can devastate your final harvest... so just keep an eye on the weather and be aware, ya know. i have read that a regular spray of soapy water can prevent mold/mildew from getting established, i dont know if its true -but i do know prevention is better than dealing with an already established colony.
i dont mean to make you worry, just a heads up since you have awhile to go

Peace seeker · 08-12-2009, 12:54 PM

she looks good

give her as much sun as u can and dont overwater. Do the complete dry/wet cycle. You started her on the wrong pot (too big for her). Plants need proper repoting (gradually) in order to grow roots and become big. If u put a clone straight to a big pot, she wont grow as big as a plant that did at least 3 gradual repots (from small to large)

Also the soil that you re using (mir.grow) wont give a very good taste to your buds (chem ferts)

the chicken manure isnt ideal for cannabis either (too strong and might give you ph problems along with the massive pot at an early stage).

Nevertheless she will survive just fine.

Looks good.

No need to lst imho. Let her grow up and big.

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-12-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace seeker

she looks good

give her as much sun as u can and dont overwater. Do the complete dry/wet cycle. You started her on the wrong pot (too big for her). Plants need proper repoting (gradually) in order to grow roots and become big. If u put a clone straight to a big pot, she wont grow as big as a plant that did at least 3 gradual repots (from small to large).

Now, if I were going to plant her in the ground, I wouldn't have repotted up to planting her in the ground...it would have been straight from the pot to the ground. I don't see how going the same way, only into a large wine barrel would make a huge difference. It's still the "ground". Also, the soil in barrel is deeper than what's in the ground where our garden is.

Either way, I'm ok with her not being ginormous...thanks for the info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace seeker

Also the soil that you re using (mir.grow) wont give a very good taste to your buds (chem ferts)

This sucks. Is this a given, or just a possibility?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace seeker

the chicken manure isnt ideal for cannabis either (too strong and might give you ph problems along with the massive pot at an early stage).

If it's going to give ph problems, when would I be able to notice?

Thanks for all of the imput.

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-12-2009, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v3d4

i dont know about your area but where i am when wet weather comes around i get a lot of powdery mildew as well as other evil molds /creeping rot. since you only got the 1 plant even a mild attack can devastate your final harvest... so just keep an eye on the weather and be aware, ya know. i have read that a regular spray of soapy water can prevent mold/mildew from getting established, i dont know if its true -but i do know prevention is better than dealing with an already established colony.
i dont mean to make you worry, just a heads up since you have awhile to go

Thanks very much Veda. This is definitely good to know.

Flamingnun · 08-12-2009, 01:37 PM

AK-47/48/hybrid?

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-12-2009, 01:39 PM

Just AK-47.

Flamingnun · 08-12-2009, 01:47 PM

Nice.

Absynth420 · 08-12-2009, 01:57 PM

So, i guess the only question I have is...
will you marry me?!?!?!?!?

In all seriousness, I love ya, ASG. Youre very informative and always so helpful when i have a quandary or get in a panic (happens alot lately)
That girl looks like a beauty! I cant wait to see what she looks like say, late august or so. Nice! Very nice!

Peace seeker · 08-13-2009, 12:29 AM

ASG:

Miracle grow might be an "ok" soil for garden flowers, but most canna-growers avoid it like the plague.

Dont get me wrong, i ve seen big plants grow in that soil and with good sized buds. But, big fruits arent necessarily tasty fruits. Its like those big green peppers you see in the produce section of super markets. They look great and all, but they dont smell and they certainly dont have any taste.

But to be specific, the chemical ferts of the soil give buds that dont burn very well and taste kinda chemical... Not very sweet.

Not to worry though. No one got it right the first few times of growing. And we all still do little or bigger mistakes with our grows.

Dont feed any ferts for at least a month (the soil has plenty). Just plain water that has been sitting for 24hrs in an open container. This will get most of the chlorine out and the plants love it.

If you find a fish fert, try it. Plants do love it.

During flowering you can get a bio-fert (for bloom) like Biobizz, Canna-flora (i m trying to remember the name of another one that is available in the states)......Pure Blend Pro!

The reason its advisable to start with small pots, is to stimulate roots (so they can "fill" the pots) and not turn the soil "sour" (alkaline) from an early stage.

When the roots fill up the first pot (germinating pot) you move her on to a slightly bigger one. Now she has plenty of roots and with the fresh soil (and bigger shoes) she will take advantage of it and grow even bigger with even more roots. 2 weeks later you move her to an even bigger pot because her roots will have filled up the old pot.

The more root a plant has, the more nutrients and water she will be able to absorb. Thus giving you bigger and healthier plants. Thats why most nurseries (garden stores) do that with their plants.

I used to start plants in large containers myself. First they would grow really slow and then a month later they would grow fast. But everytime, i would notice that despite the large pots that i gave them (from an early stage), my yeild was never better than an ounce or two. When i harvested and took out the rootball to inspect it, i d notice that it was really small and underdeveloped. Thats why i never got proper yeilds.

Imho, proper repoting should be an individual chapter in todays grow books.

check out the two pics that i attached. The first one is from a cut with a poor root system. The 2nd one is from a plant that was gradually repoted. It took just 10 days for this rootball to form and as u can see it is ready for another transplant. Now she will take advantage of her new shoes and new (fresh) soil.

As for the manure....i aint a friend of manures. They can easily burn cuts or little plants. My dad lost some of his little pepper plants the other day, cause he gave em manure. Not all strains will react the same to manure. Some can take it (i.e NL) others will "fry" in a few days.

Thankfully this didnt happen with your AK cut.

But why use manure, when theres so many great bio-products (ferts) out there, you know?

All in all, your plant looks good and we are here to make sure that you get really yummy buds by harvest

Give her sun, sun and more sun.

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-15-2009, 04:10 PM

Her roots were MUCH more like the second pic when she came out of her pot.

Now, what should my next step be? I'm just letting her grow and be happy, in lots of sun. Where do I head from here? Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou all!

Sugar420 · 08-15-2009, 05:03 PM

me, id just give water until she starts flowering, then give somethig with phosphorus and potassium and micronutes as needed

**AlteredStateGrl** · 08-15-2009, 06:02 PM

thanks veda.

Today.

08-12-2009, 10:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where Trouble Melts Like Lemon Drops High Above the Chimney Tops... Posts: 10,445 Thanks: 2,135 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,089 Posts	My Baby Ak ♥ I bought this clone and planted it on July 16th. At time of planting, she was about 7 inches big. I thought I had a pic, but I can't find it. Measuring her this morning, she's 2 feet 3inches. This was taken this morning. I tied her down and to the side yesterday and almost immediately, she started growing up towards the sun. Some random stats...she's in a half of a wine barrel, with wheels. I used Miracle Grow Potting soil, about 2c feet. 1cu of Organic Gardens soil, specific to vegetables, and 1cu of chicken manure compost. Comments? Questions? How does she look? I think she's beautiful. Attached Images __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

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Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,962 Thanks: 3,491 Thanked 2,356 Times in 1,540 Posts	pretty little plant, i love seeing the different strains different leaves so are you going to do that LST, or w/e its called? __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where Trouble Melts Like Lemon Drops High Above the Chimney Tops... Posts: 10,445 Thanks: 2,135 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,089 Posts	I'm not sure what LST is...lol. __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

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Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,962 Thanks: 3,491 Thanked 2,356 Times in 1,540 Posts	me either LOL i saw another thread showing a plant being trained to grow close to the soil, looked kinda like what youre diong.. __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where Trouble Melts Like Lemon Drops High Above the Chimney Tops... Posts: 10,445 Thanks: 2,135 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,089 Posts	Hehe, thanks Turm. I tie it down so the lower branches get more sun, more growth. There are ALOT of branches on her, especially down low, so the more that get the sun, the better. __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

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Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,962 Thanks: 3,491 Thanked 2,356 Times in 1,540 Posts	i just found out, LST is low stress training. __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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Sugar420 Old School Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,093 Thanks: 32 Thanked 132 Times in 706 Posts	looks good. you going to finish her outdoors?

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AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where Trouble Melts Like Lemon Drops High Above the Chimney Tops... Posts: 10,445 Thanks: 2,135 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,089 Posts	Yes. She's always been outdoors, so that's where I'll finish her. Any tips? Edit - well, i suppose as a wee clone, she wasn't outdoors. but she has been since i brought her home. __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws. Last edited by AlteredStateGrl; 08-12-2009 at 12:17 PM.

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Sugar420 Old School Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,093 Thanks: 32 Thanked 132 Times in 706 Posts	i dont know about your area but where i am when wet weather comes around i get a lot of powdery mildew as well as other evil molds /creeping rot. since you only got the 1 plant even a mild attack can devastate your final harvest... so just keep an eye on the weather and be aware, ya know. i have read that a regular spray of soapy water can prevent mold/mildew from getting established, i dont know if its true -but i do know prevention is better than dealing with an already established colony. i dont mean to make you worry, just a heads up since you have awhile to go

08-12-2009, 12:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Peace seeker free the herb Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,830 Thanks: 749 Thanked 530 Times in 376 Posts	she looks good give her as much sun as u can and dont overwater. Do the complete dry/wet cycle. You started her on the wrong pot (too big for her). Plants need proper repoting (gradually) in order to grow roots and become big. If u put a clone straight to a big pot, she wont grow as big as a plant that did at least 3 gradual repots (from small to large) Also the soil that you re using (mir.grow) wont give a very good taste to your buds (chem ferts) the chicken manure isnt ideal for cannabis either (too strong and might give you ph problems along with the massive pot at an early stage). Nevertheless she will survive just fine. Looks good. No need to lst imho. Let her grow up and big.

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Flamingnun Shpadoinkle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 17,538 Thanks: 1,046 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,178 Posts	AK-47/48/hybrid? __________________

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AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where Trouble Melts Like Lemon Drops High Above the Chimney Tops... Posts: 10,445 Thanks: 2,135 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,089 Posts	Just AK-47. __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

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Flamingnun Shpadoinkle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 17,538 Thanks: 1,046 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,178 Posts	Nice. __________________

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Absynth420 Jedi Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Undisclosed Posts: 132 Thanks: 65 Thanked 46 Times in 21 Posts	So, i guess the only question I have is... will you marry me?!?!?!?!? In all seriousness, I love ya, ASG. Youre very informative and always so helpful when i have a quandary or get in a panic (happens alot lately) That girl looks like a beauty! I cant wait to see what she looks like say, late august or so. Nice! Very nice!

08-13-2009, 12:29 AM	#17 (permalink)
Peace seeker free the herb Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,830 Thanks: 749 Thanked 530 Times in 376 Posts	ASG: Miracle grow might be an "ok" soil for garden flowers, but most canna-growers avoid it like the plague. Dont get me wrong, i ve seen big plants grow in that soil and with good sized buds. But, big fruits arent necessarily tasty fruits. Its like those big green peppers you see in the produce section of super markets. They look great and all, but they dont smell and they certainly dont have any taste. But to be specific, the chemical ferts of the soil give buds that dont burn very well and taste kinda chemical... Not very sweet. Not to worry though. No one got it right the first few times of growing. And we all still do little or bigger mistakes with our grows. Dont feed any ferts for at least a month (the soil has plenty). Just plain water that has been sitting for 24hrs in an open container. This will get most of the chlorine out and the plants love it. If you find a fish fert, try it. Plants do love it. During flowering you can get a bio-fert (for bloom) like Biobizz, Canna-flora (i m trying to remember the name of another one that is available in the states)......Pure Blend Pro! The reason its advisable to start with small pots, is to stimulate roots (so they can "fill" the pots) and not turn the soil "sour" (alkaline) from an early stage. When the roots fill up the first pot (germinating pot) you move her on to a slightly bigger one. Now she has plenty of roots and with the fresh soil (and bigger shoes) she will take advantage of it and grow even bigger with even more roots. 2 weeks later you move her to an even bigger pot because her roots will have filled up the old pot. The more root a plant has, the more nutrients and water she will be able to absorb. Thus giving you bigger and healthier plants. Thats why most nurseries (garden stores) do that with their plants. I used to start plants in large containers myself. First they would grow really slow and then a month later they would grow fast. But everytime, i would notice that despite the large pots that i gave them (from an early stage), my yeild was never better than an ounce or two. When i harvested and took out the rootball to inspect it, i d notice that it was really small and underdeveloped. Thats why i never got proper yeilds. Imho, proper repoting should be an individual chapter in todays grow books. check out the two pics that i attached. The first one is from a cut with a poor root system. The 2nd one is from a plant that was gradually repoted. It took just 10 days for this rootball to form and as u can see it is ready for another transplant. Now she will take advantage of her new shoes and new (fresh) soil. As for the manure....i aint a friend of manures. They can easily burn cuts or little plants. My dad lost some of his little pepper plants the other day, cause he gave em manure. Not all strains will react the same to manure. Some can take it (i.e NL) others will "fry" in a few days. Thankfully this didnt happen with your AK cut. But why use manure, when theres so many great bio-products (ferts) out there, you know? All in all, your plant looks good and we are here to make sure that you get really yummy buds by harvest Give her sun, sun and more sun. Attached Images Last edited by Peace seeker; 08-13-2009 at 12:45 AM.

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AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where Trouble Melts Like Lemon Drops High Above the Chimney Tops... Posts: 10,445 Thanks: 2,135 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,089 Posts	Her roots were MUCH more like the second pic when she came out of her pot. Now, what should my next step be? I'm just letting her grow and be happy, in lots of sun. Where do I head from here? Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou all! __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

08-15-2009, 05:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
Sugar420 Old School Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,093 Thanks: 32 Thanked 132 Times in 706 Posts	me, id just give water until she starts flowering, then give somethig with phosphorus and potassium and micronutes as needed

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AlteredStateGrl (òÓ,)_\,,/ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where Trouble Melts Like Lemon Drops High Above the Chimney Tops... Posts: 10,445 Thanks: 2,135 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,089 Posts	thanks veda. Today. Attached Images __________________ The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

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