vaporedout

ok so im on day 5 of my clones in dirt, indoor 1000w hps, 1 gallon pots, i have had 1 watering since transplant into dirt (just water) and one watering with "house and gardens root excelurator" the guy at the hydro shop said 1.1ml per gallon water (bottle says 30ml to 100 liters). so far so good, temps right, humidity is right...i went and talked to the hydro guy again (for hours) he gave me more droppers and told me that 5ml is 1 teaspoon, for later in our veg cycle........ next watering(3rd) i used the root juice again but spaced it, well wandering off, i watered on the 8th in the morning 3 hours prior to the lights going off for 6 hours, and used 5 ml root excel. in 2 gallons of water........ space case... anyways the plants look great but im worried........ what are the possibilities? thats about double dosage . its numbers on the bottle are
1.3 - 0 - 0.7............... seem low enough but the babies are only 3 to 4 inches tall, should i use only water the next time they need it or just keep an eye on em and go along with the nute plans..... ps im taking very detialed notes on everything so if problems occur later i will have most precise numbers for yall. thanks again and ill post some teasers soon.......

farmergiles

They'll probably be fine, 1.3/0/0.7 is a pretty gentle fert.
You are right to be cautious with cuttings though, until they have developed roots they are fragile.

If over fertilised the plants will burn at the leaf tips.


You're using a 1000w hps with 5 day old cuttings? That's a bit overkill. How far away have you got the light? Be careful, 1000w will fry them quick if you get too close.

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vaporedout

right on for the help, yeah i thought about the watering being right as the lights went on instead of right before they went off, but this is a 1st indoor so ill just have to live and learn like i did with the outdoors. as far as the 1000, its about 2 feet above the babies, ive been checking for heat burn but none of that, the plants look great, green all that its just i had a stoner moment and over nuted them with root excelurator. another quick question. the mother i got the clones from must have been not that well taken care of because my clones had red stalks and stems, when i put them in soil after they looked like porcupines(roots), along with some epson salt, perlite, and happy frog. since then the stalk seems to be "zebraing" as in the stalk is red and green now as if the red is going away, was it probably the salt?? thats what i was told to put in so if it worked great!!! thanks again!

farmergiles

Red stems can be caused by nute deficiencies, low temps or are sometimes just due to genetics.

Epsom salts is unlikely to cause reddening.

Sounds like some minor nute issue which you now have sorted when you potted them up in new soil.

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noo...... the epson salt i was told will help get rid of the red.... they were red stalk clones in pyramid shaped sponges(dont know the name) when we got them..... they are golden pineapple clones. although since i added the salt to the happy frog soil then planted the clones the stalks have turned less red and more green, im gonna get a pic of what i mean on the next light cycle...... but now i have a humidity question........... when the are lights off, because i have air drawn from outside, the room gets to about 64degrees, the humidity then goes up when the lights are off also. what can i do to help, i dont want to put a heater in there, will another fan in there osculating in there help? my wife says we need a de-humidifier.......... . costly?? dunno, just tryin to stay away from 60%, its gotten up to 58% when the lights are off. when the lights are on everythings fine

ps, we did the same outdoor this last season from the same mother we got these from and our outdoor had 0% redness, if that helps, thanks again...........

farmergiles

Ah I get it re Epsoms. Magnesium helps nute transfer within the plant so will often help deficiencies. Love to see some pics.

re humidity- Air circulation and ventilation is always good but there isn't that much you can do without heating- the relative humidity always rises as the lights go off and the temperature goes down.
On the bright side, 60% max is ok. If you see readings above 75% and you have plants with big old colas then be very careful about any dead leaves that could start mould off.

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vaporedout

ok, just got off work and lights are on, checked em out and i measured yesterday the height of all of em, and i didnt feel like doin it today but i swear theyve grown almost an inch each and have newer leaves on the top...... heres some pics of the stems...... when we got the clones the stems were completely red. since the addition of epsom salt and the soil, along with an accidental double dosage of root excell, the red is going away, just as the pics will show...... so if i decide a heater in the room, will it help with the humidity? how about another fan?? im still in clone stage so i have some time before buds form but i want this humidty thing done now, ps help me cuz i have some extra cash layin around and i want this problem fixed before flower, even veg if possible, hopefully you can see the red/green candy cane effect on the stalk....

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vaporedout

good, from all your advice i seem to have gotten some good advice from my "buddy". my grow room is in a bedroom, my setup is a 245 sq foot room, with a 400cfm activair vent or exhaust fan(sucking the air room out) then i have the window boarded over but open about 2 inches with air drawn from there(0% light), i also have 2 fans blowing in to keep my room(tent) from getting sucked in from my 400cfm fan. it took some tweaking but i think i have the right amount of negative air flow in there, thanks again for all your help, i keep telling myself, " you freaked out about everyting on the outdoor stuff, and it all turned out fine..... so im telling myself this time not to sweat the small stuff", these guys are going fine so thanks again and ill keep update pics.....

vaporedout

4 days have passed since my last pic, ive only done outdoor so this is a surprise!! the growth...... so my question is now can i get rid of those leaves at the base of the stalk by the dirt? or are they still to young, (9 days old in dirt, like 2 weeks old overall). thanks

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