il_zed

I am looking around about some nutrients in order to feed my clones. I have been through the "cannabis growing bible" and I read that I will need at least 2 bottles of nutrients. One it should be with NPK more or less at same value for veg, and one with P higher than NK.

The book talks about value of NPK around 10 10 12 - 8 8 10 or 10 20 10 - 8 16 8, but what I found in my city's shop are bottles of Bio product called or Bio Canna or Plagron or Bio Bizz but all of them have very low level of NPK, like 3-1-3 or 4-1-2 both for veg and flowering (as the shop's guy told me).

Does anybody has tried something like that? I am checking now on the net and I found a Plagron Bloom

http://www.plagron.nl/Index_uk.htm

who as NPK : 2-2-4 which is something who disagree with the book. I am just get a bit confused.....if somebody wants to share its experience it will be fine

PasstheHydro

Well, it all depends on what medium you are using. Because if you are using soil then you may risk overfertilizing, but with hydro you may fertilize more.

I recommend 20-20-20 for first 5 weeks or so and then changing when you want to flower. Take a look at my post it talks about 20-20-20 and more.

I just use color burst for flowering, well never gotten to flowering but colorburst adds color to youre flowers so I guess it makes better bud

farmergiles

The ratio between the npk numbers determines suitability for the vegging or flowering ferts. All the brands you mentioned are legit- if you are using them as directed don't get too hung up on the numbers- they are tailored for cannabis.

Start at around half the manufacturers' recommended dosage, increase dosage slowly (if you want to increase it) looking out for signs of nutrient burning on leaf tips. If some burning occurs just use plain water next watering, flush with plain water in extreme cases.

Be prepared for magnesium/ sulphur deficiency- very common, easily remedied with epsom salts- around 1tbs per gallon of water.

Bear in mind the amount of nutrients already in the soil, depending on what soil you use.

Don't give them too much nitrogen during flowering- it may delay maturation and adversely affect flavour.


Don't give any ferts during the last 2 weeks or so- only plain water.

Google and bookmark some nutrient deficiency pics- then you'll know what is going on.

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il_zed

what do you mean that the brands are legit?

I can found in my place only those one, do you suggest to use one of them withount mind too much about the NPK's ratio or you think it will be better to try to get others by internet?

farmergiles

Legit= legitimate.

I was using it in a slangy way to mean trustworthy
- to elaborate all three "Canna or Plagron or Bio Bizz" are well regarded brands. There are plenty of other useful brands as well.
I notice you are looking at organic type ferts- these usually have lower npk numbers than mineral type fertilisers- so that ties in with what the guys in the shop were saying. Plagron and Bio Bizz are largely organic I think, Canna do ranges of both mineral and organic products.

Yes I do, they should all be viable if used as instructed on the label- although do take note and see how the npk might be affecting growth as you go along.
NB- usually best to use a weaker mix than recommended on the label- it's a lot easier to remedy a deficiency than overdose of ferts.

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stoneric

Which biobizz nutes are you using? Or thinking of using?

il_zed

Hi, I am still a bit confused, and I'll probably use a plagron nutes

il_zed

hi guys

I got that news on the web, and I found that product in a my city's shop.

This is a Plagron line of mono-nutrients
Plagron

they sell a single bottle for all the componets like N K P, with higher percentual of any other produtcs I could find.

what do you think about them? do you think is going to be hard for a beginner grower to get the best from those product?

have you ever used it?

where can I find a good guide to learn about them??

farmergiles

Better to get a veg nute and a flower nute IMO.

Mono nutes are probably best used as supplements.

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il_zed

what do you mean with IMO?

and how can I use as supplement those mono nutes?

farmergiles

IMO = in my opinion

About the mono nutes- it will be tricky to balance the ratios with mono nutes- easier to use veg and flower nutes in my opinion.

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Jenna_Grows

hmmm.. alfalfa, black strap molasses, a bit of this, a bit of that...