seedling isn't looking good

TheGrandPuba · 03-02-2010, 01:36 PM

So my friends seedling looks really bad for being almost 2 weeks old.

The cotyledons look ok but the little leaves above have started to twist and turn yellow/brown. I'm thinking this might have been because he was under watering at first. He is now giving a proper watering every other day. (50 ml's for a 459ml pot)

The seedling has been in the same closet as a rooting clone and I think that having the temp at 25-26 degrees combined with only watering 20mls every other day has made this baby upset. The temp is now 24-25 for what it's worth.

The only bright side to the story is that it looks like some new leaves are forming on top, but they are forming extremely slowly.

Any advice is greatly appreciated. I posted this over at grasscity and someone said it was over watering. I'm so confused

farmergiles · 03-02-2010, 03:57 PM

No idea without pics but-

The key to watering is the weight of the pot.

Plants' hydration needs change according to many factors- giving them the same amount every day isn't necessarily the best thing.

José · 03-02-2010, 03:59 PM

you should never have to water a seedling every other day, more like once every 5 days with proper drainage depending on temp and RH.

I guess it's either over-watered(suffocated) or else the wrong pH. 7.0 pH kills seedlings I've found out. It has to be 6-6.5. Seedlings need air!

TheGrandPuba · 03-02-2010, 07:40 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, I don't really know if I can get access to a pic.

I guess it is overwatering. At least it's not dead yet.

I thought you were supposed to water when the soil started to dry out slightly, not completely. Does this apply to plants in veg/flower too? My friend has had decent success with watering every other day up until this seedling.

I also remember Sureshot back in the day saying that plants liked a watering schedule and not to just be watered at random times, I could be wrong though.

José · 03-02-2010, 07:48 PM

too many variables man, all I can say is google is your friend.

what kind of soil are you using?

TheGrandPuba · 03-05-2010, 05:35 AM

Here is a pic on day 15, it's march 5th and it hasn't been watered since the 2nd. The soil is dry on top, it will probably get a drink today depending on what you guys think

farmergiles · 03-05-2010, 05:53 AM

That pot is big for a seedling. If it does get overwatered it will take a long time to dry out. Apart from keeping air from the roots this can also lead to a pH drop in the soil,

Watering every day is fine- but you only need give the plant as much as it needs.

In that size pot I'd probably only water every few days- the seedling isn't going to be using much water until it gets bigger.

José · 03-05-2010, 12:36 PM

the soil looks like it could have too many nutrients in it for a seedling IMO.

TheGrandPuba · 03-05-2010, 12:57 PM

Thanks for your info guys.

The soil is just wal mart potting soil with a bit of perlite added...

José · 03-05-2010, 01:05 PM

I'd use dirt out of the ground in your backyard before you use a random kind of potting soil, that's just me though.

Coaster13 · 04-21-2010, 06:35 PM

Mine look exactly like this except for the color. Mine are also at 15 days. I'm curious as to what the next step is. Is the plant stretched? They were started under flouro's. This is my first grow. Is it now time to move them to my 400watt H.M.'s? Can I still recover? My ph is at 7. Please help, I'd hate to lose them if I can save them. Thanks, peace.

03-02-2010, 01:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheGrandPuba amateur gynecologist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in my head Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 43 Thanked 59 Times in 38 Posts	seedling isn't looking good So my friends seedling looks really bad for being almost 2 weeks old. The cotyledons look ok but the little leaves above have started to twist and turn yellow/brown. I'm thinking this might have been because he was under watering at first. He is now giving a proper watering every other day. (50 ml's for a 459ml pot) The seedling has been in the same closet as a rooting clone and I think that having the temp at 25-26 degrees combined with only watering 20mls every other day has made this baby upset. The temp is now 24-25 for what it's worth. The only bright side to the story is that it looks like some new leaves are forming on top, but they are forming extremely slowly. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I posted this over at grasscity and someone said it was over watering. I'm so confused

03-02-2010, 03:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,807 Thanks: 2,285 Thanked 3,750 Times in 2,554 Posts	No idea without pics but- The key to watering is the weight of the pot. Plants' hydration needs change according to many factors- giving them the same amount every day isn't necessarily the best thing. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

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TheGrandPuba amateur gynecologist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in my head Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 43 Thanked 59 Times in 38 Posts	Here is a pic on day 15, it's march 5th and it hasn't been watered since the 2nd. The soil is dry on top, it will probably get a drink today depending on what you guys think Attached Images

03-05-2010, 05:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,807 Thanks: 2,285 Thanked 3,750 Times in 2,554 Posts	That pot is big for a seedling. If it does get overwatered it will take a long time to dry out. Apart from keeping air from the roots this can also lead to a pH drop in the soil, Watering every day is fine- but you only need give the plant as much as it needs. In that size pot I'd probably only water every few days- the seedling isn't going to be using much water until it gets bigger. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

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03-02-2010, 03:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,368 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	you should never have to water a seedling every other day, more like once every 5 days with proper drainage depending on temp and RH. I guess it's either over-watered(suffocated) or else the wrong pH. 7.0 pH kills seedlings I've found out. It has to be 6-6.5. Seedlings need air!

03-02-2010, 07:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
TheGrandPuba amateur gynecologist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in my head Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 43 Thanked 59 Times in 38 Posts	Thanks for the replies guys, I don't really know if I can get access to a pic. I guess it is overwatering. At least it's not dead yet. I thought you were supposed to water when the soil started to dry out slightly, not completely. Does this apply to plants in veg/flower too? My friend has had decent success with watering every other day up until this seedling. I also remember Sureshot back in the day saying that plants liked a watering schedule and not to just be watered at random times, I could be wrong though.

03-02-2010, 07:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,368 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	too many variables man, all I can say is google is your friend. what kind of soil are you using?

03-05-2010, 12:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,368 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	the soil looks like it could have too many nutrients in it for a seedling IMO.

03-05-2010, 12:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheGrandPuba amateur gynecologist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in my head Posts: 2,588 Thanks: 43 Thanked 59 Times in 38 Posts	Thanks for your info guys. The soil is just wal mart potting soil with a bit of perlite added...

03-05-2010, 01:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,368 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	I'd use dirt out of the ground in your backyard before you use a random kind of potting soil, that's just me though.

04-21-2010, 06:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Coaster13 YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 97 Thanks: 84 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Mine look exactly like this except for the color. Mine are also at 15 days. I'm curious as to what the next step is. Is the plant stretched? They were started under flouro's. This is my first grow. Is it now time to move them to my 400watt H.M.'s? Can I still recover? My ph is at 7. Please help, I'd hate to lose them if I can save them. Thanks, peace.

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