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Hello again everyone I am making another thread to ask everyone about their grow room and begin a log.

I would like to know several things:

What lighting system do you use? (give specifics)

Do you have an air filtration system? If so what kind. If not why?

How do you have your room setup?

Do you go from seed to bud in the same room or do you have staging areas- one for sprouting, one for veg, one for flowering?

If you have staging areas how are they constructed? Do you divide up one room or use several? If you use one room that is divided what did you use to close off part of the room?

What do you use as a light "reflectant?" (like foil or something white)

Tell me anything else i need to know about indoor (indo) growing.

How many plants can grow under a 1000w HPS light?

Where do you guys buy your lights?




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Dandaweedman

We prefer the perpetual harvest. That means that a veg cab is a must. Different strains started at different times to keep a cycle going.

I wouldn't be too worried about using 2x1000k, it's not really that much power in use.
You can use carbon filters or vent through the roof, you may get smell a few houses down the block in a suburban setting using method #2.
I've always used ceiling paint for our cabs/rooms. Seems to work well enough.
Frame a room within a room and use some kind of cabinet for veg/moms/dads, or build cabinets yourself.

we have a 600 watt HPS, should have gone for the 1000K tho

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farmergiles

Having a veg space and a flowering space makes sense to me.
If you have space this set up is very flexible, you can grow different strains (with different maturation times) at the same time. The veg space will be good for mothers and clones too. Or some folks have another smaller room for this purpose.
Make sure the flowering space is light tight, you don't want light to get in and upset your flowering ladies when they're sleeping .


If you are thinking about 2 x 1000w, check out the price of 3 x 600w (factoring in bulb replacement costs). If it works out the 600w are the same price or cheaper I would use them- 600w bulbs are supposed to be a little more efficient.



Or- get two 600w lights and a light mover. Light movers simulate the movement of the sun in the sky and allow the plants to use the light much more efficiently.
So you'd have a similar set up price but would use less electricity and produce less heat while getting a similar harvest.


Matt white paint is fine, you can use mylar film which is a little more reflective. Don't use gloss paint or tinfoil, they tend to create hotspots.


You need an extractor fan to get rid of heat and humidity, might as well add a carbon filter for odour removal.

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Thank you both! I will report back tonight or tomorrow when things have been organized and red ribbons cut.

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Suspicious in what way? Electricity used? It won't be bad if you're using a shitload to start with. Personally I have a 400W going 12 hours a day and a 250W going 16 hours along with 8 fans and my bill almost doubled because I wasn't using much to start with. So it depends.

vaporedout

yeah if its electicity used, ive got a 1000w, tons of fans, and a room ac,
last month (hottest yet) bill was 317........... needless to say i might go down some wattage. i saw an adjust-a-wing with a 600w, damn it was nice lighting, so thats our next step.

HTAM

Under a 1k HPS, 12 plants became pretty crowded for me the last 2-3 weeks for me.

I used squirrel fans for intake and exhaust. You'll need to figure out your cubic feet and how often you want to exchange. I ran timers for both of them, 5 mins on every 15 mins 24/7. Timers like that will save you 16 hours a day in power consumption.

I also kept an Airanizer in the room to assist in odor control, and it was quite effective. Before I set up, I painted about 2/3 of the house including the grow room. That was the first test for the airanizer. I came back about 24 hours later, and there was virtually no paint smell at all. It actually smelled a lot like it does after a thunderstorm passes over.

Aranizer Air Purifier: The solution to your indoor air quality problems.

It's 6 years old ran for well over a 1000 hours daily, and it still does the same great job.

Something that is often overlooked until after the fact is prudence in wiring and electrical connections. Spend the money for a GOOD surge control. It's bad enough should you damage the connections to your equipment, but you certainly don't want to lose the whole house if your not around. I came home one afternoon, and smelled something burning, and noticed the light was off. Time stopped for a few moments until I discovered the power strip had surged, ignited enough to burn and char the case, and then extinguished. Thankfully.

The best wisdom I can offer you is 'Do it RIGHT, the FIRST time' and do your research about your equipment. Every room is different.

Dan the Mutha Fuckin' Man made a good suggestion about the room within the room. Before you go and spend any money on equipment, make sure your room is prepped and ready. Clean, and no source of light pollution for flower. If you are living alone, great. If you are not, and you are on the other side of the law with no card, you need to put a lock on the door that only you have a key to. A charge of 'Conspiracy to ....' is not out of the realm of possibility for your roommates if LEO pinches YOU because the room could be considered a common area if access isn't limited to just one person.

No guns in the house, EVER, unless you are legit and have them properly registered. In Colorado, it's a 5 year minimum if you're for cultivation with a firearm. Search your State law.

I used this bulb...
SH Hydroponics, Inc. > 1000 Watt HPS Hortilux Bulb
It produced great results, and I replaced annually. The plants stretched a little more (compared with a friend who ran the same strain, nutes and medium, but used separate MH and HPS) but I was very aggressive pinching and tying down.

I would recommend you go digital with the ballast, if you were considering something different. It runs cooler and is much more efficient. Again, research you potential equipment and make sure each piece is compatible with everything else it is connected to.

There are many different ways to deliver nutes, and even MORE products to chose from, but in the beginning, PH and Parts Per Million should be on your mind all the time. Get a Truncheon EC Nutrient Meter, and you can easily dial in your needs.

Growers need to be vigilant about about the most overlooked rule, which is DON'T FUCKING TELL ANYONE, because you are just creating better odds of getting busted or ripped off. You have NO control over what other people say, when they are not in your presence. It's because he broke that rule that my neighbor got busted. By a 'concerned neighbor'. All of his kids' friends knew about his grow, he had no locking door....and even after I sat his ass down with a copy of the 4th amendment (which you should be VERY familiar with) and explained it to him, he still fucked the initial encounter with police up, and that led to the bust. You know why Police ask questions? Same reason everyone else does. They don't know the answer, and they are mining information to use as leverage against you.

There's heaps of info here for you to glean knowledge from, if you look for it. Good luck.

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good things are happening got the light n some sprouts! more later

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yo stoneric i was wonderin how many plants do you have going? whats the min and max for your lighting setup?

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Okay huge update here:

The room and location are good! We have let the seedlings sit under small CFLs for about a week and a half as we saved money, shopped around, and have a new-found, solid understanding about electricity, how much it costs, how much I'll be using and how to measure all of that good kilowatt goodness!

I am going to buy a ~140,000 lumen 1000w HPS HID bulb or 2 smaller bulbs with an equivalent lumen output (800w and a 200w- the 200w for a vegger). If a hood is not found cheap one will be made from some Mylar and plywood or cardboard.

If I haven't mentioned before this the medium is organic soil and i know all about the NPK first the N then the P and K the entire life-cycle of the plant . I have this down and will feed them either different stuff their entire lives or one continuous feeding fert their entire lives with maybe a bloom booster.

I think we will be using drywall to do the room separation (for the room in a room dan's sweet transformer action). Inside that room something will have to go down over the carpet and a table brought in so we can have full grown plants down on the floor and veggies or sprouts on the table at various heights on various shit I suppose..? Lol..

I will use the nifty (lumen & wattage) / (inches from bulb) chart so awesomely provided by my good Farmer Giles to determine a range, mark that on a piece of string and adjust the plants as they grow.

This presents my first design obstacle, I need to find a method or system for raising and lowering plants as needed on an individual plant basis because if I get the single 1000w HPS light I will have no veg cab for about 2 months. The ~200$ - 250$ for the light is all I have at the moment until about 2 months from now.

Which brings me to the main point:

I'm getting serious about growing but my genetics are lackluster bagseed.. It is hard to find and afford seeds from reliable sources I do not have access to clones.

I have 14 sprouts and I expect to maybe get 1 good mother from them (bagseed. :/) I am such a yahooka lover so it dosent seem fair! I am always on these boards wishing, drooling, researching and trying to incorporate the best of what I see here into my reality.

But if god were to suddenly exist, and proceed to to come down from heaven and grant me a 3 wishes they would be the following strains. Oh ya, also to win the lotto but be able to keep all the tax! fukx yea.

• #1 La Confidential aka Nirvana Chrystal > [[WW x NL] xNL] (orWhite Russian or something similar would be a close 2nd for this category) - NEEDED for pain relief and insomnia. Would like to have something narco style..
  
  or
• Lemon Haze (or Trainwreck or something similar would be a close 2nd for this category) - wanted the lemmHaze because I keep hearing it's awesome.
  
  or
• Apollo 11 (preferably Sativa ) - wanted for as an energetic sativa

That's the ideal though, honestly I'd make anything work

Well, I can wish cant I??

PM me.

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^ a guy would hafta take a drive to Canada....Hell, why not to the Nations Capital where seeds are purchased in stores near Parliament Hill.

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Shit that's Not a bad idea. I am somewhere in the pacific north west... extra north Any bank preferences or recommendations?

*also a side note people - pix are coming soon*

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Pharm Girl

then yer gonna hop on that bus and make a new plan??

I'm Atlantic side....but there are peeps here who know the west coast~

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......A message for ALL from the Deer Tribe...~

It is a great journey —
but you must do the walking
and have the willingness to change
and make the leap into
the next level of human evolution.

Become an inquisitive free thinking
individual that takes
responsibility for your life
and the spiritual accountability to live life to the fullest.

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Yeah, Canada has always been my last resort because I am a student and very poor. Honestly Canada isn't far off for me... but I cannot travel for a few months, I have the need for a quality strain quicker, like asap

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Dandaweedman

PMed

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farmergiles

Don't use any kind of wood or cardboard to make a hood for an hid light, there is great danger of fire. Metal only, no mylar either.

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i figured id shop something up to satiate you guys. lol!

the pots im using are exactly like the ones the red arrow points to.
the light im using is EXACTLY the same as the one shown. it is not to scale however.
nothing in the swimming pool is to scale but it shows the basic setup.

note that they are all still (bag)seedlings. (they were under two 4 foot floros for like a week and a half before now but the bulbs were old and so they have been stuck as sprouts until now.)

edit: pic deleted cuz it sucked

whats next:

My next step is going to be to find a prime set of mothers and a garden of clones. in general, i'll be going hydro and a perpetual harvest setup with a 1000w MH for the veg room and a 1000w HPS in the flowering room.

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could the first mod that reads this message change my thread title to "first indo log advice needed!" ?

thanks in advance

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Done. isn't a smiley in a title but I left it in anyway.

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oh. yea put the there. its totally my style !

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