The germination thread

Dandaweedman · 10-01-2010, 01:52 PM

I closed it for continuity.

Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

yo. · 10-01-2010, 02:06 PM

regular paper towel and zip lock works fine

farmergiles · 10-01-2010, 02:22 PM

Straight into soil with a tad of rhizotonic or whatever it's called (root stimulant) and under flouro's 24/7 for me (edit- not right under the lights but in the cabinet). Get 90%+ success with viable seeds. In fact I'm really pissed to lose a seed.

SmokeaJoint · 10-01-2010, 02:42 PM

Every time I germ, I drop 10 or so seeds into deionized, dechlorinated water. I put the container in a nice dark place (usually a cupboard) and check it every day. As each seed begins to put out a rootlet, I plant them in my soil mix, about 1/4 inch in. I put em under 3 24 watt CFLs to provide nice, strong, cool lighting, and up it from there. I usually have a 70-80% success rate with good seeds. Mines usually bagseed though, so I think thats a pretty good average.

sirsmokalot989 · 10-04-2010, 05:02 PM

I use a little sponge that I clean out and stick the seeds in a little slice I mad in the sponge then stick the sponge in my propagator
Sometimes use paper towels in lue of the sponge
Great post!!!

stoneric · 10-05-2010, 01:26 PM

1 seed in a glass of distilled water, cover with a black sock stretched over glass, put brown paper bag over sock, put in warm dark place(pussy?) for 48 hours without any interruption and you'll have a tail.

farmergiles · 10-05-2010, 01:46 PM

Germing in soil seems to take longer- I only get worried after a week- but the germ rate seems fine. Although it takes longer, the next stage (the first pot up) is already accomplished.

I decided soil was the way to go after reading Koshiva's FAQ entry on germing.

Captain Cannabis · 10-05-2010, 02:27 PM

i haven't grown weed yet but i have always done as farmergiles when growing anything. some types of seeds take longer than others but in general i would say my averages are high.

sometimes seeds are bunk. there's no technique to magically make them grow. if it doesnt work this way it probably won't in any other

stoneric · 10-05-2010, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmergiles

Germing in soil seems to take longer- I only get worried after a week- but the germ rate seems fine. Although it takes longer, the next stage (the first pot up) is already accomplished.

I decided soil was the way to go after reading Koshiva's FAQ entry on germing.

Do you saturate your soil beforehand?

farmergiles · 10-05-2010, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoneric

Do you saturate your soil beforehand?

Yeah I do water beforehand, maybe not totally saturated.

If you water for the first time after placing the seed then it is easy to displace the seed so it is too deep or something.

Sugar420 · 10-05-2010, 11:50 PM

a few times i have soaked seeds in room temp water for a day or two before putting them into soil, just to soften them up a little to get em going. it seemed to work pretty well

profit · 10-05-2010, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmergiles

Straight into soil with a tad of rhizotonic or whatever it's called (root stimulant) and under flouro's 24/7 for me (edit- not right under the lights but in the cabinet). Get 90%+ success with viable seeds. In fact I'm really pissed to lose a seed.

yo farmer i have been wondering about root stimulants.

i have a bottle of rooting hormone for cloning with an active ingredient of indole-3-butyric acid .1%.

what is the active ingredient in Rhizotonic? Can i use my rooting hormone powder to stimulate root development with seedlings or is this a huge no-no?

i want a root stimulator for sure.

thanks man!

profit · 10-06-2010, 12:10 AM

lmao

should not be right next to

sorry farmer meant to give you a smile!

farmergiles · 10-06-2010, 12:23 AM

from canna's website

Quote:

RHIZOTONIC adds ... microbiological substances.... Various trace elements and vitamins such as B1&B2..... hormone Oligosaccharide...

It's not the same as rooting hormones for cloning. I don't know if rooting hormones would help or not, it seems logical they might but I haven't tried it.

Rhizotonic seems to help a little with getting the microbes going in the soil, there are other products which do the same thing equally well I'm sure. I got by fine before I started using it, I wouldn't put it on a list of essentials.

Also stoneric was asking about watering the soil beforehand- this helps give the microbes a chance to get going.

Now what's the name of those friendly bacteria? Mycorrhizae (I think that's the right spelling).

farmergiles · 10-06-2010, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allPROFIT

lmao

should not be right next to

sorry farmer meant to give you a smile!

Lol Maybe we should have the regular smiley first on the left and the bird after

.

profit · 10-06-2010, 12:26 AM

Thanks for the quickdraw man!

I am so fucking excited. I'm germinating 11 seeds (apollo11 x afghan).

I love indicas

profit · 10-06-2010, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmergiles

Lol Maybe we should have the regular smiley first on the left and the bird after

.

hahaha agreed.

Dandaweedman · 10-06-2010, 05:04 PM

FG, are you sure you aren't sureshot?

He liked the Rhizotonic for germing as well. Hmmmm

Well, we finally realize there is more than one way to skin a cat... or germ a seed?
So everyone that has a different way take some pictures, write it out and add it to the thread and cover all our bases?
It's all about the information.

profit · 10-06-2010, 05:56 PM

Okay here's some information of what NOT to do (yes what I foolishly just did):
i soaked my seeds in warm 75 deg (F) water until all but 2 sank. they started to take on a blackish, 'bruised' look as soon as i started to soak them.

then i had 2 paper towels with beans between them on a saucer wrapped in plastic wrap in a light tight fire safe.

and like an idiot i accidentally fell asleep with the heating pad on high under my saucer! Fuck.

it must have been 90 deg in there for like 6 hours until i woke up and went to look inside the safe for root tips. to my unpleasant surprise there were no roots. they looked okay, just okay, though blacker than they were after the soaking.

what do you think? am i in trouble?

they are now in the safe without the heating blanket and i'm just going to give them time instead of temperature now. One of them has popped but instead of a root poking out it feels like plastic. On the side of the seed it is just a 100% transparent bulge of about 1 millimeter.

Never seen this before but i'm pretty sure i'm fucked.

profit · 10-06-2010, 05:57 PM

ill put up pics of before, after, and the transparent bulge im seeing on 1 seed in a little while.

10-01-2010, 01:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
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farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,807 Thanks: 2,285 Thanked 3,750 Times in 2,554 Posts	Straight into soil with a tad of rhizotonic or whatever it's called (root stimulant) and under flouro's 24/7 for me (edit- not right under the lights but in the cabinet). Get 90%+ success with viable seeds. In fact I'm really pissed to lose a seed. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice Last edited by farmergiles; 10-02-2010 at 12:27 AM.

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farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,807 Thanks: 2,285 Thanked 3,750 Times in 2,554 Posts	Germing in soil seems to take longer- I only get worried after a week- but the germ rate seems fine. Although it takes longer, the next stage (the first pot up) is already accomplished. I decided soil was the way to go after reading Koshiva's FAQ entry on germing. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

10-05-2010, 02:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	i haven't grown weed yet but i have always done as farmergiles when growing anything. some types of seeds take longer than others but in general i would say my averages are high. sometimes seeds are bunk. there's no technique to magically make them grow. if it doesnt work this way it probably won't in any other __________________ fuck the monkeys

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sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	I use a little sponge that I clean out and stick the seeds in a little slice I mad in the sponge then stick the sponge in my propagator Sometimes use paper towels in lue of the sponge Great post!!!

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stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,646 Thanks: 704 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	1 seed in a glass of distilled water, cover with a black sock stretched over glass, put brown paper bag over sock, put in warm dark place(pussy?) for 48 hours without any interruption and you'll have a tail.

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Sugar420 Freedom Bird Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,138 Thanks: 41 Thanked 183 Times in 733 Posts	a few times i have soaked seeds in room temp water for a day or two before putting them into soil, just to soften them up a little to get em going. it seemed to work pretty well

10-06-2010, 12:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
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10-06-2010, 12:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
profit restore the republic Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 818 Thanked 357 Times in 237 Posts	Thanks for the quickdraw man! I am so fucking excited. I'm germinating 11 seeds (apollo11 x afghan). I love indicas __________________ Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. follow https://twitter.com/#!/curtiswm - sub http://www.youtube.com/user/66sicksfishstix

10-06-2010, 05:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	FG, are you sure you aren't sureshot? He liked the Rhizotonic for germing as well. Hmmmm Well, we finally realize there is more than one way to skin a cat... or germ a seed? So everyone that has a different way take some pictures, write it out and add it to the thread and cover all our bases? It's all about the information. __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

10-06-2010, 05:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
profit restore the republic Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 818 Thanked 357 Times in 237 Posts	Okay here's some information of what NOT to do (yes what I foolishly just did): i soaked my seeds in warm 75 deg (F) water until all but 2 sank. they started to take on a blackish, 'bruised' look as soon as i started to soak them. then i had 2 paper towels with beans between them on a saucer wrapped in plastic wrap in a light tight fire safe. and like an idiot i accidentally fell asleep with the heating pad on high under my saucer! Fuck. it must have been 90 deg in there for like 6 hours until i woke up and went to look inside the safe for root tips. to my unpleasant surprise there were no roots. they looked okay, just okay, though blacker than they were after the soaking. what do you think? am i in trouble? they are now in the safe without the heating blanket and i'm just going to give them time instead of temperature now. One of them has popped but instead of a root poking out it feels like plastic. On the side of the seed it is just a 100% transparent bulge of about 1 millimeter. Never seen this before but i'm pretty sure i'm fucked. __________________ Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. follow https://twitter.com/#!/curtiswm - sub http://www.youtube.com/user/66sicksfishstix

10-06-2010, 05:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
profit restore the republic Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 818 Thanked 357 Times in 237 Posts	ill put up pics of before, after, and the transparent bulge im seeing on 1 seed in a little while. __________________ Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. follow https://twitter.com/#!/curtiswm - sub http://www.youtube.com/user/66sicksfishstix

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