First attempt at making honey oil

sirsmokalot989 · 10-18-2010, 08:43 PM

Ok so I wanted to make a hash to save me money from spending a couple hundred a week at the club and I had bubble bags and all but I wanted something that would melt for sure and still get me loaded
So I used butane to extract the thc from my plants and it workded really well... I went to the hardware store and bought a 10" long by 2" diameter PVC tube with a cap on one end and a door screen cut to size and folded over a few timesand held on with duct tape
I cut a tiny hole in the PVC cap for the butane nozzle fit right in... Then I found some cheap butane and ground up an 1/8 of Casey jones 1/8 of Jack herer 1/8 trainwreck 1/8 of purple kush and 1/8 of blue mystic.... Stuck them in the PVC pipe and capped it and sprayed 3 cans of 7.5 oz of butane
I ended up with about 3 grams of super melt that's worth 50$ a gram at the club and there is no impurities at all
I used my scope once I scraped most of it off and scooped it into my jar and I saw a ton of just resin heads jammed together
This was awesome
Very happy to have tried this
I'm going to try a zip of just trainwreck as it's one of my favorites

sirsmokalot989 · 10-18-2010, 08:54 PM

It came out a dark yellow- amberish color by the way
And melts into straight liquid when heated

Xil · 10-18-2010, 09:55 PM

awesome man, you got pics?

~1~ · 10-18-2010, 10:38 PM

5x refined butane, the better the butane, the better the budder.

Once you run the butane through the weed, leave the plate over the warm water and get stirrin'. It can take a while but eventually it will begin to 'dry out' and come to a waxy consistency on your stir stick. Keep the water on a very low simmer, just enough heat to keep the oil in a semi liquid state until it starts to come together, then stir it a little more.

There is a process called decarboxylation in which the CBD's supposedly turn into THC-Delta9 which is what makes the budder between 90 and 98% pure THC. I have heard yay, I have heard nay. I have also smoked the same batch of oil before and after it is whipped into budder and I can attest to the fact that post whipped is faaaar more stoney than the BHO straight out the plant and that's what matters. It is also much easier to handle.

Captain Cannabis · 10-18-2010, 11:06 PM

cheap butane is filled with crazy impurities. if you are doing something like this you are insane to not be consulting with MSDS databases for each brand of solvent you use. it is probably worth investing in the most expensive butane you can find, as it is generally priced accordingly.

how can you say it has "no impurities at all"? what kind of assumptions are you basing that on? i am not trying to scare you, but it is a pretty serious health concern to be inhaling some of the impurities found in butane.

farmergiles · 10-19-2010, 12:25 PM

A friend of mine, a very experienced toker, once went temporarily blind from smoking a smallish amount of oil made with crappy butane.

sirsmokalot989 · 10-19-2010, 01:35 PM

Ya a buddy of mine got sick for 3 days from not clearing the butane fully before smoking it... So the way I see it capt cannabis is the butane gas if it's real pure butane and you let it evaporate fully there shouldn't be many impurities
I've used expensive butane years ago and did not notice a difference but I will try again with some better butane to see if I notice any difference
Also captain cannabis butane is the gas that keeps your lighter lit so if you hit a bong period your inhaling butane gases
So if there should be anything in my butane I'm not completely worried about it... The only way that I've found with zero impurities is to heat a glass rod up till it's red hot then use that as your flame which gives a superiorly clean hit
But thanx u guys for the help
I haven't taken a picture of the oil yet but will and I'll put it up in a bit

sirsmokalot989 · 10-19-2010, 01:36 PM

I also set my bowl in a pot of boiled water for 6 hrs or so... Refilling it with hot water about every half hour

farmergiles · 10-19-2010, 01:39 PM

Thing is- the butane evaporates easily leaving the impurities behind.

I'm sure plenty of people make perfectly fine oil with whatever butane they can get hold of but there is a certain risk.

vaporedout · 10-19-2010, 02:45 PM

like the great ricky bobby said..... with all due respect.....

i am a late in life smoker, more because of the medical than anything. i dont consider weed a drug, but heres about where you start crossing the line, (imo) why take the chance that there could be impurities?? or even get sick.... its like seeing bud rot on your plant and then still drying it and smoking it.... not good..... pham girl has a bomb recipe for hash with water and ice...... nature..... but again im kinda a prude when it comes to weed. i dont even like the taste a butane lighter gives when you spark the bong, and i will rarely smoke hydro just because i can taste chemicals ...... just be careful..... and if you do go blind, blame it on masturbation.

farmergiles · 10-19-2010, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaporedout

and if you do go blind, blame it on masturbation.

~1~ · 10-19-2010, 02:57 PM

With patience and good starting blocks, you can make BHO with no impurities, your local smoke shop will have refined butane for their very picky cigar smokers (for once I'm fine with tobacco being legal, lol) who don't want anything wrecking the flavor of a $30 cigar. Take the time to find stainless or glass apparatus although PVC will work and no one has said shit about ill effects, go for it if that's what you have, follow through and dry the shit as thoroughly as you can by whipping it up. The more you work it, the more surface area you will expose and the more butane will evaporate out.

Vape, buddy, this is nothing like a drug, it's a concentrated joint without the paper and plant matter when you get right down to it. The butane evaporates into the air (my only real issue with the gig) so it's actually a much purer end product than straight bud, it's also an awesome way to recycle leaves and shake and shit that otherwise would go to waste.

vaporedout · 10-19-2010, 04:59 PM

yup im aware of what it is im just saying why mess with mother nature?? is the butane way stronger than the bag way?? like farmergiles said

Quote:

Thing is- the butane evaporates easily leaving the impurities behind.

I'm sure plenty of people make perfectly fine oil with whatever butane they can get hold of but there is a certain risk.

so my question is..... WHY take the risk? so you can get more high?? so then if your getting more high, is that the chemicals talkin?? try takin a week off of smoking and then smoke some hash.
(bubble or bag not sure what to call it but the ice/water/bucket,blender pham/ and bag method)

so, i checked around the net.... anyone ever figure out the % of THC is calculated in hash?? maybe that study will have the impurities test as well.....

Captain Cannabis · 10-19-2010, 06:00 PM

if you want to know exactly how much impurities you are ingesting, spray some butane on a clean piece of glass and let it evaporate. if it doesn't leave a residue you'll probably be okay

sirsmokalot989 · 10-24-2010, 01:22 PM

I'm okay so far
Haven't bought any hash from the club in a week... I'm still able to see I'm healthy and I'm stoned as vie ever been so thanx for all the advice but I think I did something right obviously because I'm still here
After letting it sit out for a few days it turns darker and almost like an earwax
I'm very happy and will probably do this to all of my buds
I got about a lb of indoor trainwreck
Mmmm

sirsmokalot989 · 10-24-2010, 01:24 PM

And they actually do test the percentages at the local dispensary and they also say they don't let anything by with any impurities though I know that's not true cause I had to return an oil cause of mold
But this oil is way stronger than any bubble hash I've ever had

sirsmokalot989 · 10-24-2010, 01:28 PM

I use this hash medically to and in no way do I just smoke recreationally if I were to take the 3 mg of Xanax and 4 norcos a day they give me I'd be an addict and stuck in bed all day
Instead I take a hit of hash and I'm anxiety and pain free for a couple hours

~1~ · 10-24-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirsmokalot989

After letting it sit out for a few days it turns darker and almost like an earwax

Mmmm

These are the stages of the BHO, first is the oil which is sticky and messy and gets all over everything and is a bitch to clean, then you have the 'earwax' stage which is more of the butane evaporating out and leaving behind the gooey stuff you want to keep, this is also much easier to handle as it will stick more to itself than anything else. This is where most folks stop during the whipping process, it's good but not done, keep the simmer up and keep whipping, it will begin to take on a meringue consistency and lighten in color and start to feel 'dryer'.

Check out my buddy Hashbean420's videos for more insight.

You'll have to sign in since YouTube is run by lawyers and prudes.

Not really my buddy, but look around his place, sure wish I was...lol

sirsmokalot989 · 10-24-2010, 05:46 PM

Right on that's the info I was looking for thank you^^^^^

vaporedout · 10-24-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirsmokalot989

And they actually do test the percentages at the local dispensary......

HOW??

Quote:

I use this hash medically to and in no way do I just smoke recreationally if I were to take the 3 mg of Xanax and 4 norcos a day they give me I'd be an addict and stuck in bed all day
Instead I take a hit of hash and I'm anxiety and pain free for a couple hours

congrats on gettin off that xanax shit....its bad..... i was just lookin out for your health.... just dont start huffing

10-18-2010, 08:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	First attempt at making honey oil Ok so I wanted to make a hash to save me money from spending a couple hundred a week at the club and I had bubble bags and all but I wanted something that would melt for sure and still get me loaded So I used butane to extract the thc from my plants and it workded really well... I went to the hardware store and bought a 10" long by 2" diameter PVC tube with a cap on one end and a door screen cut to size and folded over a few timesand held on with duct tape I cut a tiny hole in the PVC cap for the butane nozzle fit right in... Then I found some cheap butane and ground up an 1/8 of Casey jones 1/8 of Jack herer 1/8 trainwreck 1/8 of purple kush and 1/8 of blue mystic.... Stuck them in the PVC pipe and capped it and sprayed 3 cans of 7.5 oz of butane I ended up with about 3 grams of super melt that's worth 50$ a gram at the club and there is no impurities at all I used my scope once I scraped most of it off and scooped it into my jar and I saw a ton of just resin heads jammed together This was awesome Very happy to have tried this I'm going to try a zip of just trainwreck as it's one of my favorites

10-18-2010, 09:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Xil OD'ing on sobriety Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mizzura Posts: 3,334 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 1,158 Times in 717 Posts	awesome man, you got pics? __________________ "we'll show these fascists what a couple of hillbillies can do"

10-18-2010, 10:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
~1~ Successful Failure Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: where 'they' can't see. Posts: 10,925 Thanks: 466 Thanked 1,581 Times in 925 Posts	5x refined butane, the better the butane, the better the budder. Once you run the butane through the weed, leave the plate over the warm water and get stirrin'. It can take a while but eventually it will begin to 'dry out' and come to a waxy consistency on your stir stick. Keep the water on a very low simmer, just enough heat to keep the oil in a semi liquid state until it starts to come together, then stir it a little more. There is a process called decarboxylation in which the CBD's supposedly turn into THC-Delta9 which is what makes the budder between 90 and 98% pure THC. I have heard yay, I have heard nay. I have also smoked the same batch of oil before and after it is whipped into budder and I can attest to the fact that post whipped is faaaar more stoney than the BHO straight out the plant and that's what matters. It is also much easier to handle. __________________ "And those who are successful, be always on your guard. Success walks hand in hand with failure, along Hollywood Boulevard" Ray Davies --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Click Here Asshole

10-18-2010, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	cheap butane is filled with crazy impurities. if you are doing something like this you are insane to not be consulting with MSDS databases for each brand of solvent you use. it is probably worth investing in the most expensive butane you can find, as it is generally priced accordingly. how can you say it has "no impurities at all"? what kind of assumptions are you basing that on? i am not trying to scare you, but it is a pretty serious health concern to be inhaling some of the impurities found in butane. __________________ fuck the monkeys

10-19-2010, 12:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,807 Thanks: 2,285 Thanked 3,750 Times in 2,554 Posts	A friend of mine, a very experienced toker, once went temporarily blind from smoking a smallish amount of oil made with crappy butane. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

10-18-2010, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	It came out a dark yellow- amberish color by the way And melts into straight liquid when heated

10-19-2010, 01:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	Ya a buddy of mine got sick for 3 days from not clearing the butane fully before smoking it... So the way I see it capt cannabis is the butane gas if it's real pure butane and you let it evaporate fully there shouldn't be many impurities I've used expensive butane years ago and did not notice a difference but I will try again with some better butane to see if I notice any difference Also captain cannabis butane is the gas that keeps your lighter lit so if you hit a bong period your inhaling butane gases So if there should be anything in my butane I'm not completely worried about it... The only way that I've found with zero impurities is to heat a glass rod up till it's red hot then use that as your flame which gives a superiorly clean hit But thanx u guys for the help I haven't taken a picture of the oil yet but will and I'll put it up in a bit

10-19-2010, 01:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	I also set my bowl in a pot of boiled water for 6 hrs or so... Refilling it with hot water about every half hour

10-19-2010, 01:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,807 Thanks: 2,285 Thanked 3,750 Times in 2,554 Posts	Thing is- the butane evaporates easily leaving the impurities behind. I'm sure plenty of people make perfectly fine oil with whatever butane they can get hold of but there is a certain risk. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

10-19-2010, 02:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
vaporedout " U have 2 be some1" Join Date: May 2009 Location: In a Free Nation Posts: 278 Thanks: 56 Thanked 117 Times in 83 Posts	like the great ricky bobby said..... with all due respect..... i am a late in life smoker, more because of the medical than anything. i dont consider weed a drug, but heres about where you start crossing the line, (imo) why take the chance that there could be impurities?? or even get sick.... its like seeing bud rot on your plant and then still drying it and smoking it.... not good..... pham girl has a bomb recipe for hash with water and ice...... nature..... but again im kinda a prude when it comes to weed. i dont even like the taste a butane lighter gives when you spark the bong, and i will rarely smoke hydro just because i can taste chemicals ...... just be careful..... and if you do go blind, blame it on masturbation.

10-19-2010, 02:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
~1~ Successful Failure Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: where 'they' can't see. Posts: 10,925 Thanks: 466 Thanked 1,581 Times in 925 Posts	With patience and good starting blocks, you can make BHO with no impurities, your local smoke shop will have refined butane for their very picky cigar smokers (for once I'm fine with tobacco being legal, lol) who don't want anything wrecking the flavor of a $30 cigar. Take the time to find stainless or glass apparatus although PVC will work and no one has said shit about ill effects, go for it if that's what you have, follow through and dry the shit as thoroughly as you can by whipping it up. The more you work it, the more surface area you will expose and the more butane will evaporate out. Vape, buddy, this is nothing like a drug, it's a concentrated joint without the paper and plant matter when you get right down to it. The butane evaporates into the air (my only real issue with the gig) so it's actually a much purer end product than straight bud, it's also an awesome way to recycle leaves and shake and shit that otherwise would go to waste. __________________ "And those who are successful, be always on your guard. Success walks hand in hand with failure, along Hollywood Boulevard" Ray Davies --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Click Here Asshole

10-19-2010, 06:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,922 Thanks: 2,705 Thanked 3,174 Times in 1,812 Posts	if you want to know exactly how much impurities you are ingesting, spray some butane on a clean piece of glass and let it evaporate. if it doesn't leave a residue you'll probably be okay __________________ fuck the monkeys

10-24-2010, 01:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	I'm okay so far Haven't bought any hash from the club in a week... I'm still able to see I'm healthy and I'm stoned as vie ever been so thanx for all the advice but I think I did something right obviously because I'm still here After letting it sit out for a few days it turns darker and almost like an earwax I'm very happy and will probably do this to all of my buds I got about a lb of indoor trainwreck Mmmm

10-24-2010, 01:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	And they actually do test the percentages at the local dispensary and they also say they don't let anything by with any impurities though I know that's not true cause I had to return an oil cause of mold But this oil is way stronger than any bubble hash I've ever had

10-24-2010, 01:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	I use this hash medically to and in no way do I just smoke recreationally if I were to take the 3 mg of Xanax and 4 norcos a day they give me I'd be an addict and stuck in bed all day Instead I take a hit of hash and I'm anxiety and pain free for a couple hours

10-24-2010, 05:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
sirsmokalot989 YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 313 Thanks: 272 Thanked 108 Times in 80 Posts	Right on that's the info I was looking for thank you^^^^^

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