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Old 11-14-2010, 04:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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too tall!!

hya all-well ive got 6 random fem plants 1 mnth in to veg under 600w hps-doin great-even got a luvly sativa in wiv em-neway im runnin outa height room-my plants are 22 inches tall wiv bout 8 sets of leaves wiv internodes gaps of 2 inches(very little stretching)got bout 2 feet of vertical space left-my lights wont go any higher and and worried bout frying em so was wondering wot this great community recommends?do i put on to flower now(even tho a bit early)or do sum surgery and top em or sumat?i dunno really-they are really bushy and vigorous so flowerin early cud work but would i lose a lot of yield?plus im new to hps growing and wouldnt know how to go bout topping em so im stuck again-
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thanks i never thought of that cud b a bit tricky as theyre all in 1 BIG box!im going to veg them for another month i think thatll be enuf?
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LST is good shit, but keep in mind the plants can double in size durring flowering. Growing a sativa indoors is a doozy. They can get in excess of 7' tall, easy. Topping them will only slow the growth, and kick out growth on the lower branches.
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thanks i never thought of that cud b a bit tricky as theyre all in 1 BIG box!im going to veg them for another month i think thatll be enuf?
If you veg them any more they're going to be massive. You'll probably have to train them even if you start flowering now.
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If you veg them any more they're going to be massive. You'll probably have to train them even if you start flowering now.
what would u do farmergiles?shud i tie em down lst style or top/fim them?its my 1st attempt usin hps and under estimated the size theyd grow in a month- shud i put em to flower immediately perhaps?or do they need more veg time?.
im panickin abit now!
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wont i lose a lot of bud tho?
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If you flower early as opposed to in a month, yes you wont get as much yield. But you gotta consider the fact that they still grow in height while flowering is happening and you're running out of room. From what I've read so far, its either flower now or risk burning the hell outta the plants as they hit the roof of the grow space. My suggestion: Take clones now, and start them. In the meantime, flower the existing plants. With the clones, begin LST as soon as possible and compensate for height in the beginning so you wont have this issue again. You could likely pull off a perpetual harvest if you get the timing right.
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im using miracle grow npk 20-20-20
will that do?my plants seem to like it
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for veg, you want a N dominant fert. For flowering, you want something with a bit more P and K.

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what would u do farmergiles?shud i tie em down lst style or top/fim them?
Yes tie them down, topping them will hardly slow them down much. Any pics of said plants?
Training might get a little tricky as you've started late but better start now rather than when they hit the lights .
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its my 1st attempt usin hps and under estimated the size theyd grow in a month- shud i put em to flower immediately perhaps?
Yes SAJ is right, Put them under flower now, they're only going to veg bigger otherwise.

Google "cannabis preflowering" images.
Preflowering usually shows about a month from seed- this indicates the plant is ready to flower. Yours are a month from seed? They should be ready then.
Anyway, don't even worry about that too much, just flower them. If they grow into the lights it is really annoying.

HPS sure makes them grow tall quick eh?

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will that do?my plants seem to like it
That's probably ok for veg. If you can then get something with more P for flowering.
Also- miraclegro is pretty harsh stuff, both for the plants and the final taste of the bud.
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decided not to use miracle grow for the flowering because of the taste issue-leaning towards worm castings tea?or maybe a good flowering specific liquid fert-not sure whats the best 1 her in the uk?
ive attached a pic of my plants
i think theres 7 in there im not sure
theyre almost 2 foot tall so im putting them on 12/12 from 6pm 2nite
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Lol, looking good.

Get some bio bizz bloom nutes or similar, canna, ghe, whatever, wean them off that mg.

Flower them now otherwise they'll be growing out the top of your house!
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Jeez, that a nice green canopy for sure. They're all in separate pots, yeah?
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no theyre in 2 big recycling boxes-the large plant pots are expensive!
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About how big? Cuz you don't want the roots to get all tangled together n slow the growth.
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I don't think you can start LST now. Tying them down to get away from the lites won't have the effects of what LST was meant to accomplish. I think you're going to have some major problems if you only have 2 feet of space left between your lite and the top of your canopy. I'd thin out my room as cruel as that might sound so you'll have enough room to tie them down without them being on top of each other.
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I'd tie down as much as I could and probably snip some as well. It seems a bit crowded.

They look nice and green and healthy. Well done.
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