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Old 06-27-2011, 12:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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very slow growing. please help

hi guys..

here I am to ask you something about this problem:

I recently started a new grow with two good quality seeds of Northern Light.

I put them on wet paper in May 29 and the firts root came out on Jun 1...after that I put them on two pots with Plagron groung mixed with coconut, just 1cm below the ground level. Only two days later the seeds came out from the ground and start to grow......very very slowly I think :-(
I gave them 24h/24h of light since the first day with the lamp I put on the attachment wich is a white cold light lamp bought in a grow shop right for the vegetative grow

After 27 days the young ladyes, as you can see, are only 10 centimeter tall..a bit more than 3 inches, with few little leaves

I think there is something who went wrong on those 27 days but I can't imagine what it could be.
They always stay on the same place, no movement, no cold air corrent, always gave them water taken the day before with ph 7....the only thing different about what I read around is that the temperature in a bit higher that 24°C.

Please let me know what could be happened or maybe if they are on their right time to grow.

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Old 06-27-2011, 12:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sorry guys. the system doesn't allow me to upload pictures... I hope you can understant what do I mean as well as reading my text
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3 inches in a months time is pretty slow...

you said you are doing a 24h/24h light cycle. Are you turning the lights off for 24 hours? Just to be sure, the lights should be on all the time for now.

Another "just to be sure" check.... Is the bulb you are using a fluorescent? One of those CFLs? If not then it should be, and if it is then make sure the light is very close to the plant. Fluorescent light degrades quickly over distance.

You should just tell us everything about the light you are using as it is probably something to do with that.

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il_ z means lights on all the time I think...

Is there a colour temperature rating on the light? Is it a cfl il_z?
Ideally it should be about 6500K for veg which is a kind of cool blue.
However I'd hope they would be taller than 10cm under any kind of flouro by now. Where are the seeds from?

Pity the pics are not uploading- bear with us we should get things sorted with that presently.
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il_ z means lights on all the time I think...

Is there a colour temperature rating on the light? Is it a cfl il_z?
Ideally it should be about 6500K for veg which is a kind of cool blue.
However I'd hope they would be taller than 10cm under any kind of flouro by now. Where are the seeds from?

Pity the pics are not uploading- bear with us we should get things sorted with that presently.
hi guys, after yours first answer, it looks like everything goes well.

Obviusly the light is on 24h for day, without any dark time. The seeds are very good quality seeds bought online here
Cannabis Seeds, Cannabis & Marihuana « Sensi Seed Bank

and that is the light : eco-light reflector

the only thing is that the light was like 60cm fra from the plants, not I put it closer, less that 20cm from the top of the plants
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il_ z means lights on all the time I think...

Is there a colour temperature rating on the light? Is it a cfl il_z?
Ideally it should be about 6500K for veg which is a kind of cool blue.
However I'd hope they would be taller than 10cm under any kind of flouro by now. Where are the seeds from?

Pity the pics are not uploading- bear with us we should get things sorted with that presently.
hi guys, after yours first answer, it looks like everything goes well

Obviusly the light is on 24h for day, without any dark time. The seeds are very good quality seeds bought online here
Cannabis Seeds, Cannabis & Marihuana « Sensi Seed Bank

and that is the light : eco-light reflector

the only thing is that the light was like 60cm fra from the plants, not I put it closer, less that 20cm from the top of the plants
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Yeah if that's the blue light perfect.

Move the light closer, I'd aim for about 5cm maybe or less even- is that a 200w light?
20cm is way too far away with cfls.

Anyway, if you scorch them move the light away a little.

Fingers crossed on the Sensi NL, I heard a few rumours about some of their seeds recently, IDK anything for sure-I hope they come good for you- let us know.

NL is not exactly a mega vigorous strain anyway.
I remember when it first appeared in about 1990, everyone was like WTF is this stuff!
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ooo those lights are great. I have two of the bulbs. For a young plant they offer plenty enough light even at a bit of a distance. hmm

What wattage is it?
If the light was too far away, you'd think the plant would be all stretchy and taller then 3 inches...

How thick is the main stem?

What are you you growing in? is the dirt very dense or something?

Ok then, your lights are all fine then...soooo im not really too sure whats up or if there is even a problem. Can't really be sure without a pic.
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my lamp is 220-240 volt and 50-60 hz and now I put it closer than 10 cm to the top.

the main stem is still less then 1mmq of section.

do you thinnk it might be for the lamp so far??

I will update ythe next days how does it work closer
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NL is supposed to be nearly 100% indica- it's not very stretchy fb.

Hold your hand up close to the bulb il_z- it's not mega hot right?

Even with seedlings you can bring flouro's right up close.
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NL is supposed to be nearly 100% indica- it's not very stretchy fb.

Hold your hand up close to the bulb il_z- it's not mega hot right?

Even with seedlings you can bring flouro's right up close.
well....I like NL's taste more that any other.

I held my hand close to the bulb and it isn't hot at all.

do you think that period when the light was too far, it might have damaged the plant for the future, if now it will finally start to grow?
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do you think that period when the light was too far, it might have damaged the plant for the future, if now it will finally start to grow?
Very unlikely.


I hope you find time to post some pics when we get the forums sorted lol, I'd be interested to see how Sensi's NL do.
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I hope you find time to post some pics when we get the forums sorted lol, I'd be interested to see how Sensi's NL do.
Hi farmergiles,

as I told you I am here updating with my plants.
After 3 weeks of light very close to the plants, the old are still at the same point, I think they have gone.

In the while I put down another seed who germinate 10 days ago, and it has been put very close to the lamp since the biginning.
Now, as you can finally see on the attachment, it looks like very healty, you can see the differences between the one in the small white pot who is 10 days old and the other one who are 45 days old...the plants we talked about in this post.

let me ask you one think. This kind of lamp, is it the best for all the veg phase? or just for the beginning? I own a 400W hps for growing, which one do yoo think it is the best?

ps. teh white part of the picture is the lamp....as you can see it close to the plant.

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^ if those were mine...! first thing i'd do is transplant and make sure to very carefully not disturb anything!!! the main objective is to sink them lower...the stalks are wayyyy to much exposed!

is someone over-watering?? does the h20 sit 24 hrs before using?
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^ if those were mine...! first thing i'd do is transplant and make sure to very carefully not disturb anything!!! the main objective is to sink them lower...the stalks are wayyyy to much exposed!

is someone over-watering?? does the h20 sit 24 hrs before using?
what do you mean with "the stalks are wayyyy to much exposed!" are you talking about the white pot or the other?

I think I'm gonna put the white pot in a bigger today........being carefull to the young roots,,,,do yiou agree?
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both....i like to keep the soil built up to almost the first set of leaves..

why doncha transplant then take another pic just so we can help get her as close to the light as possible.

those leaves are curling under...they are telling you they are not happy
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both....i like to keep the soil built up to almost the first set of leaves..

why doncha transplant then take another pic just so we can help get her as close to the light as possible.

those leaves are curling under...they are telling you they are not happy
well

I did the traspland and everything went fine. Now it is in her definitive pot.
The soil is a mix between ground and coconut and I put some arount the stalk.

The light now is not far then 5 cm (less than 3'') do you think it might be even closer?

I will post some pict next days.

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ground??...like direct outside stuff??..was dirt cheep i bet!

we'll wait for the pic...3" should be good...!
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