The Rev

Anyone try growing sativa strains under lights? I've generally grown indica in the past, from feminised seed, and have had great results. However, with sativas, I know there are some issues with stretch, etc. If I ran a short veg cycle, and did some creative pruning and scrog during early flower, do you think it would be do-able?

Thanks.



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farmergiles

How much room do you have?

Yes it's do- able.

I might recommend skipping the veg cycle altogether.

If you can get your hands on clones this will speed flowering as opposed to growing from seed.

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The Rev

2 square feet of screen, give or take. I gotta break out the box, tho, and see if the lighting set up still works, etc.



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From Scott Blakey's Mango Haze blurb-

2x2 is about enough room for one haze type plant at a push unless you choose your strain carefully- there are some sativa dominant plants which grow small.

I think Danda grew some Reeferman's Phnong Phen (or wtf it's spelled) recently, took 130+ days to flower but only grew about 2' high. Unfortunately Reeferman's biz seems to have gone to shit, so I can't recommend buying a pack.

Good sativas are not that common nowadays.

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Roach

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grew some of these seeds (south africa seed co..) , evn topped they were 4 foot before flower cycle.

I gave them to a friend, as they were too big and taking space from some kona koma I was also growing.

But sometime I'll probably try the swazi again outdoors, at a place I have.

SkycladInSummer

We grow sativas indoor outdoor and yet I would like to see/read what kind of results you get from it and what kind of comments you get here.

Nice to meet you BTW

herblover

You can grow sativa in a small space, but don't expect a good yield because of it's height and the inability of the light to penetrate the canopy of the plant.

Pharm Girl

please explain this.

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herblover

Pharm Girl, To clarify what I was stating about growing sativa indoors in a small space. Because sativa generally grows tall, (5 or 6 feet) it is difficult to get enough light through the top of the plant to produce good buds at the lower portions. This effectively reduces the yield or amount of buds the plant. This has been my experience. I've tried tilting and rotating the plant to give more light to the lower areas, but the results were not that good. I still grow it because I enjoy it over indica. It's worth it.

farmergiles

I've seen people do incredible things indoors with a full blown monster sativa, a 400W light and 20 weeks...

Takes a few skills and more space is always a bonus but a few tricks such as

-Starting from cuts taken from a plant which has already shown preflowering- this might even mean growing the seed plant, taking cuts, cutting down the mother and starting again with the cuts.

-Germinating under a flowering light schedule 12 on/ 12 hrs off (note this might not work out too well with old seeds).

-Limiting pot size and potting up only when absolutely necessary. Full on sats may tend to want to grow to use all the resources available to them. Of course then the trick is not to have them root bound.

-Training, supercropping, more training, more training.

-Just cutting them back. You'll probably have to know your plant pretty well to get this right...

will all help to keep even the most unruly under check.

Full blown sats don't really like very high light levels and they are never going to give big dense buds like indicas.

Yeah there's a bit more to it than say growing some 'vanilla' indica dominant hybrid. It might take more than one run to get it right but I suspect the Rev might pull it off.

But anyway there are also some shorty sativas (like the phnong phen I mentioned above) and there are plenty of hybrids that have been especially bred to give a sativa ish high in a more cabinet friendly form.

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herblover

Farmergiles, being creative when growing sativia is learned by experience. For me, doing more plant training is necessary. I prefer growing from seed, but would like to try taking cuttings from a mother plant, but room and privacy kills that idea. I tend to disagree with you on the light levels. Light is everything to vegetation and flowering. I use 400 watt MH 24/7 and HPS 12/12. I produce so much vegetation, getting light to the lower part of a 5 or 6 foot plant is a challenge, especially when you have to raise the light. Yes, sativa buds are not big and dense like indicas, and it takes a lifetime to flower, but I sure do love the high. I will check out your suggestion on the phnom phen strain. Thanks!

stoneric

I think a 400W penetrates around 3 feet. Lite size dictates penetration. And that should dictate what one chooses to grow.

SmokeaJoint

To get light to the lower branches, you may wanna look into supplementary CFL lighting. With those you can set up a couple of bulbs near the plant's base and they'll not be putting out enough heat to burn anything.

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mothernature

For me, I would try to go with some shorter strains, but I wouldn't let that stop me from growing what I wanted to grow.

It would be all about the training. I would bend the new growth. String and a brick always worked well for me. Rather a hassle, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

I saw something a while back where someone made a frame out of small pvc pipe and placed the plants under it. When the shoots reached above the level where the pipe criss crossed (top), they just wove the shoots through. It was a permanent solution to the height problem. Did that make sense?

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^ Like SCroG?

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mothernature

Similar, but I was thinking larger holes than the chicken wire and instead of keeping them bushy, let the plant grow and just keep tucking the ends in. Like a vine.

My thoughts originally came from thinking about how one could grow large amounts on very few plants, indoors.

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Roach

trimming root ball a opposed to potting up...?



wow I added a bunch about painting walls...and stuff, hit save, and yahooka went down for about twenty minutes...strange.

let's try it again before I retype all that shit.

farmergiles

Not in flower. Stress and hermies.

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