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Old 11-05-2011, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I've decide to do my first closet grow. I am wanting to go with areoponics system (Boost your garden’s output using ultrasonic mist - Hack a Day) with LEDs and some autoflowering strain. Im going with quickest and simple. Any tips, suggestions, ideas, ext.

Ill prob start Jan ish. but ill prob post pics once i get it set up.
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Old 11-05-2011, 12:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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LEDs are still a bit experimental, the penetration of light is poor.

Personally I'd try fluoros or HID lights first time.
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Old 11-05-2011, 12:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Those mister don't put out much it will so you will be limited in grow space no real benefits. I would just do a hydro system.but if you got you mind made up more power to ya
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wasn't this same aero link removed recently from another members sig ?

could be wrong.
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ya i got the link from another page, I am only planning to do 3 at a time. So would the mister still not be enough.
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Using aeroponics to grow herb, I'd be concerned with humidity. Since the idea is to have 100% humidity @ the roots, you'd want substantially lower humidity @ the tops come flowering time. So proper ventilation would be a must.

Growing tomatos is somewhat different than growing cannabis in that respect.

If the ultrasonic unit is sufficient to keep the tub filled with thick fog it should work.

The only aero setup I've ever seen was at Epcot Center in Disney world about a thousand years ago. And it was vegetables growing in an aero mist, not fog.

And it was like a sauna inside the display.
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I don't think this is any kind of spam.
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nah, I didn't think so either hence no reporting.

But I don't think many members have chosen fogging (aeroponics) for growing cannabis at this time.

Even hydro can be fatal to plants if a pump goes out.

And I do so love dirt under my nails...so earthy.
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Nah, im not trying to promote it or anything if thats what you mean. Just curious. Just looking for a 3 plant set up for 600 with enough yeild for a 1/4 week.
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Or does someone have a simple ebb and flow system for 3 plants, would i be able to stagger them or would i have to have them on the same cycle cuz of nutrients?
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Hempy buckets are cheap, easy and are essentially hydro, though you don't have to automate the watering if you don't want- in that thread they talk about hand watering. Watering by hand is fine for only 3 plants as long as you don't need to be away for too long.
Hempy buckets are a great intro to hydro as the nutes are the same but you don't have to spend much to get going. And the yields can be good.

All the other hydro methods have their good and bad points and need varying amounts of equipment. Aeroponics is great for yield but you need a fair amount of kit.

BTW, 4 plants would be easier to position well under a light.
Though you should be able to pull a 1/4oz every week with 3. Are you going to maintain a small mother and veg cab to supply the flowering space and run perpetual or just run whole cycles in the one space?
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I was gonna just do whole cycles but with autofowering.
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Oh yeah sorry you said. That should work fine.
But it is difficult to take cuttings so you keep needing new seed.

Have you seen those dimmable electronic ballasts? You can turn them down to 400 or 250w, which is great if you are growing plants from small in one space- you turn them down initially and keep them close when the plants are small so as not to waste power. Also, turning them down reduces heat- which can be handy.
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Led's are a big waste unless your gonna build your own, wich still gonna cost ya. The fixtures out there just dont put out that much and there so expensive.The only reason to buy leds is cause you got every thing you need in the garden already, and just want to have something new and cool. Lets face it there are much better places to put your money to befit your garden then Led's. Matter of fact they shouldnt be on the list. If your looking for the new wave of Technology in lighting. Phillips makes a plasma light bulb is the size of a dime and is much better then Led, and MH,HPS lights.As for the mister it will work great for only 3 plant grow. But like i've said before Dont think you can just throw a mister in a conainer with nutes and call it a aero system. You need to make a separate res. where the mister is housed and the fog over flows into the chamber. That would be true aeroponics this idea is a cheap way out of buying a $200 true garden fogger. Its nothing new honestly like I said before there are no extra bounus. Opposed to a hydro set up. And for your first grow its best to keep it simple expecially for 3 plants. And uless there fem. even then nothing is a 100% for shure. So start more then 3 I do double some times. For 3 plants since your hearts set on dro i would do a soiless mix set up its more forgiven. Or a simple DWC.
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My heart isnt set on anything, I just have limited space and hide factor is a biggy. If you have a simpilar better silution, ill take them.
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If you stagger your plants on the same system, what do you do about flushing? And how do you flush nutrients on a hydrosystem just run straight water?
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If you stagger your plants on the same system, what do you do about flushing?
That's something you'll need to bear in mind when speccing your system. The hempy buckets I suggested above can be hand watered so you can tailor the nutes to each individual plant.
Even if you did automate the watering, there would be nothing to stop you disconnecting one plant and watering it by hand to flush at the end..
Most other systems are less flexible. If using a system with one reservoir for multiple plants then in most instances (aero, nft, ebb and flow, top drip etc) you can't vary the nutes between plants.
If you were running DWC or something where each plant has it's own reservoir then obviously you can vary nutes between plants.

But there's nothing to stop you running 3 or 4 plants at once, harvesting them all at once and keeping the bud in jars to keep you going until the next harvest.

A lot of people doing hydro prefer to use clones. This way all the plants, being copies of each other, tend to mature at the same rate. So it is not necessary to tailor nutes for each individual plant if you started flowering them at the same time.
Depending on the genetics, seed plants will tend to develop and mature at different speeds.

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And how do you flush nutrients on a hydrosystem just run straight water?
Exactly. Some people use flushing products (many nute manufacturers sell something like this) but water works pretty good imo.
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