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Old 01-03-2012, 07:14 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I've been growing for 8 years now and have come to the realization that I'm not that fucking smart. I've decided to leave the soil mixing to the experts that do it for a living. So I've been a loyal Foxfarm ocean forrest user for a while now and it is user friendly. Give it a look your next grow.
Thanks stoneric, I will give that a shot!
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not so much that the soil becomes too heavy.
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:47 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Okay guys and gals here we go. I started another WW, I am going to get this perfect even if it kills me! I wanted to do this the 'ol natural way. So, I got a 5x5 inch white pot, and I filled it up with FoxFarm Light Warrior seed starter. I completely soaked it with my R.O. water.

Why I used the 5x5" pot is because I didn't want to mess with her if I had to move her into a bigger pot. This should last me sometime and she should be strong enough to take a beating by me if I screw something up.

Then I planted the seed smack dab in the middle. The depth that the seed is in the soil is the size of the seed but doubled. So if the seed was this big - she is in soil that is -- that deep, got it? good!

I planted her about 4 days ago and last night when I went to visit her she was out. I had a tear in my eye, I was a dad again :tear-eye:

But during those 4 days that went by she was under a 50w H.O. Floro lights and I had been keeping the top of the soil moist. The lights are on 24/7 and going to be for the rest of her life (as long as I can help it).

So, forum, when do I water her again? Do I keep the top moist or just leave it alone for a few days?

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So, forum, when do I water her again? Do I keep the top moist or just leave it alone for a few days?

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Keep the top of the soil moist, not saturated, for the first day or two so the seedling doesn't dry out.

After a day or two the taproot should grow down well below the surface.

Then water in a cycle where you let the pot dry out a little inbetween times of watering thoroughly.
Judge when to water by the weight of the pot- if it is heavy you don't need to water.

Because the pot is relatively big for the seedling it may take a fair few days for the pot to dry out sufficiently to require watering again- don't think you have to water every day.

No feeding should be necessary at first.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:28 AM   #67 (permalink)
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No feeding should be necessary at first.
Thanks FG, that's what I was going to ask next. Reading the "How To" on the Light Warrior is says the following under "Seeds"

Plant seeds in Light Warrior according to manufacturer's recommendations. Water thoroughly and place near a light source. For best results, maintain an ambient temperature of 68-75 degrees Fahrenheit. Begin feeding with Big Bloom Liquid Plant Food within 5 days. Once seeds are germinated, begin feeding with Grow Big Liquid Plant Food. When sprouts are fully rooted, transplant from Light Warrior to Ocean Forest or Happy Frog Potting Soil.

So they germinated, should I start feeding with Grow Big Liquid Plant Food or just stick to water? Please advise.

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:46 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I saturate my soil before planting the seed and don't water again for a week. I keep the top moist with a sray bottle. I start my seed right in Ocean Forrest so I don't feed anything for at least 2 weeks. I just use the grow big nutes for vegging and start at about 1/2 the recommended dosage.
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Hope you have better luck with this next ww, should be ok now that you are using what your using. Good luck
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Sup everyone,

Just thought I'd pop in and give you guys-n-gals an update. She is looking good so far, hopefully she will stay that way this time around. She is 1 week and 2 days old. The only thing she is getting is RO water. Yesterday I gave her enough water so it ran out through the bottom. Now she's not going to see any more water until the pot because light. Any comments or suggestions are welcomed.

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nice macro on that camera

off to a very good start.
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off to a very good start.
Thanks, it's a cell phone camera too
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Sup Every1,

So, this girl is now 2 weeks old, I fed her water yesterday and while I was giving her water I saw some black spots on her leaves, so far all of the WW's experienced the same symptom before just stop growing or dying. Please advise.

I have two pics below one is the original the second is a the one I circled in red to show you the black spots.

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Is your water pH out of whack, or with too much TDS (too high EC?)

They shouldn't experience deficiency at that age in that size of pot- they are locking out, it is not because the nutrients are not there but because the conditions for the roots are not ideal..

I'm not sure why tbh, but with a good watering cycle allowing the pot to lighten somewhat between waterings, water pH around 6.2 ish (between 5.8 and 6.8 should be fine) they should do very well for a couple of weeks with no nutrients whatsoever in light soil.

Here are some seedlings from last year

They are a nice verdant colour, are in a light soil mix and had only ever been fed pH adjusted water- no nutes at all at this stage in their life.
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Is your water pH out of whack, or with too much TDS (too high EC?)

They shouldn't experience deficiency at that age in that size of pot- they are locking out, it is not because the nutrients are not there but because the conditions for the roots are not ideal..

I'm not sure why tbh, but with a good watering cycle allowing the pot to lighten somewhat between waterings, water pH around 6.2 ish (between 5.8 and 6.8 should be fine) they should do very well for a couple of weeks with no nutrients whatsoever in light soil.

Here are some seedlings from last year

They are a nice verdant colour, are in a light soil mix and had only ever been fed pH adjusted water- no nutes at all at this stage in their life.
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I have been doing everything perfectly to my knowledge, from the RO Filter I get this following readings right from the tap.

pH = 5.8
TDS = 003
Chlorine = None

The only thing I have been doing is bringing up the pH up just a little so my pH reads between 5.9 - 6.3 what else could it be? Maybe the Light Warrior Mix? I don't know? I have lost 2 months already, I didn't say I "wasted 2 months" because there is something here we can learn from

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So, below are two pics of the WW that I posted up above. The first pic was taken on 1/30/11. At this point I was like "ef" it this is like the 4th WW that isn't making it, so I just started giving it a ton of water and I turned off the fan that was blowing and something strange started happening. It started getting better.

So now a few days go by I see it getting better but the growth was slow, I had some moon dust nutes from my last grow so I threw 1/4 teaspoon in a gallon of water and gave it to the WW.

A few days go by and holy crap, the thing is looking much nicer. I don't want to jinx anything so let's see what happens. Now look at the second pic you can see the difference.

Maybe Roach was correct and it was was nutrient deficiency?

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Okay, here she is, much better, however there might me some deficiencies if you take a careful look. Please advise.

By the way she is now, 1 month, 1 week, and 1 day old today.

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Sup Forum!

Okay, so I whipped out the old Hydroponics system that I did my first grow in. However I modified the system with some improvements.

I ordered more seeds from Nirvana and got them towards the end of January.

Plants #1 & #2 were born on Feb 1st, they were just given R.O. water and nothing else. One week later on Feb 8th #3 & #4 were born, they were taking in the same water obviously.

The ONLY DIFFERENCE between all the plants is that plant number #2 was germinated using the paper towel method and then transplanted to her current home and plants #1,#3,#4 were germinated where they currently live. (Maybe that's why #2 looks weak?)

On Feb 10th I noticed that plant #1's first set of leaves started to die, and growth had completely stopped and plant #2 was not growing but didn't have the problem with the leaves dying. If you look at the pic below and look at plant #1's look at the bottom leaves (first set) that is what was happening.

At this point I started to worry and I had a gut feeling I need to feed her. So I took 1/8 teaspoon of moon dust and threw it in. And holy shit the next day she started getting better (keep in mind plants #3 & #4 are only 3 days old ) so I thought maybe if I just give the old and new girls just a little taste (food) they might do better, and they sure did! so I was like screw it, 2 days later, I threw in another 1/4 teaspoon of the stuff and HOLY SHIT they started to thrive.

Plants #1 & #2 = 2 weeks and 1 day old.
Plants #3 & #4 = 1 week and 1 day old. (And I think they are kicking ass)

I just finished changing out her water 30 minutes ago and added 1/4 teaspoon of moon dust.

Now look at the pic below and please, comment/suggest anything that will help me on this journey.

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