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Old 12-23-2011, 09:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cracked seed? will it still germinate?

I have currently 2 seeds. One is looking really good. Nice fat and dark. The other on has a crack in the side and you can see the insides of the seed. It didn't happen from germinating it. It is was damaged somehow. Is it even worth trying to germinate it or should I just toss it? I have had both of them out on a wet paper towel for 3 days now, and I still have nothing.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It is probably doomed if you can see the seed embryo inside.

But I'd just leave it with the other one, you never know it might be viable.

Are they in a cosy warm place?

Better to have the paper towel moist rather than wet.
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Old 12-23-2011, 02:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't know why more people don't use the glass of water way of germinating. It's so much easier. I get near 100% germination and always get a sprout within 48 hours.
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I don't know why more people don't use the glass of water way of germinating. It's so much easier. I get near 100% germination and always get a sprout within 48 hours.
I've been on several different sites, and I have never seen nor heard of this method. I would gladly try it out if you would explain what you mean.

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I've been on several different sites, and I have never seen nor heard of this method. I would gladly try it out if you would explain what you mean.

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I use an 8 ounce glass with distilled water. I drop the seed in the water and stretch a black sock over the the glass. I put a brown paper lunch bag over that and put it in a dark cupboard. I leave it ALONE for 48 hours and almost without fail, I have a tail. I use expensive fem seeds and grow 1 plant at a time so I only germinate 1 seed at a time.
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I don't know why people don't germ in soil. That's what the seeds are made for. If you are growing in soil, why not cut out the middle man
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Oh, maybe because not all seeds germinate? So if you're like stoneric or myself and you only need a seed or 2 at a time it makes sense.
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Oh, maybe because not all seeds germinate? So if you're like stoneric or myself and you only need a seed or 2 at a time it makes sense.
Not really. If it doesn't germ it doesn't germ. Either way you will have to try another one.
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The paper towel method has never failed me. This is what I do, and I did this method when I germinated my first seed. As a matter of fact I threw in some more unknown beans last night (attached pic).

1. Take a paper towel and spray it down with water so it's nice and wet (NOT drenching).

2. Throw in the beans, fold paper towel so now both sides of the beans are wet.

3. Throw in zip lock bag. (You may have to fold the paper towel some more so it can fit in the zip lock bag)

Now you can do two things.

1. Get yourself a seedling heating mat throw the zip lock bag with your beans on the heating mat in a dark place.

2. Throw your zip lock bag in a dark closet (I have only done this method in the summer) maybe in the winter you may want to throw the zip lock bag on top of a plate and then place that plate on top of a receiver or something.

I have not used the receiver method but people say it works.

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Not really. If it doesn't germ it doesn't germ. Either way you will have to try another one.
While I personally prefer to germ straight into soil, it is not always the best plan.

Recently I planted a bunch of seeds which were on the limits of viability, after about 2 weeks only one out of ten had germed.

So I had to tentatively dig 9 of them back up again and free them from their outer and inner seed casings. I managed to get another 5 to germinate successfully in the end I think.
This should only be attempted if the seed is definitely not going to germ by itself as it is very easy to damage the seed embryo like this.

If I'd been using paper towels or a glass of water or whatever I wouldn't have had to guess what was happening, I'd have been able to see.
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If I'd been using paper towels or a glass of water or whatever I wouldn't have had to guess what was happening, I'd have been able to see.
Exactly!

This is the best part about it, because when you can't see what's going on, you then start thinking about all the things you should have done differently cause you can't see anything happening and even though only 12 or 24 hours went by it feels like forever.

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I use the paper towel method and it makes sense, if you put in soil you dont know whats going on as you can't see and if they don't kick in you have to waste time digging them out again. i put mine in between paper towel on a plate and a plate on top, then pop it in a draw on top of a not to hot, Hot water bottle, within 2 days they had all come through
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That's ridiculous. There is no god damn middle man. Seeds are made to do what man decides to do with them. If man decides that germinating seeds in water is more prudent than germinating seeds in soil then that is what the seeds are made for. The seeds don't make the decisions here.
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thank you all for your input, i will take everyone's way into consideration.
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i would just like to say, excellent spacing on the seeds in the bag. near perfect symmetry oh baby
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Ok, well last night after work, i checked them both. the one without the crack had broken through it's shell. So i put that one into a peat moss/soil mixture. the cracked one has nothing yet. but then a miracle happened. i stepped on my screwdriver and almost fell. while looking at the ground i found another seed! it is big and healthy looking so I'm going to give that one a try now.

I'm thinking about just giving up on the cracked one. it's been about 5 almost 6 days now.
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Cannabis seeds aren't actually seeds in the technical sense. They are the fruit of the plant. Its called an achene. You can break the outer coat without harming the seed. Can you tell how many layers the crack goes through?
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Give me a second. i'll look and maybe post a pic.
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ok. so i looked at it. it only looks like the first layer of it is broken. what do you guys think?
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