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Old 12-04-2014, 03:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Getting better at this

Never grown a plant before. Ran into tons of problems. How am I doing?








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Old 12-04-2014, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A few obvious things right off the top. Plants have yellow edges on leaves, which is a sign of lack of micro nutrients. Your soil looks terrible and may be causing nutrient lock.
Your babies don't need that strong of a light. It's a waste of power. Twin floro's til they are 8 inches high is adequate. All in all they look healthy but there is room for improvement. Plants look like they are ready to turn back and flower. Are you running your lights on a reduced schedule of 12 hours or less with complete darkness in between?
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Oh man that's the most helpful chart I've ever seen re: nutes
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The soil was terribly mixed and that was my bad. I've gotten 3 hours of sleep in 3 days for the 2nd time this month trying to gorrect my soil problems. They are starting to look a lot better. I switched the light to HPS and will drop the hours tonight. I saved that chart. I wish I would have had it three weeks ago.
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I seen this advice before but I can vouch for it's effectiveness.
Fishtank water.!!
It has tons of dissolved nutrients and can also flush out locked up salts in your soil. I put that shit on everything
Give it a few days to fix your nutrient problems before you turn them back. A little selective pruning of 10 percent of the fan leaves would help with your light penetration to the lower branches.
1000w lights push useful Lumen energy about 3 feet, then it tapers off sharply. Your lower branches may get limited light due to their distance and thickness of foliage.
Any pet store has fishtanks and will give water away to help "Kickstart" the bio system of someone setting up a tank.
Try it on one plant over a few days and notice the difference.
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That's a huge undertaking for someone that had never grown a plant before. Maybe you should have started with a smaller operation but I'm impressed. Fuck, I started with painted cardboard walls(brilliant I know)and a cheap Wal-Mart flouro and I failed!

note: I don't do Wal-Mart anymore.
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I seen this advice before but I can vouch for it's effectiveness.
Fishtank water.!!
It has tons of dissolved nutrients and can also flush out locked up salts in your soil. I put that shit on everything
Give it a few days to fix your nutrient problems before you turn them back. A little selective pruning of 10 percent of the fan leaves would help with your light penetration to the lower branches.
1000w lights push useful Lumen energy about 3 feet, then it tapers off sharply. Your lower branches may get limited light due to their distance and thickness of foliage.
Any pet store has fishtanks and will give water away to help "Kickstart" the bio system of someone setting up a tank.
Try it on one plant over a few days and notice the difference.
Good Luck
My dad has a big ass turtle tank with three turtles in it not more than 50' from my grow room. That would help keep the tank clean too.
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That's a huge undertaking for someone that had never grown a plant before. Maybe you should have started with a smaller operation but I'm impressed. Fuck, I started with painted cardboard walls(brilliant I know)and a cheap Wal-Mart flouro and I failed!

note: I don't do Wal-Mart anymore.
Thank to a lot. Seriously. I actually started out with 2 2-foot fluorescent grow lights that I got from wal-mart for $10 each. I got excited and planted a bunch of seeds. 20 of them took and they quickly outgrew those 2-foot lights. Since then I have done so much for these plants. I can't say that I haven't had any help, and these plants have changed my life completely, but to explain the whole story would take quite a long time. The bottom line is I love these plants to death and will do anything to make sure they complete their cycle as happily and healthily as I possibly can. Thanks again for the love and support, all of you, it is greatly appreciated.
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Floro's because of their cool white light should and can be only 2-3 inches above the plant top. If they are further away the light energy(Lumens) is not available and the plant will stretch to reach the light source. This causes the stems to become thin and spindly and a stick loosely tied to them for support is sometimes needed. Your babies are stretching to the moon...lower the light.
a fan on with a slight breeze helps the stems develop naturally and they will grow thicker and stronger as they would in nature in the breezy countryside.
Slight breeze!!, not an Arctic Beaufort Force 5 hurricane wind.
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Floro's because of their cool white light should and can be only 2-3 inches above the plant top. If they are further away the light energy(Lumens) is not available and the plant will stretch to reach the light source. This causes the stems to become thin and spindly and a stick loosely tied to them for support is sometimes needed. Your babies are stretching to the moon...lower the light.
a fan on with a slight breeze helps the stems develop naturally and they will grow thicker and stronger as they would in nature in the breezy countryside.
Slight breeze!!, not an Arctic Beaufort Force 5 hurricane wind.
I dont really see how lowering the light would help with them stretching seeing as how they are all at least 2 feet tall now.
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If you lower the light, then they won't stretch more than they should. If flouro's, as slunt says, a few inchs from the tops of the seedlings is best. Should you start seedlings in the future, and you keep the flouro's that close, they simply won't get so tall and weak as they appear to be now.

Similar to your younger seedlings in the other thread, the larger plants with yellowing leaves, are also probably suffering from a lack of adequate moisture. Since the plants are larger, and they'd have collonised that medium with roots, what water you do give them is probably taken up by the plants quite quickly...which means...they dry out in a relatively quick time too, hence the yellowing and damaged leaves. Not that they look too bad...but you can improve them with much more water.

You can test out this hypothesis yourself by looking at the plants which are the worst affected. Do they seem to be drier than the rest, or dry out more quickly? If yes, there's the main problem. Solution: water them more often, or just give them more.
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I dont really see how lowering the light would help with them stretching seeing as how they are all at least 2 feet tall now.
If those plants are already grown then the advice should be used for future grows. It is sound advice.
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If you have been watering with the turtle tank water for a few days now you should observe an increase in new growth and no new yellowing.
My best guess would be your plants are beginning to suffer from a nitrogen deficiency and lack of adequate water. Your turtle tank water will fix both of these issues at the same time.
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i would 0/10 recommend using turtle water in place of fish water as it is absolutely not the same thing
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i would 0/10 recommend using turtle water in place of fish water as it is absolutely not the same thing
Well, i spent a short time on google, and although i found no information from any reputable websites on watering plants with turtle tank water specifically, I did find lots of forums where people shared the positive experiences with this.
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i have 2 turtles and when you have a filter on their tanks you don't set it up the same way as a fish filter. they are messy and fuck and you change the water so often you don't worry about ammonia or nitrogen levels. maybe you can have good results but it is not really the same as with a fish tank, since they need to be closely monitored and are a closed environment. maybe someone who owns fish can explain that better
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i have 2 turtles and when you have a filter on their tanks you don't set it up the same way as a fish filter. they are messy and fuck and you change the water so often you don't worry about ammonia or nitrogen levels. maybe you can have good results but it is not really the same as with a fish tank, since they need to be closely monitored and are a closed environment. maybe someone who owns fish can explain that better
I have a friend that has a piranha tank.
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