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Old 12-06-2014, 05:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2nd grow soil problem

Soil I started flowering my first grow yesterday, and my 2nd grow is starting to take off. I'm just now realizingjust how bad the salt build-up in my soil actually is. I've done my best to flush the seedlings and the first grow needs another flush. These are pics from before the flushing:[IMG][/IMG]
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The babies look fine for now. Soil composition, not so much.
No worries. Continue to give the babies water(Preferably not tap water.) and let them grow to about 4 inches tall. Then holding the plant base, flip the cup upside down and gradually shake the plant and soil out. Once it is out, flip the mass up properly and give it a light shake while supporting the stem against breakage.
All the loose dirt will fall off leaving you a root mass with some dirt holding it together. Transplant the roots gently into a more appropriate soil medium.
: All soils will hold salts and eventually build up to the point of nutrient neutralization. An Occasional heavy flush of pure clean water keeps this from happening.
Any tips from the babies leaves that touch the ground should be trimmed off so nothing touches the ground. Otherwise mold and rot can occur.
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let me add how important it is to let your soil dry out slightly and breathe between waterings
Learn to judge the weight of your pots both wet and dry so that you can judge how much water is needed.
Saturated soil is hard on roots and will eventually cause root rot.
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I almost lost that Wonder Woman plant in the middle because I didn't let the soil dry. I was up until 6am flushing soil to prepare it for transplating. Lot of salts, man. I transplanted the Wonder Woman and will post pics as soon as I can. As always, I appreciate the help.
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And always use a fresh soil mix for each grow. There are plenty of great recipes in the Grow FAQ section. But a bag of potting soil for now.
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I like the large pots you are finishing in. The root mass will generally mirror the foliage/branch mass in diameter. The more room the roots have to grow the better able the plant is to absorb the ever increasing need for nutrients. plants in smaller pots get root bound and are restricted in their nutrient uptake and yields a smaller plant and less flowers.
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It seems to me, 'clearly', that your seedlings are looking very 'arid'. In other words, contrary to the prevailing orthodoxy, the plants are not getting enough water and otherwise existing in drought like conditions. That's why they look dehydrated and withering like a prune. The way they look, probably(likely) has nothing to do with 'salt build up' and everything to do with them struggling to get enough moisture at their roots to replace the moisture which is constantly lost through their leaves.

The medium they are growing in looks quite course. Accordingly, when you water them, I'd suggest that the medium retains very little moisture, and most of the water given to them runs out the bottom of the cups(assuming they have drainage holes in the bottom).

Yes, over watering is bad and in a worst case scenario will rot the roots. But under watering will also make the plants suffer, like yours. They won't die through under watering, but they will always look like they are struggling, and they simply won't grow very fast, or as they should. Indeed, owing to the apparent course consistency of the medium they are in, means that over watering would be pretty much impossible, since it would be so 'free draining'. Again, this assumes the pots have holes in their bases through which water will drain.

You would do well endeavoring to water the plants more often...either more often, or just so that the medium becomes moist and remains moisture for most of the day. What you want to aim for, is a nice luscious green in the leaves. When the plants have adequate moisture, they will grow larger leaves...because the plant can support that. Right now, the leaves are small and stunted as a result of lack of moisture. If and when you seek to remedy this easy problem...through watering properly...your plants will become nice and healthy within a few 'days'.

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learning the feel of your plants pot and soil while wet and while dry will enable you to judge if they are getting enough, too much, or not enough. There is a fine line between nutrient deficiency, salt lock ups and not enough water. That's part of the fun of learning how to grow. The knowledge can be passed on but nothing works as well as getting hands on dirty.
Anyways...prune off any yellow leaves(Yellow attracts bugs) and some of the spindly lower branches and fan leaves. Never more than 10 per cent of the total foliage in a pruning or your plant may go into shock for a few days to recover from the damage.
When everything is thinned nicely and watered well you should turn your lights back to 12/12 cycle.

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