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Old 01-25-2015, 10:18 AM   #21 (permalink)
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stoneric, looking forward to some good LED grow reports from you posted in the near future.
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I will do that. I have one ready for the flower room and will have one for the veg room in about 2 weeks. It was perfect timing to switch over.
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Thank you Wirikuta for making me get off my ass and doing a little research, I didn't realize how far LEDs have gone in such a short time. I mean, everyone can't be bullshitting about how good these lites work. Of course if they don't work, I will blame you.
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Just pulled the trigger. Ordered $982.00 worth of LEDs. 1 for veg and 2 for flower. A Mars2 700w(2) and a Mars2 400w. Much cheaper then bigger names but I read good things from growers that use them.

Hi Eric,

I'll still be in Europe for two weeks, plus I have to time surgery and grow, so I don't know exactly when I'll start.

Would you keep me posted as to how your garden is doing?

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How is this?

Does it give off a broad enough spectrum to cover both?

If so, is that ideal?
Isn't the more natural shift in light spectrum suited better for the plant's different stages in growth?


Or can you shift the spectrum on command with the one led setup? something like that?
I think you can change the spectrum.

Thre's a link I provided a few posts back,can't remeber it and I'm in this POS comp that takes forever, scroll up.

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Thank you Wirikuta for making me get off my ass and doing a little research, I didn't realize how far LEDs have gone in such a short time. I mean, everyone can't be bullshitting about how good these lites work. Of course if they don't work, I will blame you.
Would you sue my ass?

Seriously, I was like WTF when I saw that my friend was usnig LEDs, I'd laugh at anyone telling me that if I hadn't seen it for myself.

His LEDs give a reddish/purple soft light... incredible, and under those, a bunch of happy, compact, aromatic buds... OH man!




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Hi Eric,

I'll still be in Europe for two weeks, plus I have to time surgery and grow, so I don't know exactly when I'll start.

Would you keep me posted as to how your garden is doing?

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Be glad to. I was worried about hijacking your thread.
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how much power will your led system draw compared to the hps?
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:10 PM   #30 (permalink)
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how much power will your led system draw compared to the hps?
Around 25% less than HPS. But the LEDs I'm buying for flowering are supposedly equivalent to 600W HPS and I'm only using 400W HPS so that has to be factored in but I'm not that smart. Plus I presently have 3 ballasts and 9 total fans humming. I'll need 4 fans henceforth and adding the nutes I'll save from less waterings, due to significantly less heat from the LEDs, means I'll be saving a shitload of money.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:43 PM   #31 (permalink)
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My LEDs were finally shipped and will arrive on the 4th. I have plants for both veg and flower so I should have a good idea of how they compare to HID by the end of Feb. I also ordered a small 36W LED for the seedling stage, currently I use a small 42W CFL. Total price tag was a little over $1000 for all the lites.
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HPS all day half day er day.
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Been doing HPS for 10 years and they work great. If the LEDs don't work as well I'll go back to HPS. It's a $1000 experiment.
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Old 02-03-2015, 05:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Got the LEDs all set up. They really run cool and they look quite different compared to HPS. I'm going to put a plant in the flower room tomorrow. I usually have some good bud sites within 2 weeks with HPS so I'll be able to compare that with the LEDs.
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:01 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Mars II LED grow lights. I keep trying to get their homepage and I keep getting one of the lites I bought. Anyway, they're cheap Chinese shit but I'm told the brand names are just re-branded cheap Chinese shit. The brand names would have cost me $2,500.00 and I still wouldn't have known if they would work. The ones I got are the Mars II 400W for veg and 2 Mars II 700W for flower. They seem to be well built.
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:11 PM   #37 (permalink)
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One week in and plants are flourishing. Very excited.
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LED's are definitely the way of the future, and the newest user tunable spectrum & intensity versions are pretty amazing in terms of PAR output, intensity, and penetration. The only sucky part is their price. 60-80,000 hour useful life, and the newer control electronics that automatically compensate for failed diodes certainly help amortize their considerable expense, but I still haven't seen the perfect fixture. They are getting close though.

Illumitex, has a pretty sweet tunable/selectable spectrum control, along with user adjustable coverage patterns. Their fixtures are actually waterproof, so damp locations or over spray concerns are less of an issue. The issue with their slick package is heat. They use passive heat dispersion (as opposed to the fans that most others use) by heat sink, which of course is why they are also able to make them waterproof, so like I said - nothing yet is perfect. I also don't think they have addressed the missing UV component the way companies like California Light Works does with their hybrid LED/T-8 fixtures.

Illumitex NeoSol 300W LED Plant Grow Light

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/93...-CLWSS440.html

I suppose if money was no object and I wanted to build the ideal, tunable, full spectrum, array I might start with the Illumitex LED fixture and add a couple of vapor proof T-8 fixtures to handle the UV implementation. If I was working with a full height grow room I might just stick with the California system. It seems that the higher tier manufacturers are now working on creating fancier control electronics along with ways of playing with the light wave to help use it more efficiently or with more flexibility.

Aside from the temperature and electrical consumption differences, the PAR intensity at range is certainly a significant factor in evaluating these vs. the older tech.

Regarding the OP's original quest, you can certainly build a 2'x4' bonzai budcicle factory using biaxial CFL's for half what one of the above mentioned fixtures run. It should have no problem keeping a couple well supplied with perpetual meds.

Keep us updated on your latest trials ric.
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8 weeks under LEDs as of yesterday. One in veg and one in flower. Both looking good. So far I see no difference.
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Damn, I meant 2 weeks.
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