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Old 12-16-2015, 06:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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outdoor grower seeks indoor tent advice

Hello!

So I have had several successful outdoor crops under my belt and now that I have the space to do so I would like to get a year round garden going.

I live in a small studio apartment and so keeping this project small and stealthy will be the two most important factors. secondly will be quality and production.


I have done lots of searching and I have found a couple sizes of tents that will work for me the dimensions are as follows:

4' x 2' x 2' or 30'' x 18'' 36''


It looks like these tents are recommended as veg chambers but I am sure they will work my my purposes. I will either be growing autos or have clones vegged at another location.

given the two options I have how would one go about producing the largest possible yield of quality bud in this space.

would it be better to grow a fewer number of larger plants or vice versa?

how many lumen's per square foot should I be aiming for?

i will obviously be using a carbon filter or something to control smells. to be effective at hiding smells in my apartment would I need to have the fan exhaust going directly out the window or does a carbon filter do a good enough job that it can be vented into my suite?

any input is much appreciated. I will surely be posting a grow log once I have a solid plan in place.
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There are a number of factors which come into play for this equation.
What type of lights? how many watts of output?
Type of plant, etc.
For example 5x5 plants in 1 gallon pots under 1000w light turned back when they are small and about 6" of height will give you about 2 feet of growth in 8 weeks. Possibly doable but factor in the pot height, the height of the finished plant (2 -1/2?') and the closeness of the light and how far it hangs below the ceiling of your tent and will it burn the tops.
5 feet is usually considered a bare minimum.
If you use fluorescents or LEDs the height and heat issues are more flexible.
Going with fewer plants and bending them over is also possible but more labour intensive.
A piece of furniture, closet or wardrobe is easier to camouflage or hide in case of unintended emergencies or visitors.
For the small size you list as tent size a small wardrobe closet against a wall would serve better. Find a 3-4 foot wide by 2 foot deep and 5 to 6 foot high wardrobe.
It would allow you to grow 6 - 8 plants in a sea of green scenario pulling out about an Oz. or more per week.
Lined with mylar for reflectivity and a 400w -600 w bulb with a cooling fan, should do the trick
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I just switched to LED's and they are just as good as HID's minus the heat and around 1/3 of the electrical costs. I'm using a Mars2 700W presently. They're about the cheapest out there but they work. The 700W is equal to a 400W HID in my estimation.
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Do you have an estimate on how much per plant is being produced by this led lamp? I used to get about 3/4 of an oz. per 8 plants back in the day when I ran a 400w. Moved to 1oz. a plant when I improved to a sunlux 600w. with mylar and bigger pots I would have improved that yield.
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Do you have an estimate on how much per plant is being produced by this led lamp? I used to get about 3/4 of an oz. per 8 plants back in the day when I ran a 400w. Moved to 1oz. a plant when I improved to a sunlux 600w. with mylar and bigger pots I would have improved that yield.
I grow single plants under one light. I normally get between 5 and 6 ounces per plant with the 700W LED's which is what I got with 400W HPS.
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Im pretty sure you answered this in that other thread, but how much did that LED run you stoneric?
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The 700W was around $375. The 400W for veg was around $280.
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I grow single plants under one light. I normally get between 5 and 6 ounces per plant with the 700W LED's which is what I got with 400W HPS.
Nice! I just completed my 1st grow in a 4x2 tent with 2 300w LEDs and made the mistake of stuffing in 4 plants (Waikiki Queen). It was way too tight and I ended up with 5oz but my yield could have much more with less. Now I'm on my second grow and have 2 plants under each light and just flipped to flower the other day. I have FIMed & LST these and expect a better yield off just these two (Hash Bomb & Amherst Sour Diesel). Plus I have two autos in there but they are almost ready and will be coming out soon so I'm not counting those...
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If you have the time, check out my recent grow here: Please diagnose my plants
I've done it with 3 plants, foot print was roughly 3' x 3' (I didn't have a tent, but rather just enclosed a corner of a bedroom.
My light was a cheap chinese "800W" LED light, that's actually drawing just 140W. That light set me back approx $120.
It took some effort, as you can see in the thread, but I did it on first attempt.
i hope the above numbers help you estimate your needs.
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